TRUTH is simple, and helps (NOT) everyone....

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Jeff_56

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jesus says simply, if I(jesus) abide in you (NOT the pope, not a man, not a strange fire, not a strange doctrine), but if I(jesus) abide in you, and you abide in me(jesus), .... .... ....

...... sigh, no one gets that far.... (not here, not in catholicism, not in religion, not in society).....

..... yes, still, his promise, whoever has the son has life, simple. true.
..... yes, still, his promise, whoever has not the son has not life. simple. true.


simple: you cannot have the son, and also have the heresy.

simple: you cannot have the son, and also love the world nor the things of the world.

simple: you cannot trust in the flesh(any man/society/mankind/priests/popes/scientists/etc etc) , and still have the son.

simple: everyone can be saved the same way - in the son. through his grace, by faith in him. no other way. no other system. no demonic influences. not the way of men..... not the way of religion...

so,

for all the seekers, realize that no one who trusts in man/mankind/the pope/heresy/religion can be helped - they have already failed.

if they repent, turn to yahweh (god), and forsake all their sin forever, he might grant them mercy. (he knows all, he knows their heart, and he does as he pleases; ..... forever).....
 
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Jeff_56

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Dan_473 said:
Jesus said 'I will build my church'...

so, where is the church that Jesus is building?
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jesus did build it. it is in every place(nation/country), but not recognized by the world....

the members of his body are poor, humble, lowly, considered outcasts by and laughed at by all levels of society(few exceptions, by grace)....

when the last one has been put to death for their faith, as it is appointed them, as it is written,

then yahweh will execute his vengeance swiftly; ..... soon, very soon.... as it is written.... though no man knows.
 
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Jeff_56 said:
jesus did build it. it is in every place(nation/country), but not recognized by the world....

the members of his body are poor, humble, lowly, considered outcasts by and laughed at by all levels of society(few exceptions, by grace)....

when the last one has been put to death for their faith, as it is appointed them, as it is written,

then yahweh will execute his vengeance swiftly; ..... soon, very soon.... as it is written.... though no man knows.
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so... some folks are getting that far...
 
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Jeff_56 said:
jesus did build it. it is in every place(nation/country), but not recognized by the world....

the members of his body are poor, humble, lowly, considered outcasts by and laughed at by all levels of society(few exceptions, by grace)....

when the last one has been put to death for their faith, as it is appointed them, as it is written,

then yahweh will execute his vengeance swiftly; ..... soon, very soon.... as it is written.... though no man knows.
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Amen. the judgments of God on the wicked are happening very soon. And the redemption and resurrection of all those who believe in Jesus is also going to happen very soon. But the great tribulation has to happen first.
 
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Christ Himself, God manifest in the flesh, built His chruch upon His Work at Calvary... indeed, When Peter, said, thou art the Christ (anointed) One, this Revelation was in the Spirit from the Father, Only the Father Revealed that to Peter, Christ's True Church, ARE HIS ELECT, those who are Chosen in Him, from the Foundation of the world, the Merits of their Salvation, based in God Grounded in God and His counsel and Will, this not carnal church membership...... His True church , their Names are Written in Heaven, the 'called out ones'.. Hebrews speaks specifically of that, these made up of jews and gentiles.. from the Foundation of the World.. when Peter wrote, he wrote to Christ's church, the Elect of God. who were SCATTERED all around, were these in the Majority? no, scattered, those who had RECIEVED LIKE PRECIOUS FAITH, obtained that, didnt work for it, didnt buy it, etc.. Given, Obtained for the Elect, these He has known since before time and dirt were created, to conclude that all different sects, divisions of christ, denominational systems, fringe groups, all these make of the 'body of christ', to conclude that.. would be in great error...and it is... God calls out His Own from the Darkness, even darkness posing as light'.. satan's congregation. indeed! These are His Righteous Ones, the Righteousness of God are the elect, not based on their merits, but Because God has Decreed it and He made them, predetermined to be conformed to the Image of His Only Begotten, changed from the Inside out.. indeed! thru the Circumcision of the Eternal Spirit, God's Only way, this provided by Christ's appeasement at the Tree, He that was made a quickening Spirit.. indeed!




