Modern Day Stoning

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JESUS(YESHUA) had spoken about AGAPE love through out the Sacred Word and demonstrated AGAPE love towards those who despise him. How are Christians suppose to treat Christians within the faith and those who are unbelievers? I am suppose despise someone who has a different religion, belief system or reject with hostility. I was pondering about the death of Stephen how the Council(wolves) stoned him to death because he was preaching a different GOSPEL of JESUS CHRIST(YESHUA). Is there a mob mentality today in Christianity towards those who are not part of clique? How do Christians treat others who come into this Christian Chat searching for answers of the faith without being suspicious towards individuals who are different? How do Christians today stone others in the Christian faith?

Acts 6 Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)

Stephen Accused of Blasphemy

8 Stephen, full of grace and power, was performing great wonders and signs among the people. 9 Then some from what is called the Freedmen’s Synagogue, composed of both Cyrenians and Alexandrians, and some from Cilicia and Asia, came forward and disputed with Stephen. 10 But they were unable to stand up against his wisdom and the Spirit by whom he was speaking.
11 Then they persuaded some men to say, “We heard him speaking blasphemous words against Moses and God!” 12 They stirred up the people, the elders, and the scribes; so they came, dragged him off, and took him to the Sanhedrin. 13 They also presented false witnesses who said, “This man does not stop speaking blasphemous words against this holy place and the law. 14 For we heard him say that Jesus, this Nazarene, will destroy this place and change the customs that Moses handed down to us.” 15 And all who were sitting in the Sanhedrin looked intently at him and saw that his face was like the face of an angel.

These men were self righteous in their religion beliefs, jealous, envy and heart full of malice. The Great Sanhedrin were plotting, and scheming to entrap Stephen. Is this behavior happening today in the Christian faith with cliques. Head leader who recruits others with same ungodly, devilish, and deceptive spirit to cause schism within the Body Christ. Falsely accusing a believer of the faith because the Holy Spirit is reigning in the believer's life and jealousy is a dangerous within the Body of Christ. Beware of wolves in sheep clothing !


Acts 7 Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)

The First Christian Martyr

54 When they heard these things, they were enraged in their hearts[u] and gnashed their teeth at him. 55 But Stephen, filled by the Holy Spirit, gazed into heaven. He saw God’s glory, with[v] Jesus standing at the right hand of God,and he said, 56 “Look! I see the heavens opened and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God!”
57 Then they screamed at the top of their voices, covered their ears, and together rushed against him. 58 They threw him out of the city and began to stone him. And the witnesses laid their robes at the feet of a young man named Saul. 59 They were stoning Stephen as he called out: “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit!” 60 Then he knelt down and cried out with a loud voice, “Lord, do not charge them with this sin!” And saying this, he fell asleep.

Beware those who murdered Stephen were religious, self righteous men of the Jewish faith. I have learned greatest enemy is within the Body of Christ, those who secretly despise me, but will smile in my face. I believe the separating of the wheat and tares are happening now within the Body of Christ. The Holy Spirit will reveal ones enemies through Discernment. No one weapon form against AuphirahQueen shall prosper because the Sacred Word tells me so.



Isaiah 54 English Standard Version (ESV)


In righteousness you shall be established;
you shall be far from oppression, for you shall not fear;
and from terror, for it shall not come near you.
15 If anyone stirs up strife,
it is not from me;
whoever stirs up strife with you
shall fall because of you.
16 Behold, I have created the smith
who blows the fire of coals
and produces a weapon for its purpose.
I have also created the ravager to destroy;
17 no weapon that is fashioned against you shall succeed,
and you shall refute every tongue that rises against you in judgment.
This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord
and their vindication[e] from me, declares the Lord.”



