All Things Common Ignored by "your church"? Better keep looking for His then.

[Jon4TheCross]

All Things Common Ignored by "your church"? Better keep looking for His then.

If you are going to hate (not seek to follow) this portion of scripture...you might as well confess that you hate Jesus example.

Acts 4:31-33Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

31*And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness.

32*And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common. 33*And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.

Thank God for Him not requiring as much of those who have been given little by the grace of God...cause I believe if we were given much...most would be dead like...

Acts 5:2-5Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

2*and kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles’ feet. 3*But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? 4*Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God. 5*And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things.

However...I believe many are spiritually dead in what we call the "church"...and most actually.

Romans 8:4-6Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

4*that the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

5*For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. 6*For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

I might as well include this next scripture to help you realize if in fact you hate (do not like to follow) all of Jesus.

1 John 3:16-18Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

16*Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren. 17*But whoso hath this world’s good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him?

18*My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.

 

[Jon4TheCross]

Re: All Things Common Ignored by "your church"? Better keep looking for His then.

If anyone is powerless to obtain the knowledge of how to practice all things common in some kind of approved way...I know how in this day and age if you need some help.

 

[dcontroversal]

Re: All Things Common Ignored by "your church"? Better keep looking for His then.

Are you still living in the woods camping.....!

 

[Willie-T]

Re: All Things Common Ignored by "your church"? Better keep looking for His then.

Are you still living in the woods camping.....!

Dunno....... he's getting the 'srooms from SOMEWHERE.

 

[MarcR]

Re: All Things Common Ignored by "your church"? Better keep looking for His then.

If you are going to hate (not seek to follow) this portion of scripture...you might as well confess that you hate Jesus example.

Acts 4:31-33Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

31*And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness.

32*And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common. 33*And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.

Thank God for Him not requiring as much of those who have been given little by the grace of God...cause I believe if we were given much...most would be dead like...

Acts 5:2-5Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

2*and kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles’ feet. 3*But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? 4*Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God. 5*And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things.

However...I believe many are spiritually dead in what we call the "church"...and most actually.

Romans 8:4-6Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

4*that the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

5*For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. 6*For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

I might as well include this next scripture to help you realize if in fact you hate (do not like to follow) all of Jesus.

1 John 3:16-18Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

16*Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren. 17*But whoso hath this world’s good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him?

18*My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.

Jon,

NOT EVERYTHING recorded in Scripture is advocated!

Mt 27:3-5
3 Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders,
4 Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, What is that to us? see thou to that.
5 And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself.
KJV

This of course is not sound practice!

Later in Acts, and in both epistles to the Corinthians, we see that communalism bankrupted and impoverished the Jerusalem church; and that they had to be relieved by offerings from Macedonia and Achia. this suggests that communalism might also be not good practice.

 

[dcontroversal]

Re: All Things Common Ignored by "your church"? Better keep looking for His then.

Dunno....... he's getting the 'srooms from SOMEWHERE.

I live in Mark Twain National Forest off grid and generate my own power and use satellite everything....I have a neighbor that lives like a hermit, about mile and a half away, lives bad, poor, nothing, sleeps in a hole in the ground/tent etc......He told me one day....you know I really like the orange mushrooms that grow on the trees....the only problem is if you eat too many as they make you see stuff....one day he was lucid and in his right mind...paused and looked up and said...you know they came and got me once..I wonder if they will come back and get me again........haven't seen him in about a year!

 

[Jon4TheCross]

Re: All Things Common Ignored by "your church"? Better keep looking for His then.

Nope...at UGM in Spokane, WA...it is a homeless shelter which actually is very close to a true Biblical church.

 

[dcontroversal]

Re: All Things Common Ignored by "your church"? Better keep looking for His then.

Nope...at UGM in Spokane, WA...it is a homeless shelter which actually is very close to a true Biblical church.

Well good Jon......good for you man.

 

[Jon4TheCross]

Re: All Things Common Ignored by "your church"? Better keep looking for His then.

