Christian Baptism explained simply The Meaning of Baptism
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Your link erroneously says "Baptizein Does Not Mean Immerse"
Acts 8:38 "And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him."
Phillip immersed the eunuch in water.
Rom 6:4 "Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death...'
Col 2:12 "Buried with him in baptism..."
Water baptism involves a burial, complete immersion, overwhelming.
Acts 8:38 "And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him."
Phillip immersed the eunuch in water.
Rom 6:4 "Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death...'
Col 2:12 "Buried with him in baptism..."
Water baptism involves a burial, complete immersion, overwhelming.
I am not wrong - you clearly dont understand or study this subject or you would not utter such nonsense . The Baptist sect is only around 500 years old . Any ideas why it was not heard for 1500 years ? Answer ? because its just another man-made doctrine . Thats why there are no decent Baptist Theologians ( John Gill excepted ).
I can see you dont read much (if at all) so here is a little sound-bite for you THE MEANING AND MODE OF BAPTISM by Jay E. Adams, BAPTIZO, Infant Baptism, Sprinkling or Immersion? | SermonAudio.com
I can see you dont read much (if at all) so here is a little sound-bite for you THE MEANING AND MODE OF BAPTISM by Jay E. Adams, BAPTIZO, Infant Baptism, Sprinkling or Immersion? | SermonAudio.com
In the days of Noah the World was destroyed by total Immersion . Noah and his family escaped and were sprinkled from above........................
That was a joke ! Regardless, if anyone searches the truth of the meaning, method, mode and subjects of Christian Baptism, he will find that biblical baptisims or cleansings were always by pouring or sprinkling .........
Christian Baptism replaces Circumcision . It is a sign and symbol of the Covenant - nothing more - nothing less.
That was a joke ! Regardless, if anyone searches the truth of the meaning, method, mode and subjects of Christian Baptism, he will find that biblical baptisims or cleansings were always by pouring or sprinkling .........
Christian Baptism replaces Circumcision . It is a sign and symbol of the Covenant - nothing more - nothing less.
21 ¶ The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
( of course you need the holy spirit ..rom 8 v 9 )
1Co 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Col 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
full immersed ( you dont bury someone by sprinkling a bit of dirt over them...fully under...! )
etc acts 10v47-48...acts 18v8..romans 6v 1-6..many more...
( of course you need the holy spirit ..rom 8 v 9 )
1Co 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Col 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
full immersed ( you dont bury someone by sprinkling a bit of dirt over them...fully under...! )
etc acts 10v47-48...acts 18v8..romans 6v 1-6..many more...
sorry op, you've been deceived. completely.
all of the Jews and gentile believers always knew, always, that baptism was always immersion in living waters -
it never is in stale dead water nor in sprinkles as introduced by hasatan(the devil) in the rcc heresy with constantine and the popes.
arguing against this here especially is like arguing that we don't need oxygen to live.
so go ahead, we know you will anyway.
and no one can change your mind, even though He rose from the dead to save you.
all of the Jews and gentile believers always knew, always, that baptism was always immersion in living waters -
it never is in stale dead water nor in sprinkles as introduced by hasatan(the devil) in the rcc heresy with constantine and the popes.
arguing against this here especially is like arguing that we don't need oxygen to live.
so go ahead, we know you will anyway.
and no one can change your mind, even though He rose from the dead to save you.
The only baptism that saves is the Holy Spirit baptism. The Holy Spirit Christ breathed on the disciples in the upper room. John 20 Eph 2 tells us that we are quickened, made alive, by the Holy Spirit who were dead in trespasses and sin.
To impute saving power to water is just short of lunacy. It is Spiritual not physical. Not earthly but heavenly. Grace and not water stale or fresh water no water baptism saves.
You make clean the outside of the cup but the inside remains vile and contaminated, disgusting.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
To impute saving power to water is just short of lunacy. It is Spiritual not physical. Not earthly but heavenly. Grace and not water stale or fresh water no water baptism saves.
You make clean the outside of the cup but the inside remains vile and contaminated, disgusting.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
The Meaning of the Greek Word Baptizo
The word baptize is from the Greek word baptizo. The following excerpts from various lexicons give us the meaning of this word.
