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prophecy knowledge wisdom speaking in tongues discernment of spirits. the last is how I knew you were a pharisee which you have not addressed as of yet.
 
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prophecy knowledge wisdom speaking in tongues discernment of spirits. the last is how I knew you were a pharisee which you have not addressed as of yet.
I've seen what oldhermit has said in his posts for some time now. I think he has the gift of faith, and at least one more that the Bible calls the discerning of spirits which for sure makes him a pharisee. NOT! If you don't have the gift called the "discerning of spirits" then you cannot judge another that has that gift. And the gifted won't judge you either.

1 Corinthians 12:8-10
[SUP]8 [/SUP]For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
[SUP]9 [/SUP]To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
[SUP]10 [/SUP]To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
 
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Just me if you say he operates in these gifts and he denies them then you are calling him a liar or me for saying he needs the gift.
 

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prophecy knowledge wisdom speaking in tongues discernment of spirits. the last is how I knew you were a pharisee which you have not addressed as of yet.
Friend you are no prophet and your understanding of what the Holy Spirit has written belays your claim on wisdom. As for the other 'gifts' you mentioned, that claim is no more valid that the others.
 

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Jacob, not Abraham, wrestled with God. King Belshazzer, not Moses, saw God's hand writing on the wall. Please read your Bible!
LOL. I corrected him on Jacob. I completely missed the comment about Moses.
Tintin if Jesus be the body and the Holy Spirit be spirit is it not possible that God the Father be the soul of the Godhead and they together be body soul and spirit of the full glory of God?
I believe that I am starting to see the handwriting on the wall.
 
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Oldhermit what I have spoken is truth. You do not deny being a pharisee which is good. I commend you for that. Pray for faith my friend. Gods gifts are still active.
 
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I've seen the thought put forth that since God breathed into Adam and he became a living soul that means that God has a soul. So I guess it stands to reason that God is also a tree since He created trees and He's a Zebra since He created Zebra's.

It is believed that Living soul (Heb. nepesh Chayah) should be rendered "living creature", if so, what are we to make of:

And the very God of peace santify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 1Thess.5:23
 
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My theory on the soul is just that a theory but it does make sense. If you are to replace soul with living creature you would have the word of God saying we are body living creature and spirit. Which makes no sense. Also for God to breathe into Adams nostrils it took far more than just speaking that accomplished all other creations. The bible warns us of the laying on of hands and the transference of evil spirits that is done that way. It takes a physical touch in many instances to do that. Maybe just maybe this physical touch and the breathing into the nostrils is how God transferred part of Himself into Adam again like I said this is just my theory like oldhermit has pointed out this is not relying on spiritual wisdom or knowledge to come to this conclusion.
 
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My theory on the soul is just that a theory but it does make sense. If you are to replace soul with living creature you would have the word of God saying we are body living creature and spirit. Which makes no sense. Also for God to breathe into Adams nostrils it took far more than just speaking that accomplished all other creations. The bible warns us of the laying on of hands and the transference of evil spirits that is done that way. It takes a physical touch in many instances to do that. Maybe just maybe this physical touch and the breathing into the nostrils is how God transferred part of Himself into Adam again like I said this is just my theory like oldhermit has pointed out this is not relying on spiritual wisdom or knowledge to come to this conclusion.
Since God is a Spirit and has no body, how can it even begin to make sense that He possess a soul?
 
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Since God is a Spirit and has no body, how can it even begin to make sense that He possess a soul?
Do you believe Jesus the Christ, was God manifest in the flesh?, He had body soul and Spirit, the Godhead dwelt bodily in Him, but He still put on Flesh and Blood, SINLESS, but it looked just like Abraham's, flesh/bone, Issac's flesh bone, Adam's Flesh bone.. etc........ it Behooved Him to be 'like His brothers and sisters as it partakes to flesh bone, He didnt manifest Himself in the form of an Angel, but flesh and bone.. God manifest in the flesh, Great IS THE MYSTERY OF GODLINESS! iNdEEd!
 
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prophecy knowledge wisdom speaking in tongues discernment of spirits. the last is how I knew you were a pharisee which you have not addressed as of yet.
You might want to refine your ability to discern spirits. Oldhermit is a wonderful brother in the Lord who acknowledges Jesus Christ's divinity and shares His grace with love, gentleness and sincere concern for others.
 
