A POLISH JEWISH CHRISTIAN IN ISRAEL
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2 Timothy 3:12,13
12Indeed, all who desire to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted, 13while evil people and impostors will go on from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived.
From my dad's side we are descendants of a loooong line of Polish Jews> turned Roman Catholic centuries later after getting out of Poland and coming to America by boat from Germany to Ellis island in the mid-late 1800's.
When i was saved by grace after the night i almost gave up on life...... i told my dad what had happened, that i woke up dancing knowing my sins were forgiven and that God is alive and Christ saves sinners. During a conversation with him a few months later he asked if i was still Catholic i told him no they rejected my testimony and told me it's not enough to be Christian you have to be Catholic. My dad's response.......?"YOU DON'T GO TO THE HOUSE OF THE LORD"?, the Spirit
moved me to tell him "YOU CAN'T PUT GOD IN A HOUSE MADE WITH WOOD AND STONE" He "disowned" me then and even to this day. My point is i can totally agree with the quoted statement of William Hendriksen about the newly converted Christian women who had moved in to Israel in the 50's. Pretty sure most of the apostles, brother Paul,the disciples, and a lot of other Hebrews experienced the same thing. We always have, it seems tradition is a pretty strong grip especially with people of Hebrew decent. Search the scriptures and you will find this same scenario played out time and time again. The way i see it....... it's like Joseph's dream with the haystacks bowing to his haystack.......one day they will be ashamed for hating us without a cause.
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Christians always will be persecuted - if we are not we are not Christs ! ( John 15:20-21) Christians are in tribulation now (aka Millennium ) and always will be until Christs returns .
p.s. to all those premillers, the 1000 years in Rev 20 are not literal . Thus far the Millenium is around 2000 years old and counting .
Now is the day of salvation 2 Corinthians 6:2 . This "day" is thus far around 2000 years old and counting. Pray for Salvation today if you are alien to it
p.s. to all those premillers, the 1000 years in Rev 20 are not literal . Thus far the Millenium is around 2000 years old and counting .
Now is the day of salvation 2 Corinthians 6:2 . This "day" is thus far around 2000 years old and counting. Pray for Salvation today if you are alien to it
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Thank you for your personal witness. Whether you realize it or not, this statement is an encouragement to those who believe in our Savior more than they believe in their religion. This is the meaning of Jesus saying, "Simon, do you love Me more than these?" It was through religion that Peter's love of the temple was greater than His love of Christ. But Peter did not know that until Jesus allowed him to go through the experience of the possibility of rejection. Jesus even foresaw what would take place. Peter couldn't see it until he went through the very TRAP (for loss of a better word) that would reveal the things which seemed right to him. Peter wasn't alone; all the disciples (even to this day) agreed with him, that even if all others were made to deny Jesus, yet he would not be made to stumble. This parable language is quite an eye opener, because most christian religions teach that we should not be like Peter; Even after Jesus said All will be made to stumble because of Him. It will become necessary to lay all the teachings of Peter's denial side by side to see what Peter saw; and then afterword when Jesus used the word love (not pride) to show that we can be deceived even in the one thing we trust most about ourselves. So, I'll say to you dear friend in Christ, now is the evidence necessary for you to go fishing in the streets; because a person who does not believe more in the religion, will not be acceptable by that religion. Those who fear rejection from religions are in need of acceptance in Christ.
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we are not in tribulation now.
Jesus said the great tribulation (aka time of jacobs trouble) will be more sever than any this world has ever seen
ie, it will make ww1 and ww2 (the most sever warefar and tribulation in the history of mankind) look like a day in the park.
as for the op.
christians will suffer whether they are in Israel or in the united states, that person is not more special because she suffers in israel, if anything, she will be rewarded in heaven for her suffering like we all will.
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I suffer tribulation/chastening/and hate from others
But I am not in the great tribulation of Matt 24. That has not occured yet. as your claiming it has.
A huge difference between suffering tribulation, and experiencing the great tribulation which is so sever, God has to step in and put a stop to it, or no flesh would survive.
You think this is that? Your not helping people who will suffer that, God said to be prepared. They need all the preperation they can get, because what they will suffer will be nothing we can even fathom. or comprehend.
But I am not in the great tribulation of Matt 24. That has not occured yet. as your claiming it has.
A huge difference between suffering tribulation, and experiencing the great tribulation which is so sever, God has to step in and put a stop to it, or no flesh would survive.
You think this is that? Your not helping people who will suffer that, God said to be prepared. They need all the preperation they can get, because what they will suffer will be nothing we can even fathom. or comprehend.
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I am amazed at you PEM, You just showed your true fruit.
You have been in the pentecostle thread correctly exposing a fraud, who used an issue to promote his false works based ideology.
Yet here you are doing the exact same thing he did by using a story which would be correct of anyone whever they live, as a side step to promote your amil theology
Talk about hypocrisy!
You have been in the pentecostle thread correctly exposing a fraud, who used an issue to promote his false works based ideology.
Yet here you are doing the exact same thing he did by using a story which would be correct of anyone whever they live, as a side step to promote your amil theology
Talk about hypocrisy!
I agree....in 1990 I moved so I could get my life right and not have all of the (temptations) that were around me where I had grown up.....I wrote a letter explaining what I was doing, why I was doing it and witnessed in the letter....I then passed it out to every person I could find that I had come in contact with and who I had (partied) with...I.E. so called friends.....THEY all dropped me like a hot rock, began to belittle me and would not have anything to do with me....all except one who I witnessed to over the years...He shot himself about 4 years ago........seems like many will cut us off when we trust the Lord and make a stand on truth...........
Like the Lord said...we gain a 100 fold...moms, brothers, sisters, grandmas ect. and ONE FATHER
Like the Lord said...we gain a 100 fold...moms, brothers, sisters, grandmas ect. and ONE FATHER