the cross is good enough!

godskidisfree · Mar 20, 2015

Brothers and sisters JESUS said all you need is faith of a mustard seed. JESUS also said as he hung on the cross that it was finished. Brothers and sisters the enemy tries to tell everyone that you are not good enough or that in the past you were so bad that your beyond repair or your life is to dirty for GOD to work with and has Christians arguing over words and different laws. The enemy is against GOD and his most precious creation all of us humans. Our enemy deceives us all and tells us we can not be of GOD or be with GOD but the GOSPEL and holy scriptures say otherwise. I read that were all new creations through JESUS CHRIST and what he did on the cross. The cross is totally good enough and were new creations. The enemy knows who we are thru JESUS CHRIST better than we do it seems sometimes. The enemy knows the authority and power we have through Jesus and is scared and knows he has lost and we have the victory.

dcontroversal · Mar 20, 2015

Amen.....Paul said that if he was going to glory he would glory in the cross of Christ...not works, water, church membership, gifts and any other jump through the hoops tradition.....!

godskidisfree · Mar 20, 2015

romans 14 talks about the weak and the strong. Paul I believe it is, says accept the one whose faith is weak without quarreling over disputable matters. One persons faith allows them to eat anything, but another, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. the one who eats everything must not treat with contempt the one who does not, and the one who does not eat everything must not judge the one who does, for GOD has accepted them. the Bible says the word is our food. I believe Paul is also speaking about words and traditions of man.

Jeff_56 · Mar 21, 2015

Jesus cursed those who put the traditions of men over the Word of God. He still does.
the rcc, for example, is demonic, and destroys souls. it is actively and very opposed to Jesus and
to everyone who wants to be alive in Him.

Yahweh condemned the heresy before the creation of the world. He knew all about it. and He condemned it -- it was NEVER acceptable to Him, and NEVER will be.

only those who renounce it and leave it might be saved. those who trust it, remain condemned.

JaumeJ · Mar 21, 2015

The cross is definitely "good enough," so we pick up OUR cross daily and follow Jesus. We do not stop at His crucifixion.

mailmandan · Mar 21, 2015

dcontroversal said:

Amen brother! Not according to our works but according to Jesus --- His ALL-sufficient finished work of redemption. Sufficient and complete. Nothing more to be added to what Jesus did.

psychomom · Mar 21, 2015

this thread title has to be The masterpiece of understatement.

oldthennew · Mar 21, 2015

JaumeJ said:

The cross is definitely "good enough," so we pick up OUR cross daily and follow Jesus. We do not stop at His crucifixion.[/QUOTE
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Amen, Brother JaumeJ,

we must always be aware that the evil one rails through many
who wear many masks, they are bold and ruthless and clever,
and they will collect many believers.

we daily have to remember to draw close to the Source of Life's Spring,
and bind His Words to our foreheads and to our hearts.

mailmandan · Mar 22, 2015

The cross is not good enough for those who trust in works for salvation and add their works as a supplement to the cross in order to help Christ save them, as if Christ is an insufficient Savior Who needs our help.

JaumeJ · Mar 22, 2015

You are absolutely correct about one thing, works will not save a soul.

People who say those who believe in good works after salvation are attempting
in any manner to earn salvation are wrong, hands down.

As we are taught by our very Savior, Jesus Christ, we are not to show up as
invited wedding guests without the proper attire, that is clothes. Throughout the Word and in this particular parable the unfit
attire of the one wedding guest was cause for him to be thrown out into theouter
darkness.

We must all work to have the proper attire for teh Great Wedding to cme if we are invited.

No one is qualified to accuse a brother who believes in good works after salvation as being
someone attempting to earn salvation, this is a falsehood, a misconception, and anhy
who believe works are unnecessary should study the Word more with prayer.

So many people are coming to thie forum calling any who believe in good works
wrong and uninformed when they do and believe in doing good works. They are our attire for the Wedding to
come.

I am invited, are you? Let us get to work. Praise Jesus Christ, amen.

mailmandan said:

psalm6819 · Mar 22, 2015

The cross was not a tragedy-it was the greatest victory ever!!! Planned from the foundation of the earth. Noone took Jesus life-He gave it willingly!!! It is a triumph-but not free. The cost-Jesus, the most perfect and precious SON, all that is bright and beautiful, purity and integrity, held on that cross because He loved us. Thank You LORD. Yes, the cross is enough it is overpayment for we do not realize fully the price paid. I am not motivated to obediance because of fear but because I love Him-much has been forgiven.

mailmandan · Mar 23, 2015

JaumeJ said:

Amen! We are saved by grace through faith, not works (Ephesians 2:8,9).

Believe in them to what purpose? Certain people believe that their works help "maintain" their salvation. If we believe that works either attain and or maintain our salvation, then we are attempting to earn salvation, at least in part. Either Christ did it all or else we did some of it. We can't have it both ways.

What do you believe the proper attire is and how do we get this proper attire? Is this attire something that we work for and earn or receive as a free gift through faith? (Romans 4:4-6; 6:23; Philippians 3:9). We will be found either clothed in our own filthy rags of righteous or in the righteousness of Christ.

Exactly how do we work for this proper attire? First you said that works will not save a soul and now you are saying that we must work to have the proper attire for the Great Wedding to come. Sounds like a contradiction.

What do you mean by "believes in good works after salvation?"

Now you are saying that good works are our wedding attire that grant us eternal life?