Your responses are typical and do not represent Christ...do you agree?

 

[dcontroversal]

Re: All Things Common Ignored by "your church"? Better keep looking for His then.

Your responses are typical and do not represent Christ...do you agree?

??? who are you talking to Jon

 

[DesiredHaven]

Re: All Things Common Ignored by "your church"? Better keep looking for His then.

You know, I have wondered something myself, and only because I am disabled, was both born with scoliosis in my back but I was also injured in my youth along with other degenerate back/disk/nerve issues (which quite a few here seem to have as well.) I dont have a church to go to myself, if I did when I first moved down here I have wondered if the believers at whichever one I was able to connect with would ever visit me, I cant say though. Like, would these come out (to me) and do it freely without some ulterior motive?

Would they just want my stuff?

And after I gave them all my stuff would they take me into their home?

I highly doubt that for some reason.

Well, you know what I mean, the lame or disabled in Jesus days were fetched and brought near to him by those who actually had faith (carried in and lowered through roofs and all) and His apostles had power.

Nowadays a five minute trip in an air conditioned car might be asking too much, but I dont know.

There will always be those who volunteer to do for others and there will always be those who try to manipulate their stuff from others, like devouring widows houses and preying upon others by always eyeballing peoples possessions.

Which can come off as rather Judas- like but under the pretense of

John 12:5 Why was not this ointment sold for three hundred pence, and given to the poor?

John 12:6 This he said, not that he cared for the poor; but because he was a thief, and had the bag, and bare what was put therein.

 

[Jon4TheCross]

Re: All Things Common Ignored by "your church"? Better keep looking for His then.

Jon,

NOT EVERYTHING recorded in Scripture is advocated!

Mt 27:3-5
3 Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders,
4 Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, What is that to us? see thou to that.
5 And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself.
KJV

This of course is not sound practice!

Later in Acts, and in both epistles to the Corinthians, we see that communalism bankrupted and impoverished the Jerusalem church; and that they had to be relieved by offerings from Macedonia and Achia. this suggests that communalism might also be not good practice.

Revelation 2:4-6Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

4*Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love. 5*Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent. 6*But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate.

Also...we see two and more witnesses of this in scripture... here is another...

2 Corinthians 8:7-9Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

7*Therefore, as ye abound in every thing, in faith, and utterance, and knowledge, and in all diligence, and in your love to us, see that ye abound in this grace also. 8*I speak not by commandment, but by occasion of the forwardness of others, and to prove the sincerity of your love. 9*For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich.

1 Thessalonians 2:13-15Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

13*For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe. 14*For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judæa are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews: 15*who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:

2 Corinthians 12:14-16Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

14*Behold, the third time I am ready to come to you; and I will not be burdensome to you: for I seek not yours, but you: for the children ought not to lay up for the parents, but the parents for the children. 15*And I will very gladly spend and be spent for you; though the more abundantly I love you, the less I be loved. 16*But be it so, I did not burden you: nevertheless, being crafty, I caught you with guile.

 

[Viligant_Warrior]

Re: All Things Common Ignored by "your church"? Better keep looking for His then.

I live in Mark Twain National Forest off grid and generate my own power and use satellite everything....I have a neighbor that lives like a hermit, about mile and a half away, lives bad, poor, nothing, sleeps in a hole in the ground/tent etc......He told me one day....you know I really like the orange mushrooms that grow on the trees....the only problem is if you eat too many as they make you see stuff....one day he was lucid and in his right mind...paused and looked up and said...you know they came and got me once..I wonder if they will come back and get me again........haven't seen him in about a year!

There's the answer to his question.

 

[Jon4TheCross]

Re: All Things Common Ignored by "your church"? Better keep looking for His then.

