Reincarnation

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Jesus the one true God found in the Bible.
Can you explain How God got into mary's womb and then mary gave birth to God is that right?, i just don't understand it?, you will have to forgive me because worship, Christianity, God and religion does not come naturally to me, i'm just a natural man living on a natural planet, i am researching, i am a truth seeker if that's a better way of saying it. I have to force belief at this point in time, some of it kind of feels natural but i tend to use reasoning and logic.
 
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Can you explain How God got into mary's womb and then mary gave birth to God is that right?, i just don't understand it?, you will have to forgive me because worship, Christianity, God and religion does not come naturally to me, i'm just a natural man living on a natural planet, i am researching, i am a truth seeker if that's a better way of saying it. I have to force belief at this point in time, some of it kind of feels natural but i tend to use reasoning and logic.
Reason and logic aren't the enemy of the Christian faith, but they also only go so far. Holy Spirit enabled Mary to grow Jesus (in human form) inside her. Mary gave birth to Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ was fully God and fully man, as He existed on this earth and when He returned to Heaven to be with His Father and gifted us with His messenger - Holy Spirit. I don't know the Science behind it, there's an element of faith in God's revelation (found in the Bible) when it comes to the miraculous.
 
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But some claim that Jesus Christ is God Himself?.
Jesus Christ is God, but He's not God the Father. Or Holy Spirit for that matter. But He is God.
 
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Reason and logic aren't the enemy of the Christian faith, but they also only go so far. Holy Spirit enabled Mary to grow Jesus (in human form) inside her. Mary gave birth to Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ was fully God and fully man.
That is not logical no matter how you spin it, i don't mean to be rude but come on you just claimed that Jesus Christ was man and then claim he is God?, if not then when did Jesus become God?,Jesus was either born a man or he was born God logic dictates that you can't be both.
 

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Can you explain How God got into mary's womb and then mary gave birth to God is that right?, i just don't understand it?, you will have to forgive me because worship, Christianity, God and religion does not come naturally to me, i'm just a natural man living on a natural planet, i am researching, i am a truth seeker if that's a better way of saying it. I have to force belief at this point in time, some of it kind of feels natural but i tend to use reasoning and logic.
If there is a God who created everything, including nature and natural laws...
then he is clearly OUTSIDE of those laws, rather than INSIDE of them and bound by them.

A God big enough to create the universe can obviously do WHATEVER ELSE he pleases...
and he isn't bound by the philosophical constraints YOU want to place on him.
Apparently... YOU aren't running the show.
 
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That is not logical no matter how you spin it, i don't mean to be rude but come on you just claimed that Jesus Christ was man and then claim he is God?, if not then when did Jesus become God?,Jesus was either born a man or he was born God logic dictates that you can't be both.
I know it, it doesn't make sense to me either, but the Bible clearly teaches that Jesus is God and man. Jesus was God before He came to earth and became a man and then He lived, suffered, died and rose as God/man.
 
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Ok, who is God the Father?
I don't understand the question. God the Father is God the Father. He's God and the head of the loving divine hierarchy of our Triune God.
 
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That is not logical no matter how you spin it, i don't mean to be rude but come on you just claimed that Jesus Christ was man and then claim he is God?, if not then when did Jesus become God?,Jesus was either born a man or he was born God logic dictates that you can't be both.
I thought I mentioned that reason and logic can only get you so far.
 
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God suffered, died.
That's the bit i am having huge issues with, i thought God was eternal, He has no beginning nor end, so going by that logic God can not die? but according to many God died because He was Jesus Christ who is God. Confusing and illogical, just my observations.
 
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Jesus (Yeshua) was born 100% man but He was 100% God. How can we say this?

Yeshua was born from Mary 100% woman, but impregnated by the Holy Spirit 100% God.

I don't know if you have heard the saying we are born in sin? What does this mean, have we sinned without doing anything? No, that would be unfair but we are born from sinful seed. That means my father sinned and his father sinned and his father sinned etc up to Adam. Yeshua and Adam were the only two not born from sinful seed, that is why Yeshua is also called the second Adam, but the difference is that one was 100% without sin while the other one was deceived by the enemy and sinned while in the garden.
 
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That's the bit i am having huge issues with, i thought God was eternal, He has no beginning nor end, so going by that logic God can not die? but according to many God died because He was Jesus Christ who is God. Confusing and illogical, just my observations.
God is eternal but in human form He was 100% man and He could die.
 

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I haven't read all the posts yet I will say this..The opening post of John the Baptist and Elijah conclusion is wrong!

God was comparing men in the History of time to the messages of the plan of God to come..That being Christ. John the Baptist was a man who pointed to repentance...He was the red carpet to christ message of Faith in Christ thru grace.

Elijah was the predecessor to Elisha who also had a historical value to the different focuses of Gods plan. Elijah was judgement/ Elisha grace.

Anyway your conclusions are self-seeking for your messages you bring in to work the room like a lawyer. Be In Christ in these things He will show you His truths, I here I this I that from you It is not I anything.

Sorry but the china conclusion is wrong on two levels as well...I am just trying not to prove every issue when what you need simply to hear is A man who loses his life will gain it!
 
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God is eternal but in human form He was 100% man and He could die.
Illogical, i'm sorry, i don't mean to be rude but you make no sense of the matter.

What some are saying or that is how i am reading into it, is that God left Heaven, placed Himself into the womb of Mary, was born a baby human boy, grew to become the messiah, God died (impossible if He is eternal) then went somewhere? , back to heaven?, then resurrected Himself then later returned to heaven?.

You can't be the same person and be in two places at the same time unless there are two Gods in this case scenario.
 

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Amen! Tin Tin.