Deleverance

[ABMF]

For those who are new to the term, its the casting out of demons. The very first experience I had with the casting out of demons was in my pre-teen years. My behavior had been altered strangely after visiting a friends home and playing a certain video game. MY parents decided to "take me through deliverance" by praying in Jesus name by faith to command the demon that seemingly enter through the game activity, to leave me. It worked. That was the first opening to the area of Ministry that God called my life to. Since then I have seen and had the privilege of ministering deliverance in Jesus name to others with the same with much more dramatically and drastic change for the better. Problems I have seen a/effecting the youth today are the result of the indwelling of evil spirits. I have even prayed for young babies, only months old and seen God touch them, the demon leave and the mom get their normal child restored to them. Much of Jesus Christ's ministry was marked by the casting out of demons, and from the lips of Jesus Christ we know that deliverance is primarily for the "christian". For those who Believe that a Christian can't have a demon, please read the following. Matthew 15.Luke 11.2 Corinthians 7. The very fact that people think that casting out demons is not for believers makes no sense for the fact that unbelievers have no ground for salvation. They are not protected by the blood of Jesus so they have no protection against evil. People argue that The Holy Spirit can't be in with demons. As if Spirits need to occupy space? Demons dwell primarily in the area of manifesting in your flesh. The Holy Spirit will hold the ground of the Heart of the Believer. Its the Believers job to give over the rest of the control to Him. If that means removal of demon spirits then by all means get them out! Drugs, Drinking, Cutting, burning, self abuse, schizophrenia, and many many other clinically named problems can almost always be dealt with by casting out a demon spirit. Or even thousands of them. Do you need deliverance?

 

[maxwel]

Since you're 29 (not a teenager) and this is really a doctrinal issue...
maybe you should ask the mods to move this thread to the Bible Discussion Forum?

If you leave the thread here, then you need to expect a full-out doctrinal debate.

You can't just put highly controversial things in the teen forum, and expect it to go unchallenged.

 

[Ugly]

Since you're 29 (not a teenager) and this is really a doctrinal issue...
maybe you should ask the mods to move this thread to the Bible Discussion Forum?

If you leave the thread here, then you need to expect a full-out doctrinal debate.

You can't just put highly controversial things in the teen forum, and expect it to go unchallenged.

What he said.

 

[ABMF]

Since you're 29 (not a teenager) and this is really a doctrinal issue...
maybe you should ask the mods to move this thread to the Bible Discussion Forum?

If you leave the thread here, then you need to expect a full-out doctrinal debate.

You can't just put highly controversial things in the teen forum, and expect it to go unchallenged.

Doctrinal issue aside. No debating. Religious Spirits like the pharisees Sadducees try to to block the Kingdom of God from coming on peoples lives through deliverance by making it a doctrinal debate issue and tying it up through their doubt and unbelief. This is for those who are seeking genuine help from the problems of today. It worked for my teen and pre-teen years, has worked for countless others. Still works! [h=1]Luke 11:20New King James Version (NKJV)[/h]20 But if I cast out demons with the finger of God, surely the kingdom of God has come upon you. - Jesus

 

[maxwel]

Doctrinal issue aside. No debating. Religious Spirits like the pharisees Sadducees try to to block the Kingdom of God from coming on peoples lives through deliverance by making it a doctrinal debate issue and tying it up through their doubt and unbelief. This is for those who are seeking genuine help from the problems of today. It worked for my teen and pre-teen years, has worked for countless others. Still works! Luke 11:20New King James Version (NKJV)

20 But if I cast out demons with the finger of God, surely the kingdom of God has come upon you. - Jesus

Yeah, well... regardless of your opinion, this is a public forum, and here we are debating.

People will scrutinize and debate your doctrines as much or as little as they like...
because this is a public forum.

 

[ABMF]

Yeah, well... regardless of your opinion, this is a public forum, and here we are debating.

People will scrutinize and debate your doctrines as much or as little as they like...
because this is a public forum.

Do you need deliverance?

 

[Ugly]

Yeah, you can use big letters and bold letters all you want, but anyone who has the ability to respond has the right to disagree with you. Typing it in big bold letters won't make it magically stop. If you are wanting to insist that people only listen and not be given a chance to disagree because you're right and everyone who disagrees is wrong, then you may be better served going to a site making and blogs with responses turned off.
Though, i find it funny that people who disagree with you, will also make the same claims that you do about others interfering.

And, in reality, as stated above, this isn't really an appropriate thread for the teen section. But i'm going to assume by your tone already that you could care less because you're always right.

Though i do believe in casting out demons, i do not believe running around thinking every problem is a deliverance issue. This Bob Larson mentality holds no scriptural basis. Christ did not run around casting demons out of everyone who has a problem.
From what i've seen this whole deliverance ministry concept actually fuels the idea that people are not accountable for their own behavior. It's as easy as 'oh well, yeah, i did get drunk, but it's not my fault, i'm possessed again'. A complete lack of personal accountability. And that Christians continually get possessed over and over and over and over... i don't see that happening either. This concept puts possession on a casual level that would basically mean people become possessed against their will. That it is not anything they do, but is something done to them, yet another example of a lack of accountability.