1. Bagster’s Lexicon, baptizo: to dip, immerse.
2. Bass’ Lexicon, baptizo: to dip, immerse, or plunge in water.
3. Bloomfield’s Lexicon, baptizo: to immerse, or sink anything in water, or other liquid.
4. Bretschneider’s Lexicon, baptizo: to immerse into water, to submerge.
5. Bullinger’s Lexicon, baptizo: to immerse for a religious purpose.
6. Constantine’s Lexicon, baptizo: immerse, plunge, dip.
7. Cremer’s Lexicon, baptizo: immerse, submerge.
8. Dawson’s Lexicon, baptizo: to dip or immerse in water.
9. Dunbar’s Lexicon, baptizo: to dip, immerse, submerge, plunge, sink, overwhelm.
10. Green’s Lexicon, baptizo: to dip, immerse, to cleanse or purify by washing.
11. Greenfield’s Lexicon, baptizo: to immerse, immerge, submerge, sink.
12. Grimm’s Lexicon, baptizo: to cleanse by dipping or submerging, to wash, to make clean with water.
13. Groves’ Lexicon, baptizo: to dip, immerse, immerge, plunge, to wash.
14. Hedericus’ Lexicon, baptizo: plunge, immerse, cover with water.
15. Jones’ Lexicon, baptizo: I plunge-plunge in water, dip.
16. Leigh’s Lexicon, baptizo: the native and proper signification of it is to dip into water, or to plunge under water.
17. Liddell and Scott’s Lexicon, baptizo: to dip in or under water.
18. Maltby’s Lexicon, baptizo: immergo, to plunge, to immerse.
19. Parkhust’s Lexicon, baptizo: to dip, immerge, or plunge in water.
20. Pickering’s Lexicon, baptizo: to dip, to dip under, to plunge, to steep, dye, or color.
21. Robinson’s Lexicon, baptizo: to immerse, to sink.
22. Robson’s Lexicon, baptizo: to dip in, immerse, to tinge, dye.
23. Scapula’s Lexicon, baptizo: to dip, to immerse.
24. Schleusner’s Lexicon, baptizo: properly, to immerse, to dip in, to dip into water.
25. Schrevelius’ Lexicon, baptizo: to baptize, dip, immerse, wash, cleanse.
26. Sophocles’ Lexicon, baptizo: to dip, to immerse, to sink.
27. Stephanus’ Lexicon, baptizo: plunge, immerse, likewise dip which is done by plunging.
28. Stockius’ Lexicon, baptizo: generally and by force of the word it has the notion of dipping in and of immersing.
29. Thayer’s Lexicon, baptizo: to dip repeatedly, to immerge, submerge. To cleanse by dipping or submerging, to make clean with water.
30. Wright’s Lexicon, baptizo: dip, immerse, plunge, saturate, baptize, humble, overwhelm.
Sprinkling, Pouring, or Immersion
When proper exegesis is applied to the bible, then one can understand that 'baptize' is a literal immersion in water as in Eph 4;5
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The washing of the water of The Word is always good to be filled with...ond overflowing with (which would also be immersed). Jesus showed the importance of this by public baptism...then immediately to the solitude of the woods to be with God only for 40 days. It seems the mainstream church has missed the last part. I wonder how many in this country have even done 3-7 days of fasting in the woods with other people? I am sure the number is probably lower for those who went out with God alone. Again...remember...Jesus did that right after the public baptism...
I guess the church is too busy with their own work to practice and support such? Probably has to do with their own time and their own money.
I guess the church is too busy with their own work to practice and support such? Probably has to do with their own time and their own money.
Baptizo=DIP, IMMSERE and Originally tied to a ship sinking UNDER the water....
Rantizo=Sprinkling and not used with biblical IMMERSION
When someone gets buried in the ground or tomb they ARE COMPLETELY COVERED with dirt or STONE...we do not bury somebody by sprinkling a little dirt on them while they are on top the ground......!
Immersion is a picture of what has already taken place inwardly by faith..it is the public testimony of inward faith and belief into the resurrection of Christ while stating to the world that the old man is dead and you have been raised a new creation is Christ Jesus.....LIKE FIGURE<----KEY WORDS....ALL I AM SAYING on this matter.....for those who wish to add water...good luck with your additions....!
Jesus was already the Son of God before his immersion
OT Pictures...
Children of Israel brought out of Egypt by FAITH and the striking of the BLOOD<--when I SEE the blood I WILL pass over you...no water till almost a year later at the crossing of the REED SEA....
Children of Israel (2nd Generation) delivered from the wilderness of SIN<----Looked to the BRAZEN serpent lifted and were healed<--picture of Christ...NO WATER till later at Crossing of JORDAN
The water is an identifier...and disassociates us from the past and PUBLICALLY identifies us with the household of faith....
Noah saved by the ARK which was covered with pitch inside and OUT (picture of Christ's blood) The water separated NOAH and his family from the generation that perished...the water KILLED the unbelieving and NOAH and his family NEVER GOT WET.....