Dan_473 said:
Jesus said 'I will build my church'...

so, where is the church that Jesus is building?
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Jeff_56 said:
the members of his body are poor, humble, lowly, considered outcasts by and laughed at by all levels of society(few exceptions, by grace)....
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yes, i don't think we are all necessarily poor outcasts.
Abraham was a very wealthy man, honored by kings.

Jeff_56 said:
then yahweh will execute his vengeance swiftly; ..... soon, very soon.... as it is written.... though no man knows.
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amen, come.
 
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Jeff_56

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how much, how much in the past, perhaps might be questioned, but it was often...

and

in the future (which is now), as believers will completely refuse the mark of the beast and the world system,

they will be mocked, scourged, beaten, shot, arrested, imprisoned, tortured and put to death daily....

("will be?" ..... already in most of the world... )
 
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Bowhunter2394 said:
Christ Himself, God manifest in the flesh, built His chruch upon His Work at Calvary... indeed, When Peter, said, thou art the Christ (anointed) One, this Revelation was in the Spirit from the Father, Only the Father Revealed that to Peter, Christ's True Church, ARE HIS ELECT, those who are Chosen in Him, from the Foundation of the world, the Merits of their Salvation, based in God Grounded in God and His counsel and Will, this not carnal church membership...... His True church , their Names are Written in Heaven, the 'called out ones'.. Hebrews speaks specifically of that, these made up of jews and gentiles.. from the Foundation of the World.. when Peter wrote, he wrote to Christ's church, the Elect of God. who were SCATTERED all around, were these in the Majority? no, scattered, those who had RECIEVED LIKE PRECIOUS FAITH, obtained that, didnt work for it, didnt buy it, etc.. Given, Obtained for the Elect, these He has known since before time and dirt were created, to conclude that all different sects, divisions of christ, denominational systems, fringe groups, all these make of the 'body of christ', to conclude that.. would be in great error...and it is... God calls out His Own from the Darkness, even darkness posing as light'.. satan's congregation. indeed! These are His Righteous Ones, the Righteousness of God are the elect, not based on their merits, but Because God has Decreed it and He made them, predetermined to be conformed to the Image of His Only Begotten, changed from the Inside out.. indeed! thru the Circumcision of the Eternal Spirit, God's Only way, this provided by Christ's appeasement at the Tree, He that was made a quickening Spirit.. indeed!
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right, so the 'no one gets that far' in post #1... maybe that should be 'most people don't get that far'...
 
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Jeff_56 said:
quote:
..."... (not here, not in catholicism, not in religion, not in society)..... "

i.e. stay in context....
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right, context is important! so,

"but if I(jesus) abide in you, and you abide in me(jesus), .... .... ....

...... sigh, no one gets that far.... (not here, not in catholicism, not in religion, not in society)....."

the context is Jesus abiding in us, and us abiding in Jesus...

so, "no one gets that far..." sounds to me like no one's doing it...

and "(not here...)" would be here on CC... or maybe here on earth...
 
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Dan_473 said:
Jesus said 'I will build my church'...

so, where is the church that Jesus is building?
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I am here, being built up, growing in the faith, running the race, pressing on to the goal.
 
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Jeff_56 said:
jesus did build it. it is in every place(nation/country), but not recognized by the world....

the members of his body are poor, humble, lowly, considered outcasts by and laughed at by all levels of society(few exceptions, by grace)....

when the last one has been put to death for their faith, as it is appointed them, as it is written,

then yahweh will execute his vengeance swiftly; ..... soon, very soon.... as it is written.... though no man knows.
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1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 (KJV) [SUP]13 [/SUP]But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. [SUP]14 [/SUP]For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. [SUP]15 [/SUP]For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. [SUP]16 [/SUP]For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: [SUP]17 [/SUP]Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. [SUP]18 [/SUP]Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
 
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