 
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JESUS(YESHUA) had spoken about AGAPE love through out the Sacred Word and demonstrated AGAPE love towards those who despise him. How are Christians suppose to treat Christians within the faith and those who are unbelievers? I am suppose despise someone who has a different religion, belief system or reject with hostility. I was pondering about the death of Stephen how the Council(wolves) stoned him to death because he was preaching a different GOSPEL of JESUS CHRIST(YESHUA). Is there a mob mentality today in Christianity towards those who are not part of clique? How do Christians treat others who come into this Christian Chat searching for answers of the faith without being suspicious towards individuals who are different? How do Christians today stone others in the Christian faith?

No offence, but Stephen was not preaching (a different) gospel of Jesus.....He was preaching (THE) gospel of Jesus.....and contrary to what some believe.....not every group, church, individual who labels themselves Christian is Christian and or of the truth. There is only one true gospel, not 2, 3 or 50......I know this is hard for those who are ecumenical (not saying you are).....unfortunately many think we should just all get together and love one another and set doctrinal differences aside.....this is far from the truth....two cannot walk together unless they be agreed, the bible teaches love and truth go hand in hand and no where does it say to chunk the truth in favor of loving those who teach heresy while coming together under one banner.....

2nd Corinthians 6..WE then as workers TOGETHER.......what agreement, fellowship, accord does Christ have with Belial, light with darkness, truth with lies, right with wrong etc.........No basis of fellowship.....

This is not to say that we should not witness to them out of a pure motive, pray for them that they come to the truth and or not welcome them in to our worship of God as a guest.
 
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No offence, but Stephen was not preaching (a different) gospel of Jesus.....He was preaching (THE) gospel of Jesus.....and contrary to what some believe.....not every group, church, individual who labels themselves Christian is Christian and or of the truth. There is only one true gospel, not 2, 3 or 50......I know this is hard for those who are ecumenical (not saying you are).....unfortunately many think we should just all get together and love one another and set doctrinal differences aside.....this is far from the truth....two cannot walk together unless they be agreed, the bible teaches love and truth go hand in hand and no where does it say to chunk the truth in favor of loving those who teach heresy while coming together under one banner.....

2nd Corinthians 6..WE then as workers TOGETHER.......what agreement, fellowship, accord does Christ have with Belial, light with darkness, truth with lies, right with wrong etc.........No basis of fellowship.....

This is not to say that we should not witness to them out of a pure motive, pray for them that they come to the truth and or not welcome them in to our worship of God as a guest.
To the Great Sanhedrin that was a New Gospel to them that is what I meant. I do agree with you just word differently. The point is not for Christians to behave as the Great Sanhedrin towards others within the faith.
 
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I have a very old article (back in the '60's) from Charisma Magazine, entitled, Why do Christians Shoot Their Wounded? . It's too long to post here (and is now unavailable in the original text), but if anyone would like to read it, I can send it to you. It was most interesting.
 
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I have a very old article (back in the '60's) from Charisma Magazine, entitled, Why do Christians Shoot Their Wounded? . It's too long to post here (and is now unavailable in the original text), but if anyone would like to read it, I can send it to you. It was most interesting.
This is a book correct because it is up on Amazon? Please send it me. Thank you
 
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Hard to understand what this topic is about but all I can say is We are here to love, encourage, and pray for thoughs who believe different then us and not judge them.
 
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This is a book correct because it is up on Amazon? Please send it me. Thank you
No, I have that book, myself, and frankly, found it quite disappointing.

This is a magazine article. I'll see if I can get it to go through on PM.
 
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It went through. BTW, I mistyped the date... it was 1998.
 
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I know a man who has a son who is a truck driver coast to coast. He is a drunkard and rebellious against the instructions that were given to him as a child. He no longer is welcomed into their house with liquor, or when he is drunk. The separation is permanent accordingly. He has made a choice to not associate with family and for all intents and purposes he is dead and spiritually speaking has been stoned. Pun not intended. In this way the family has put the evil away from them. The actions are stoned and killed not the person if there is true repentance.

