Death Question in Philosophy

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Today in class we were focusing on the meaning of life. Through this I realized many things that kind of disturbed me.

One of the first questions was "How many would be happy to die tomorrow?"

The other question was focused on death bringing depravity or a forever end to our enjoyment (whatever that is).

The first question I didn't understand why no one wanted and the second I didn't understand, what does the world have to offer? Die tomorrow and go to heaven vs anything on earth... Can that even be a question? Wouldn't anyone chose heaven


Is it wrong to think this way or is it normal?

What are your responses to theses questions? :D
 
dcontroversal

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Paul said to die is gain...to live is Christ.....

Paul considered it great gain to die and be with Christ, but he also knew to live would result in Christ being seen through his life...He became all things to all men that he may win some......Paul's goal was to take as many as he could to heaven with him by winning them through the truth.

Eye has not seen nor ear heard the things that God has prepared for those who love him and are called according to his purpose...I am positive that the after life contains many joys and enjoyment for the true believer...not so for the lost!
 
MultilingualMessenger

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They may just be clinging to the world, but anyone who loves his life will lose it. (John 12:25 - Anyone who loves their life will lose it, while anyone who hates their life in this world will keep it for eternal life.) What the world has to offer is "something now", whereas Heaven offers "something much better later". People who cling to the world go for the "now" offering, not realizing or not caring that "later" lasts much longer.

Or maybe they don't believe in Heaven. But Heaven is surely to die for (pun intended).

I think like you on this one.

 
Angela53510

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"How many would be happy to die tomorrow?"

I would be happy to be with Jesus tomorrow, if that is his plan. For the non-Christian, I think dying would be the worst thing that could happen to you.

"what does the world have to offer?"

The world offers us nothing. But we can find joy, walking with Christ and obeying him on this earth. God did put us on this earth for a purpose, and although the purpose has been marred by sin, there are still many reasons to live our lives and find joy. For me, family, serving God make life worth living, and knowing that God did create the earth with his good reasons in mind also help me live in this world.
 
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dcontroversal said:
Paul said to die is gain...to live is Christ.....

Paul considered it great gain to die and be with Christ, but he also knew to live would result in Christ being seen through his life...He became all things to all men that he may win some......Paul's goal was to take as many as he could to heaven with him by winning them through the truth.

Eye has not seen nor ear heard the things that God has prepared for those who love him and are called according to his purpose...I am positive that the after life contains many joys and enjoyment for the true believer...not so for the lost!
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This is very true. Thinking about all the lost people (many who were in the class) is what prevented me from raising my hand on either. That really needs to be the focus, that eternity for the lost isn't joyful.
 
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It brings me joy when I'm at a funeral and it is deemed a celebration of life knowing the person who passed has gone home to Glory. That's reality for those who put their faith in Jesus.
 
maxwel

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Philosophy....

I think the best thing to do in a philosophy class is just tell the teacher what he wants to hear, get your grade, and get out.

If you're going to major in philosophy, then you need to actually sort through all these things, and learn to debate them.
 
secularhermit

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Thoughtful thoughts!

1) ""How many would be happy to die tomorrow?""

This is an awesome question! An honest answer depends on the mood, a situation a person is about and, here and ME today, would say "Yes", particularly if I´m asked about my beliefs, which are not rooted in nationalism (patrioterism) or certain conventionalism I don´t believe in. If I had to be martirized, tortured, I probably would say "No", because hedonism and my own feelings + its selfesteem is somewhat coward, although I used to be brave enough when I was younger to put myself some injections to avoid any contagious desease.
Once a person knows his/her life was beter than others, it´s probable he/she acknowledges that happiness received (I owe it to God, by the way).

2) "...death bringing depravity or a forever end to our enjoyment " I didn´t understand this and, I´m not greatly concerned on this concepts or notions today: I live a day after another. Eternity, for me, is nothing else that a notion and I even don´t understand a single day: If these were simple tests, I know where I´m disapproved (Foggily knowing MY whys)

3)"...What does the world have to offer?"
Heaven and earth are vague, just for me. I know what I can buy here and, if I buy everything, I own less, I would say, being enslaved to those things bought. Heavens or eternity? What are those things? Knowledge? Traveling or seeing this spiritually or differently? I have no clue. Sometimes I think we are (or were) angels set in the prison of our bodies to learn God´s obedience. If that is "correct", I think I could understand Jesus´life better, as a model, as a Prince God made a KING; but I cannot grasp the meaning of heaven or earth, without thinking I fell short without God leading my life style (I wish I could listen to His voice directly, as a family relationship, evenly by emails or phone calls) That time is coming! (Just guessing).
 
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Personally, i cannot wait to be rid of this world, for in my death from this world comes life eternal in the kingdom of heaven.
Those who are afraid for their flesh to die, either have not accepted Christ, or have and really do not understand what it is all about.
God bless
 
Joidevivre

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I'd be happy to die tomorrow.
I'm also happy to continue living here for awhile. These little people keep getting born in my children's lives, and they are so awesome.

It's all good! Can't lose!
 
posthuman

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i am suspicious that your philosophy teacher and i have different working definitions of the word "death"

:rolleyes:​
 
crossnote

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I don't mind going into the next Room, it's just going through the doorway that might be a little sticky.
 
Joidevivre

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crossnote said:
I don't mind going into the next Room, it's just going through the doorway that might be a little sticky.
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Well Crossnote - we've all heard that the way is narrow....:rolleyes:
 
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