All are invited. Many are called, but few are chosen. The invitations to the wedding feast went out to many, representative of everyone to whom the gospel message is sent. But few of those who heard the call were willing to accept it and thereby be among the chosen. The proper wedding garment of a true believer is God-imputed righteousness, without which no one can enter or live in the kingdom. Let us get to work because we are saved, not to become saved. We are saved FOR good works and not by good works (Ephesians 2:8-10).

JaumeJ · Mar 23, 2015

When we are saved, and we are saved only by Jesus Christ on the Cross, we are to pick up our cross and follow His Example.
As the Wörd teaches, the Blood is the Life, therfore our lives are the life of Jesus, for we are no longer our own. If anyone saved
has any gratitude whatsoever, he will honor His Savior by being as much like Him as possible, following His Example.

No person who is saved by this great sacrifice is going to do nothing in gratitude, that idea is of the enemy.

I believe many think that works, good works, are done to show how good a person is. NOT! We, as reborn to new life, do good works out of our insufficient gratitude to the Father for giving us all His Son.

If anyone thinks "the cross is enough" means sitting on your backside with no demonstration of genuine appreciation, and doing whatever comes into the mind, that person does not know our blesse Savior.

I have a robe, you have a robe, cleansed by the Blood (Life) of Jesus Christ. We belong to His life now, so live HIs life. We make up the components of His Body remaining in this age, and it is our due to derve God in Spirit and truth, and this calls for good works.

If any believe obedience is wrong, then be disobedient, but this is not of the Life of Christ, not of His Blood, for in th eBlood is life, never in just saying I am saved. Beliving Jesus is doing, not lip service.

God bless all who are in Jesus Christ and grateful for it, for the only true sacrifice we may offer after Jesus Christ is thanksgiving. amen.

mailmandan · Mar 23, 2015

JaumeJ said:

Amen!

Yes, this is what we are saved FOR.

Yes, follow His example out of gratitude and love for the Lord.

I'm saved yet there has been no change in me at all and I do absolutely nothing for the Lord is an OXYMORON.

Love and gratitude is the right motivation and certainly not pride and expectation of receiving eternal life based on our works.

To know the Lord is to have a relationship with Him (John 17:3). So sitting on our backside and simply doing whatever we want with no remorse, no repentance, just bring on the sin does not describe a relationship with the Lord.

Yes, we are created in Christ Jesus unto good works that we should walk in them - Ephesians 2:10. In Titus 2:14 - who gave Himself for us, that He might redeem us from every lawless deed and purify for Himself His own special people, zealous for good works.

Obedience is not wrong, yet those who refuse to repent and believe the gospel are not obedient. Believing in Jesus is trusting in Him for salvation and what we do afterwards (good works) is the fruit and demonstrative evidence that we do believe in Jesus and are born of God.

Praise Jesus Christ! Galatians 6:14 But God forbid that I should boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.

seed_time_harvest · Mar 23, 2015

mailmandan said:

It's hard for some to just rest
They feel like they should help out so that GOD would appreciate them more but our works to help GOD just pollutes the finished work of JESUS.

mailmandan · Mar 23, 2015

seed_time_harvest said:

While on the surface the idea of requiring works in addition to faith as the instrumental means by which we receive salvation may sound noble, yet in essence it disqualifies faith. Here's why: We receive eternal salvation by placing our faith (our trust, our reliance) exclusively in Christ Jesus. To say that we must "add our works" to the equation is to say that Christ’s finished work of redemption is insufficient to secure our salvation, and what we really mean then, is that we lack the trust and reliance that He alone can eternally save us. Either we are trusting 100% in Christ to save us or else we are 100% lost.

JaumeJ · Mar 24, 2015

The instant good works are mentioned all who teach to do them are either accused of earning their salvation or it is inferred. Thank you for "approving" of my posting, but you and all know Whose approval counts. He does not got by the votes of His children, but He does lissten to them -

God bless all who are in Jesus Christ. We who love HIm miss Him, and although He has not left us alone, we yearn for His return. We miss Him more than we miss the loss of any loved one here in this age.

godskidisfree · Mar 24, 2015

I am part of a food ministry and I know my works do not save me JESUS already did that on the cross even before I wanted anything to do with him, or before I was even born. Knowing JESUS and his love compels a person to want to help others in love even when there not so nice. By the grace of GOD there goes I, We must go love others as ourselves. GOD commands us to do that and that's works but GOD knows are true heart and him alone only knows.

gotime · Mar 24, 2015

Christ's death and resurrection is everything to me. beginning and end all sufficient and all powerful salvation right there.

JaumeJ · Mar 24, 2015

It is a wonderful work to form part of a food ministry, and I praise Jesus Christ that you are.

What you infer is that people who believe in doing good works after salvation are not doingit for any other reason than to "help" in being saved. People who teach we should do good works and not just talk grae do not think for a New York minute they are saving anything, but they are shining lights for the Lord.

Time and time again, peopl in the forum accuse anyone who points out that one must do good works is attempting to earn salvation. This is either a misunderstanding or a twisting of what has been conveyed.

The same holds true for obedience after salvation. Either we have become children of obedience (Ephesians), or we remain children of disobedience. The latter has nothing to dow with having been saved.

No one is under the law once having received Salvation by the Blood of Jesus Christ, but at the same time no one having received the Blood of the Lamb as propitiation for his sin will be deliberately disobedient. To teach otherwise is totally against the teaching of Jesus Christ.

Hearing God's teachings and doing them according to Jesus Christ is never under the law. Not doing them is lip service from any who say once save by grace they are not required to do anything. This is simply not so.

Blessed are all who hear Jesus Christ, believe Him, and act upon the faith given to each, amen.

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