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Did they get paid or were they forced to work for their overseers? As far as I know, the bible says nothing about slavery being wrong and the Israelites, who were slaves to the Egyptians, had some who were slaves. It was likely those of a different culture to their own, numbered in one of the posts above. I believe the bible only talks about the treatment of slaves, not of it's sinful or righteous nature.

My belief is, it's wrong for any and all nations people, cultures, etc.
perhaps after reading GOD'S WORD, your 'belief' will change to GOD'S. perhaps not - he won't force you to
belong to him or believe HIS WORD IS TRUTH.
 

posthuman

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On foot and they could only move 60 feet a day?
where in the world did you get that idea?

"wander" implies not-straight-line motion, i am led to believe.
 
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atwhatcost

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On foot and they could only move 60 feet a day?
I get this feeling there was more to this post. You thought something, and didn't put that part down, just the conclusion of your thought. So, huh?

I'm disabled, so I can't move as far or as swiftly as most folks. (I've had people with walkers pass me. lol) I can still get more than 60 feet per day.
 

posthuman

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I get this feeling there was more to this post. You thought something, and didn't put that part down, just the conclusion of your thought. So, huh?

I'm disabled, so I can't move as far or as swiftly as most folks. (I've had people with walkers pass me. lol) I can still get more than 60 feet per day.

yeah, i was guessing he found it was X miles from Egypt to Jericho, it took 40 years before they got there, so..

distance = rate * time
rate = distance / time = . . . = 60 feet per day

well that's assuming a straight-line-path at constant speed. which is a bad assumption.
 
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atwhatcost

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#45

yeah, i was guessing he found it was X miles from Egypt to Jericho, it took 40 years before they got there, so..

distance = rate * time
rate = distance / time = . . . = 60 feet per day

well that's assuming a straight-line-path at constant speed. which is a bad assumption.
Ohhhh, thank you. Now I get it. And, I agree with you. "wander." I'm very good at wandering, so I know it takes me 90 feet to move 60 feet away. lol
 

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#46

yeah, i was guessing he found it was X miles from Egypt to Jericho, it took 40 years before they got there, so..

distance = rate * time
rate = distance / time = . . . = 60 feet per day

well that's assuming a straight-line-path at constant speed. which is a bad assumption.
It was a marathon instead of a sprint.
 
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perhaps after reading GOD'S WORD, your 'belief' will change to GOD'S. perhaps not - he won't force you to
belong to him or believe HIS WORD IS TRUTH.
No problem, correct my errors with the word. I am here to learn, not teach.
 

posthuman

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#48
this thread needs more math.

[HR][/HR]
sin + sin = more sin

sin + the blood of Jesus = no sin
[HR][/HR]
man·∂(sin) = death

man·∂() = life


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∀x, x ∈ Christ → x ∈ life
⇒ life ⊆ Christ


∀y, y ∈ life → y ∈ Christ
⇒ Christ ⊆ life


∴ Christ = life
[HR][/HR]
y'all please double-check my calculations?

:D
 
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On foot and they could only move 60 feet a day?
if only 60 feet a day were moved, that would only be 30 people (with 2 feet each)....

that would take years and years for a million people with 2 million feet to move then !
 
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As far as sacrifice was concerned the busiest day of the year was Passover. Multi-thousands of lambs were sacrificed all in one day. On these special festival days all of the priests served in the temple at the same time. Normally there were only 24 on duty at a time and they served for 8 days twice a year. There were 24 courses of Priests of 24 each. This was a minimum of 576 plus reserves. The Passover lamb was slaughtered at the top of the stairs of the temple at the Nicanor gate. The worshiper himself had to cut the throat of the lamb and the blood caught in a basin. This was then splashed on the side of the alter. The priests operated “bucket brigade” style and stayed with it until the job was done. This happened on Nissan 13th at the end of the day.

The Passover was always celebrated on the 14th of Nissan. The day began at about 7:00 PM. Also the standard Tamid evening sacrifice was held normally at 2:30PM each day. (There were two a day morning and evening) But on Passover the evening sacrifice was moved back from 2:30PM to 1:30 PM to allow extra time. There was a minimum of 10 people required for Passover minimum. So divide the number of people by at leat ten or more to determine how many lambs were slaughtered. So if you had a Passover population of 600,000 people in the city there would need to be no more than 60,000 lambs slaughtered. But it was probably way less than this as this is a theoretical maximum number.
 
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nw2u

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if only 60 feet a day were moved, that would only be 30 people (with 2 feet each)....

that would take years and years for a million people with 2 million feet to move then !
I don't understand that, but I like it, whether it's scripture or not. Someone will help you. I am not qualified.
 
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Delivery

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120,000 Israelite men left Egypt. That's not counting women and children. 51% of the world's population is female. (No idea how many children.)

Let us assume within that first year, more boys became men and more girls became women. Let us also assume since they didn't have as many distractions as we have today (TV, the Internet, traditional jobs, etc.) while they stayed in the wilderness, more people were born than died. (I'm not sure of that, but it seems reasonable.)

So, the law comes down, and people are supposed to sacrifice their firstborn animals (of the clean variety, not the unclean) and their first fruits (as much as they can have first fruit out in the wilderness) for all sorts of reasons -- sin offering, wave offerings, thanksgiving offerings, etc.

One tabernacle, and they're supposed to take it there.

120,000 men! Have you ever seen 120,000 people hanging out together? It's crowded. Kind of frightening, because that's a lot of people. There's many more, so I'm guessing some are close to the tabernacle and some are waaaaaaaaaaaaaay over there. More are somewhere in between. (They weren't huddle together in one acre.)