I would consider coming back and reading your reply, but, well, you don't want to argue. So i see no need to return.

 

[damombomb]

To op, can you explain about the video games and spirits? What games are they? Thanks

 

[Angela53510]

I think it is shameful to prey upon teenagers with this nonsense deliverance (please note correct spelling for the future!)

God is in control. Babies are NOT demon possessed. This is fear mongering to the highest degree.

My God is greater than all the demons and Satan combined!

Much of Jesus Christ's ministry was marked by compassion, healing and love. Not hyped up insanity like in the OP.

Please cease and desist from this unscriptural garbage.

I suggest you read the NT, and mark down every incident where Jesus acted with kindness, performed a sign or miracle, and demons were not involved. You will probably get worn out just trying to keep track!

 

[Oncefallen]

Moved here from the Teens Forum

 

[ColinCat]

If you believe that playing a video game had caused demons to enter you then you need to seek some sort of psychiatric help. Your also a danger to others if your going into teen forums with this nonsense.

 

[Yeraza_Bats]

Though there are demons who walk the earth, and they do attack people, a video game had nothing to do with that. Demons are already on the earth, searching for people to devour. I know for a fact that people can be attacked by a demon, I dunno about actual possession though, from my own life experience, and the testimony of many others who went through what I went through, demonic attacks are usually far from physical. Though some physical contact happens in small amounts, ie being choked or pressed down or ect, it usually comes as hearing voices, being put through anxiety and despair, nightmares, and stuff like that. Paul wrote about this, he pleaded to God for it to stop, but was told it was Gods will, that Paul being attacked served a purpose. I dont know how far I believe in the idea of people casting them out, obviously I believed that there was a time when they could actually attack and control the body and they were cast out, but just being oppressed by one, that generally stops when the person comes to Christ, and the demon attacking them eventually goes off to find another person to destroy, because said person sought Christ and endured in faith.




Telling people that videogames will cause them to be possessed isnt really biblical, its only a collection of data used to interact with on a screen, it has no power. People are attacked because God lets it happen in order to test your faith and push you towards Him, we should not tell people to fear fallen angels but to believe that God will carry you through anything. And your OP is sorta vague. What was the point?

 

[Yeraza_Bats]

*not that Im like defending the righteousness of videogames or anything. I dont actually believe they are in anyway Gods will. (Not that Im preaching, I actually do play them myself, but still, they clearly are not of God) But people are not attacked because they played a game. Everyone is guilty of sin, my point is that when God allows this to happen, its more along the lines of "trail by fire" and not to punish people for playing videogames. Videogames are only videogames, their power is limited to influence alone.

 

[prodigal]

https://bible.org/seriespage/survey-bible-doctrine-angels-satan-demons

a good link on the subject, and no a christian cannot be demon possessed, there seems to be a certain group of thinkers that have added Christianity to another philosophy to the extent that children have been killed in the uk because the parents believed there was a demon in their child.

[h=1]1 Corinthians 7:141599 Geneva Bible (GNV)[/h] [SUP]14 [/SUP][SUP][a][/SUP]For the unbelieving husband is [SUP][b][/SUP]sanctified to the [SUP][c][/SUP]wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified to the [SUP][d][/SUP]husband, else were your children unclean: but now are they [SUP][e][/SUP]holy.

 

[ABMF]

To op, can you explain about the video games and spirits? What games are they? Thanks

My personal experience in deliverance has been with games by console type/make. Please don't take this and set it up as a doctrine, but for example most recent Xbox modern warfare. Each game should be weighed in the light of Gods word. If it doesn't line up with the principles given then it has the potential to open the door to invasion by demons.

 

[DesiredHaven]

Do demons fly out of the xbox thingy?

 

[Ugly]

Do demons fly out of the xbox thingy?

I don't know what's funnier, the general idea of demons flying out of an xbox, or the term 'xbox thingy'. hahahaha

 

[ColinCat]

I don't know what's funnier, the general idea of demons flying out of an xbox, or the term 'xbox thingy'. hahahaha

Yeah its happening a lot more since the recent update.

 

[DesiredHaven]

I don't know what's funnier, the general idea of demons flying out of an xbox, or the term 'xbox thingy'. hahahaha

Oh yeah lol sorry. My husband has one of those xbox things thats why I ask, I dont know what it is called is why I called it "a thingy". Its in my house so should I smash my husbands x box?

I mean wheres the demons at in the xbox?

Like how do they come out of there?

 

[prodigal]

a generation back its was heavy metal music, go further back and piano's were evil. now i agree everything can have a positive or negative influence which varies per individual. but at the same time we know the main tool of the enemy is fear, and we have to be careful where to draw the line, for none of us would want to be used by the enemy to promote fear,