Deuteronomy 21:18-21
[SUP]18 [/SUP]If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:
[SUP]19 [/SUP]Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;
[SUP]20 [/SUP]And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.
 
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blue_ladybug

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I have some people I'd like to stone to death.. jk :)

*I did NOT just say that.* :eek:
 
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I know a man who has a son who is a truck driver coast to coast. He is a drunkard and rebellious against the instructions that were given to him as a child. He no longer is welcomed into their house with liquor, or when he is drunk. The separation is permanent accordingly. He has made a choice to not associate with family and for all intents and purposes he is dead and spiritually speaking has been stoned. Pun not intended. In this way the family has put the evil away from them. The actions are stoned and killed not the person if there is true repentance.



Deuteronomy 21:18-21
[SUP]18 [/SUP]If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:
[SUP]19 [/SUP]Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;
[SUP]20 [/SUP]And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.
If this person repent, and return to Kingdom of JESUS. King David was a murdered, whore monger, and ABBA love King David. So will this family open ones arms to a prodigal son who had fallen now is restore through the Holy Spirit and he can be a living testimony to others with addictions. When I read the Holy Scriptures I see a forgiving GOD, so why do churches preach on FORGIVENESS. How many times are we suppose to forgive our brothers and sisters?

Matthew 18 Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)

21 Then Peter came to Him and said, “Lord, how many times could my brother sin against me and I forgive him? As many as seven times?”
22 “I tell you, not as many as seven,” Jesus said to him, “but 70 times seven.[r] 23 For this reason, the kingdom of heaven can be compared to a king who wanted to settle accounts with his slaves. 24 When he began to settle accounts, one who owed 10,000 talents[s] was brought before him.
 
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In John 8.1-11 we find the story of the scribes/pharisees attempting to trap Jesus, by bringing a woman they caught in the act of Adultery. The scribes/pharisees were ready to stone a woman, because they tempting and to accuse Jesus.

How many times in the modern day church do we see the self righteous crowd attempting to tempt and accuse Jesus at the expense of stoning a sinner?
 
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Matthew 18 Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)

21 Then Peter came to Him and said, “Lord, how many times could my brother sin against me and I forgive him? As many as seven times?”
22 “I tell you, not as many as seven,” Jesus said to him, “but 70 times seven.[r] 23 For this reason, the kingdom of heaven can be compared to a king who wanted to settle accounts with his slaves. 24 When he began to settle accounts, one who owed 10,000 talents[s] was brought before him.
Luke 17:3-4
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.

[SUP]4 [/SUP]And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him.

This is a precedence set in order to be saved and forgiven through the sacrifice of Christ Jesus. We must follow in His footsteps for it is the same with us toward others.

"But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance." (Matthew 9:13)

Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee. Acts 8:22
 
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Siberian_Khatru

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AuphirahQueen said:
Is there a mob mentality today in Christianity(...)?
Absolutely, and preceding and proceeding today.

I digress: I took modern day stoning a little out of context before coming here. :eek:
 
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doesn't "WIDE ROAD" correspond with "mob " ?

(including both unbelievers and those who think they are believers)
 

maxwel

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I have a very old article (back in the '60's) from Charisma Magazine, entitled, Why do Christians Shoot Their Wounded? . It's too long to post here (and is now unavailable in the original text), but if anyone would like to read it, I can send it to you. It was most interesting.

Publicly debating doctrine is not "shooting the wounded".


Debating doctrine is... debating doctrine.


"Shooting the wounded" would refer to being cruel to someone who has committed sin, or fallen in the faith, and who is repentant, and now needs support and forgiveness... and INSTEAD of forgiving and helping them, we turn on them.

This has nothing to do with debating doctrine.


Whenever someone wants to publicly proclaim HORRIBLE DOCTRINES,
and someone else stands up and corrects their doctrine,
they immediately want to "play the victim",
and accuse you of HARMING them.

This is nonsense.

If you're going to preach a doctrine, then be able to back it up.




 
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