The math problem? How did the priest do that much work? Especially given the big thing that happened in that wilderness was the group grew. What about that old couple waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay over there that have trouble walking that far? What about the young couple waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay over there with four kids all under the age of four?

Can anyone give me some insight how they pulled that off in the wilderness? And given they were even further away by the time Solomon's temple showed up, that's even more walking. How did that work?
I think it was because they liked to walk. God wanted them to stay healthy and in tip top shape so He had them walk long distances to the temple to offer Sacrifices. They probably didn't consider it a sacrifice, even for the aged or the youngsters cause they were doing what God told them to do and, therefore, were happy to do it. And when they obeyed the Lord, God gave them the extra strength they needed.

[SUP]15[/SUP] Happy is that people, that is in such a case: yea, happy is that people, whose God is the LORD. Amen?
 
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They wandered around in the desert for 40 years even though it would have taken them less than a year to go all the way there from Egypt, because they disobeyed God and murmured at His ability to fight for them and they were afraid of the giants who inhabited the land that God told them to go in and conquer. What's the moral of the Story? When you obey the Lord He gives you the strength to carry on and He fights for you even if the monsters you are fighting against are bigger and stronger than you. (Whether they be physical monsters or spiritual monsters)

He giveth power to the faint; and to them that have no might he increaseth strength.
[SUP]30[/SUP] Even the youths shall faint and be weary, and the young men shall utterly fall:
[SUP]31[/SUP] But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint.
 
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They wandered around in the desert for 40 years even though it would have taken them less than a year to go all the way there from Egypt, because they disobeyed God and murmured at His ability to fight for them and they were afraid of the giants who inhabited the land that God told them to go in and conquer. What's the moral of the Story? When you obey the Lord He gives you the strength to carry on and He fights for you even if the monsters you are fighting against are bigger and stronger than you. (Whether they be physical monsters or spiritual monsters)

He giveth power to the faint; and to them that have no might he increaseth strength.
[SUP]30[/SUP] Even the youths shall faint and be weary, and the young men shall utterly fall:
[SUP]31[/SUP] But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint.
The extra 39 years of foot travel, being a punishment for not believing the 2/10 spy report (Joshua and Caleb saying go for it), was actually more of a circular trip around and around Mt. Sinai. Each month someone in the crowd surely called out "Haven't we been here before?".

All the adults that believed the 8 negative spies died in that wilderness, including Moses, except Joshua and Caleb, and all the youth that grew up in those 40 years, and their children.

All those non-Israelites were required by the law to satisfy the law, or be tossed out on their own.

In those days if a person could buy a slave pretty cheap. So if you were a slave and could afford it, you could buy a slave to do your slave work for you. Once that slave got hold of some wealth, he could buy a slave to do his slave work for your slave task, so that if effect there would be slaves serving slaves, setting up a pecking order of high slave down to low slave, so to speak. The system kept everybody employed.

With enough slaves having hope you their owner is being led by God to a better life, it's conceivable to me that having the cloud of God's presence each day to moderate the heat of the sun, and the column of fire by night, one could move slowly with flocks and herds as they feed on weeds along the way. The "wilderness" was not a barren desert then, but like many wildernesses in the world, difficult places to find comfort. Leviticus explains that they moved along under those conditions, then stopped to camp whenever the cloud of God came into the Tabernacle. When the cloud lifted, they moved along.

Being not feeble, shoes not wearing out, plus....Psalm 105:37-42 (KJV)
[SUP]37 [/SUP] He brought them forth also with silver and gold: and there was not one feeble person among their tribes.
[SUP]38 [/SUP] Egypt was glad when they departed: for the fear of them fell upon them.
[SUP]39 [/SUP] He spread a cloud for a covering; and fire to give light in the night.
[SUP]40 [/SUP] The people asked, and he brought quails, and satisfied them with the bread of heaven.
[SUP]41 [/SUP] He opened the rock, and the waters gushed out; they ran in the dry places like a river.
[SUP]42 [/SUP] For he remembered his holy promise, and Abraham his servant.
 
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I know I'm going to get this math question wrong but I'm gonna go with, what is 3 Alex... :)
 
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Did they get paid or were they forced to work for their overseers? As far as I know, the bible says nothing about slavery being wrong and the Israelites, who were slaves to the Egyptians, had some who were slaves. It was likely those of a different culture to their own, numbered in one of the posts above. I believe the bible only talks about the treatment of slaves, not of it's sinful or righteous nature.

My belief is, it's wrong for any and all nations people, cultures, etc.
And, yet, is it not interesting that Jesus didn't campaign against the custom?
 
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They wandered around in the desert for 40 years even though it would have taken them less than a year to go all the way there from Egypt, because they disobeyed God and murmured at His ability to fight for them and they were afraid of the giants who inhabited the land that God told them to go in and conquer. What's the moral of the Story? When you obey the Lord He gives you the strength to carry on and He fights for you even if the monsters you are fighting against are bigger and stronger than you. (Whether they be physical monsters or spiritual monsters)

He giveth power to the faint; and to them that have no might he increaseth strength.
[SUP]30[/SUP] Even the youths shall faint and be weary, and the young men shall utterly fall:
[SUP]31[/SUP] But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint.
Actually, as I recall, it was something like an eleven day journey, if taken directly as a purposed trip. (Somewhere like that. Amazingly short, compared to 40 years....... but that generation had to die off first.)
 
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Your math is a little off..there were 600,000 men over the age of 20........!
 
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That's the silliest statement I have ever heard. Even America had thousands and thousands of slave families, kids, dogs, and all. Of course some slaves worked for other slaves.
Give an example of a culture were slaves have slaves.
Not only your Dogmatic opinion.