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Do you believe Jesus the Christ, was God manifest in the flesh?, He had body soul and Spirit, the Godhead dwelt bodily in Him, but He still put on Flesh and Blood, SINLESS, but it looked just like Abraham's, flesh/bone, Issac's flesh bone, Adam's Flesh bone.. etc........ it Behooved Him to be 'like His brothers and sisters as it partakes to flesh bone, He didnt manifest Himself in the form of an Angel, but flesh and bone.. God manifest in the flesh, Great IS THE MYSTERY OF GODLINESS! iNdEEd!
Yes, Great is the Mystery of Godlines, and because God chose to manifest Himself in the flesh has no bearing on the fact that God is a spirit and having no body it is impossible for Him to have a soul. God gave carnal man a soul so he would have the ability to direct his carnal life spiritually.

The carnal side of man is sight, smell, hearing, taste and touch. If man didn't posess a soul with conscience, memory and affections, he couldn't discern the things of the spirit.
 
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Yes, Great is the Mystery of Godlines, and because God chose to manifest Himself in the flesh has no bearing on the fact that God is a spirit and having no body it is impossible for Him to have a soul. God gave carnal man a soul so he would have the ability to direct his carnal life spiritually.

The carnal side of man is sight, smell, hearing, taste and touch. If man didn't posess a soul with conscience, memory and affections, he couldn't discern the things of the spirit.

to say that God doesnt have a SOUL.. is to REJECT THE NOTION that God did in the Peron of Christ, God manifest in the flesh, you DENY Him when you say that.. and it appears that MYSTERY has yet to be revealed to you.. carry on! the GRACE OF GOD put on flesh bone, having a soul, Spirit and Body. He truly did.. that is what Grace is about.. HE DID THAT, it behooved Him.. sorry..
 
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a facinating topic!

from Isaiah, " In the year that king Uzziah died, I saw the Lord..." Isaiah says he's seen the Lord, the 'YHWH'

does your study bible affirm that Jesus is God? (and maybe it doesn't... I'm new on this thread...) how does it handle the idea that people could see Jesus?
Yes, my Bible says that Jesus was God. People could see Jesus because He came in the "likeness" of sinful flesh.

For what the law could not do, in that it was weak throught the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin condemned sin in the flesh. Roman 8:3

American Dictionary of the English Language, Noah Webster, c.1828

Likeness, n. 1). Resemblance in form. 2). Resemblance; form, ....external appearance.

So it was only in external appearence that Jesus was in the flesh, in every other sense He was filled with the Godhead.

For in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily. Colossians 2:9
 

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Yes, my Bible says that Jesus was God. People could see Jesus because He came in the "likeness" of sinful flesh.

For what the law could not do, in that it was weak throught the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin condemned sin in the flesh. Roman 8:3

American Dictionary of the English Language, Noah Webster, c.1828

Likeness, n. 1). Resemblance in form. 2). Resemblance; form, ....external appearance.

So it was only in external appearence that Jesus was in the flesh, in every other sense He was filled with the Godhead.

For in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily. Colossians 2:9
sounds good... I wonder what Isaiah saw then?
 
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sounds good... I wonder what Isaiah saw then?
It doesn't matter that you cannot supply a scripture reference.

The fact is pure and simple:

No man hath seen God at any time.............John 1:18a

I think that people that claim to have seen God are really seeing a Christophany. And it is rightful that Jesus the Christ could put Himself in that position since creation is attributed to Him:

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God.

All things were made by Him; and without Him was not any thing made that was made. John 1:1-3
 

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Can you please provide a scripture reference for that?
Isaiah 6 "In the year that king Uzziah died, I saw the Lord..."

and a few lines later "my eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts"
 
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Isaiah 6 "In the year that king Uzziah died, I saw the Lord..."

and a few lines later "my eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts"
Whatever he saw it wasn't the Lord God Almighty God the Father.

No man hath seen God at any time John 1:18a
 

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Whatever he saw it wasn't the Lord God Almighty God the Father.

No man hath seen God at any time John 1:18a
right, so I wonder what it was he did see... Jesus without a body? Jesus with a body before he was born to Mary? something else?