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Religious. Merriam-webster online says "relating to or manifesting faithful devotion to an acknowledged ultimate reality or deity"
Yeshua's views weren't very radical, since he only reiterated what God had said in the Torah.
The Pharisees, Sadducees, and such might have considered things he said blasphemous, but not radical.
Yeshua's views weren't very radical, since he only reiterated what God had said in the Torah.
The Pharisees, Sadducees, and such might have considered things he said blasphemous, but not radical.
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Yeshua was very radical indeed, at least in the Jewish perspective. When one studies rabbinic views of the Messiah one finds something very interesting. Many ancient rabbis spoke of two Messiahs, one who was the "Son of David" and another who was the "Son of Joseph." Though one can find the sufferings of Messiah attributed to the sufferings of the Davidic Messiah in many rabbinic writings, often a second Messiah is posited, the "Son of Joseph" or "Son of Ephraim," who is the one who suffers while the Davidic Messiah conquers. The rabbis struggled with Biblical portraits of a suffering Messiah, as found in Isaiah 53 and other places, and portraits of a conquering Messiah, also found in the Hebrew Bible. They posited two Messiahs, but could it not also be reasonable to believe there is just one Messiah but two aspects of his mission, a suffering aspect and a conquering aspect?
The eminent scholar Raphael Patai, who "taught Hebrew at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem" and served as Professor of Anthropology at Dropsie University, said this of the two-messiah theory:
"When the death of the Messiah became an established tenet in Talmudic times, this was felt to be irreconcilable with the belief in the Messiah as Redeemer who would usher in the blissful millennium of the Messianic Age. The dilemma was solved by splitting the person of the Messiah in two: one of them, called Messiah ben Joseph, was to raise the armies of Israel against their enemies, and, after many victories and miracles, would fall victim Gog and Magog. The other, Messiah ben David, will come after him (in some legends will bring him back to life, which psychologically hints at the identity of the two), and will lead Israel to the ultimate victory, the triumph, and the Messianic era of bliss."
There is only one Messiah, but there are two comings and two aspects of his ministry. The Messiah came the first time to provide atonement for sin. He is now expanding his kingdom and conquering the Gentiles, not by the sword, but by preaching. Not to mention the countless numbers of Jews that the vial is being removed and are accepting Yeshua as Messiah, as the Scriptures foretold that the Genitals would make jealous, is coming to pass!
The eminent scholar Raphael Patai, who "taught Hebrew at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem" and served as Professor of Anthropology at Dropsie University, said this of the two-messiah theory:
"When the death of the Messiah became an established tenet in Talmudic times, this was felt to be irreconcilable with the belief in the Messiah as Redeemer who would usher in the blissful millennium of the Messianic Age. The dilemma was solved by splitting the person of the Messiah in two: one of them, called Messiah ben Joseph, was to raise the armies of Israel against their enemies, and, after many victories and miracles, would fall victim Gog and Magog. The other, Messiah ben David, will come after him (in some legends will bring him back to life, which psychologically hints at the identity of the two), and will lead Israel to the ultimate victory, the triumph, and the Messianic era of bliss."
There is only one Messiah, but there are two comings and two aspects of his ministry. The Messiah came the first time to provide atonement for sin. He is now expanding his kingdom and conquering the Gentiles, not by the sword, but by preaching. Not to mention the countless numbers of Jews that the vial is being removed and are accepting Yeshua as Messiah, as the Scriptures foretold that the Genitals would make jealous, is coming to pass!
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THAANK YOU! lol if Jesus was religious then why didn't he and the pharisees get along!? gosh.. God bless!
Yeshua was indeed religious. Check out a dictionary sometime, thaey're a great invention
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I told you why. Because the Pharisees followed dead religion, keeping the letter of the law but abandoning love. True and good religion keeps the law in love and with love.
Yeshua was indeed religious. Check out a dictionary sometime, thaey're a great invention
Yeshua was indeed religious. Check out a dictionary sometime, thaey're a great invention
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Very true. Jesus was indeed a rabbi who not only observed but also taught Torah however, from a much deeper spiritual level where the heart must be actively involved in order for it to have any value in the kingdom of God. Yet He also ignored all of the manmade "traditions" that had been created over the years (especially while in exile) such as Pharisees & Saducees and the illegitamate religious order during this time frame.
However, considering much of Christ's ministry revolved around repentance from the heart as atonement of sin and the ressurection of the dead, I would have to say Jesus was viewed as a radical in many ways, especially after performing many miracles.
However, considering much of Christ's ministry revolved around repentance from the heart as atonement of sin and the ressurection of the dead, I would have to say Jesus was viewed as a radical in many ways, especially after performing many miracles.
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The dictionary bit carried very mild sarcasm with it, not the rest though. Christianity IS a religion, as any dictionary will tell you.
So you're able to read the mind of G-d? No, I'm sure he doesn't like it when we pray to him as though he's a lifeless statue, but there is absolutely a place for reverence and fear in our relationship with him. Yes, he's our father and he loves us, and we are able to appear before him in righteousness, but he is a great and terrible, holy and just, all-powerful being, and he holds our lives in his hands. We are right to fear him.
So you're able to read the mind of G-d? No, I'm sure he doesn't like it when we pray to him as though he's a lifeless statue, but there is absolutely a place for reverence and fear in our relationship with him. Yes, he's our father and he loves us, and we are able to appear before him in righteousness, but he is a great and terrible, holy and just, all-powerful being, and he holds our lives in his hands. We are right to fear him.
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You are totally missing what I'm trying to say, I'm sorry if it appears as if I'm saying this.. but religion isn't what He likes being put under.. it does say in the Bible that he tells secrets to those who he has favor with.. I'm not saying I am that one, I am just simply saying it's possible.. He is an incredible and powerful God.. but he is not a statue.. he is also not just a "God" the generation has created. He is Him despite what you say or me.. He is our father(daddy) who LOVES us and all Jesus wants is a relationship with us and for us to walk with him so we can be happy and be strong. Religion has appointed God to being an angry God, HE ISNT JUST A GOD.. He is our daddy! our savior! our friend!!!
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Funnily enough that's not how Jesus instructed us to pray. At all
5"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. 6But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. 7And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him. 9"This, then, is how you should pray:
" 'Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name,
10your kingdom come,
your will be done
on earth as it is in heaven.
11Give us today our daily bread.
12Forgive us our debts,
as we also have forgiven our debtors.
13And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from the evil one.[a]' 14For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. 15But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.
Matthew 6: 1-15
You'll notice that we're still instructed to pray with great reverence. Yes, God is our Father, but He is also the Holy and Awesome Lord of Lords who deserves our awe and fear.
And technically yes, Christianity is a religion, and Jesus was religious. He butted heads with those Pharisees because they weren't just religious, they were twisting religion.
I don't understand this need to reject religion and make it only a relationship. Religion isn't a BAD thing, people!
5"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. 6But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. 7And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him. 9"This, then, is how you should pray:
" 'Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name,
10your kingdom come,
your will be done
on earth as it is in heaven.
11Give us today our daily bread.
12Forgive us our debts,
as we also have forgiven our debtors.
13And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from the evil one.[a]' 14For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. 15But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.
Matthew 6: 1-15
You'll notice that we're still instructed to pray with great reverence. Yes, God is our Father, but He is also the Holy and Awesome Lord of Lords who deserves our awe and fear.
And technically yes, Christianity is a religion, and Jesus was religious. He butted heads with those Pharisees because they weren't just religious, they were twisting religion.
I don't understand this need to reject religion and make it only a relationship. Religion isn't a BAD thing, people!
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