You know, I have wondered something myself, and only because I am disabled, was both born with scoliosis in my back but I was also injured in my youth along with other degenerate back/disk/nerve issues (which quite a few here seem to have as well.) I dont have a church to go to myself, if I did when I first moved down here I have wondered if the believers at whichever one I was able to connect with would ever visit me, I cant say though. Like, would these come out (to me) and do it freely without some ulterior motive?

Would they just want my stuff?

And after I gave them all my stuff would they take me into their home?

I highly doubt that for some reason.

Well, you know what I mean, the lame or disabled in Jesus days were fetched and brought near to him by those who actually had faith (carried in and lowered through roofs and all) and His apostles had power.

Nowadays a five minute trip in an air conditioned car might be asking too much, but I dont know.

There will always be those who volunteer to do for others and there will always be those who try to manipulate their stuff from others, like devouring widows houses and preying upon others by always eyeballing peoples possessions.

Which can come off as rather Judas- like but under the pretense of

John 12:5 Why was not this ointment sold for three hundred pence, and given to the poor?

John 12:6 This he said, not that he cared for the poor; but because he was a thief, and had the bag, and bare what was put therein.

If you could find a body of believers practicing the kind of real love that God will always testify to...you would most likely be healed. However...God can recieve glory from those in your condition who are more joyful and thankful than those with perfect health and functioning bodies.
I believe you will have a hard time finding a united body of believers who know that they do not need food or water according to the flesh to live...and so poverty is no biggie to them. It is sad...and I pray for us all.

 

[Jon4TheCross]

Re: All Things Common Ignored by "your church"? Better keep looking for His then.

Jon,

NOT EVERYTHING recorded in Scripture is advocated!

Mt 27:3-5
3 Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders,
4 Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, What is that to us? see thou to that.
5 And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself.
KJV

This of course is not sound practice!

Later in Acts, and in both epistles to the Corinthians, we see that communalism bankrupted and impoverished the Jerusalem church; and that they had to be relieved by offerings from Macedonia and Achia. this suggests that communalism might also be not good practice.

I do not even need air to live...much less food and water. The church rejoices in reward in heaven.

 

[Jon4TheCross]

Re: All Things Common Ignored by "your church"? Better keep looking for His then.

Food is the most destructive drug on this earth...in my opinion...because so many abuse it.

 

[DesiredHaven]

Re: All Things Common Ignored by "your church"? Better keep looking for His then.

If you could find a body of believers practicing the kind of real love that God will always testify to...you would most likely be healed. However...God can recieve glory from those in your condition who are more joyful and thankful than those with perfect health and functioning bodies.
I believe you will have a hard time finding a united body of believers who know that they do not need food or water according to the flesh to live...and so poverty is no biggie to them. It is sad...and I pray for us all.

Sounds good on the surface

 

[dcontroversal]

Re: All Things Common Ignored by "your church"? Better keep looking for His then.

I do not even need air to live...much less food and water. The church rejoices in reward in heaven.

Jon........the above statement kind of alleviates any and all creditability......no air ---> ABOUT 3 MINUTES, NO WATER-->THREE TO FIVE DAYS, NO FOOD------> about three weeks or so.......to say you do not need air to live takes the cake bro.....and that is not easy on this site......!

 

[Jon4TheCross]

Re: All Things Common Ignored by "your church"? Better keep looking for His then.

Jon........the above statement kind of alleviates any and all creditability......no air ---> ABOUT 3 MINUTES, NO WATER-->THREE TO FIVE DAYS, NO FOOD------> about three weeks or so.......to say you do not need air to live takes the cake bro.....and that is not easy on this site......!

You may have a hard time believing that moses went 40 without food and water...and Jesus walked on water then?
Romans 8:4-6Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

4*that the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

5*For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. 6*For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

God does not lie...and there is truly only one needful thing (luke 10:38-42)

 

[Jon4TheCross]

Re: All Things Common Ignored by "your church"? Better keep looking for His then.

I might as well paste this one as well... yes..commonwealth is part of Christ.

Ephesians 2:11-13Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

11*Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; 12*that at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: 13*but now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.