O.T. ---->circumcision...identifier of inward faith
N.T. ----> immersion.....identifier of inward faith
Rantizo=Sprinkling and not used with biblical IMMERSION
When someone gets buried in the ground or tomb they ARE COMPLETELY COVERED with dirt or STONE...we do not bury somebody by sprinkling a little dirt on them while they are on top the ground......!
Immersion is a picture of what has already taken place inwardly by faith..it is the public testimony of inward faith and belief into the resurrection of Christ while stating to the world that the old man is dead and you have been raised a new creation is Christ Jesus.....LIKE FIGURE<----KEY WORDS....ALL I AM SAYING on this matter.....for those who wish to add water...good luck with your additions....!
Jesus was already the Son of God before his immersion
OT Pictures...
Children of Israel brought out of Egypt by FAITH and the striking of the BLOOD<--when I SEE the blood I WILL pass over you...no water till almost a year later at the crossing of the REED SEA....
Children of Israel (2nd Generation) delivered from the wilderness of SIN<----Looked to the BRAZEN serpent lifted and were healed<--picture of Christ...NO WATER till later at Crossing of JORDAN
The water is an identifier...and disassociates us from the past and PUBLICALLY identifies us with the household of faith....
Noah saved by the ARK which was covered with pitch inside and OUT (picture of Christ's blood) The water separated NOAH and his family from the generation that perished...the water KILLED the unbelieving and NOAH and his family NEVER GOT WET.....
O.T. ---->circumcision...identifier of inward faith
N.T. ----> immersion.....identifier of inward faith
Baptism by full immersion of saved individuals has been around since the start of Jesus' churches.
For those who believe baptists are only 500 years old:
Consider that the name 'baptist' has been applied to a very large and varied group of christian churches. It could be charismatic baptists, hardshell baptists, seventh day baptists, etc etc..
What do you mean by baptist?
If you really want to find baptists around for longer than 500 years.. you have to look at independent christian churches that maybe didn't even have the name baptist but had very baptist key teachings from the bible.
The Reformation.. isn't the start of baptist churches. True baptists haven't needed to reform their teaching since the start of Jesus' churches.
Simple logic-- if Jesus has promised His churches would be in every generation and the Roman Catholics are no longer it for His churches.. and haven't been for a long time... you are left with the fact that there HAS to be independent christian churches that were seperate from them from them and at the same time they were around.
And I believe they were around before the Roman Catholics got going.
It is their teaching that you will find goes back way beyond 500 years. You can't really trace them directly because 1) They were not recording their own history 2) They were persecuted heavily and millions of them were killed.
They probably didn't have a name like 'Bethel Baptist church' or 'The baptist church of Llanei' but they would have very much the same doctrine.
For those who believe baptists are only 500 years old:
Consider that the name 'baptist' has been applied to a very large and varied group of christian churches. It could be charismatic baptists, hardshell baptists, seventh day baptists, etc etc..
What do you mean by baptist?
If you really want to find baptists around for longer than 500 years.. you have to look at independent christian churches that maybe didn't even have the name baptist but had very baptist key teachings from the bible.
The Reformation.. isn't the start of baptist churches. True baptists haven't needed to reform their teaching since the start of Jesus' churches.
Simple logic-- if Jesus has promised His churches would be in every generation and the Roman Catholics are no longer it for His churches.. and haven't been for a long time... you are left with the fact that there HAS to be independent christian churches that were seperate from them from them and at the same time they were around.
And I believe they were around before the Roman Catholics got going.
It is their teaching that you will find goes back way beyond 500 years. You can't really trace them directly because 1) They were not recording their own history 2) They were persecuted heavily and millions of them were killed.
They probably didn't have a name like 'Bethel Baptist church' or 'The baptist church of Llanei' but they would have very much the same doctrine.
Hi oldhermit. I fear tis you and all Baptists (both calvinistic and arminian) are against scripture, church history and othodox reformed beliefs and creeds . Your views are but 500 years old and man-made doctrines. Try this Westminster Confession of Faith to help in your education .
If you still think Jay Adams is a fool Institute for Nouthetic Studies | Biblical Counseling - Home then you are an enemy of the Gospel
If you still think Jay Adams is a fool Institute for Nouthetic Studies | Biblical Counseling - Home then you are an enemy of the Gospel
The only thing I am interested in is what the text itself says about the subject. I am not Baptist nor do I have any regard for Church History, that is not the standard for truth. Truth resided exclusively within the grammatical structure of the Bible and no where else. I do not care what others have to say about baptism. I care only about what the text has to say about it.