Until Christ be formed in You

[Bowhunter2394]

My little children, of whom I Travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you, Galatians 4
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Here Paul is writing to those Christians in Galatia, what does this mean to you?

'travail in birth' AGAIN, until Christ be formed in you
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Galatians , Paul is writing to, obviously some of them God had saved but they were 'going back under the Law' for justification, even though claiming to follow Christ. they had moved into the works of the flesh... Paul , troubled and in travail, trying to get their attention as to their Error.. TRAVAILED in Spirit, I dont know if any of you know what its like to Travail in the Spirit when you see 'others' being deceived into error by the Wicked one... it truly is Travail of the spirit... until 'Christ' be formed in you.. the Word Christ, 'anointing'... seems they had gone back into the Flesh, and the 'anointing' given to them at Geunine Conversion was gone.. or had departed... these who had decided to go Back under the Law for Justification, the Anointing or a Piece of It, God gives the Genuine Convert upon Conversion, being Born again from Above.. interesting... an Unction or piece of that Anointing from Jesus.. in You as a Convert.. indeed... its obvious from these Words, Paul Travailed a FIRST time for them, probably as a young convert and now HE IS AT IT AGAIN..... look at what John tells the Elect as he writes to them...

But ye have an Unction from the Holy One, and ye knowall things. 1 John 2

 

[Jeff_56]

yes, but most all of the world believes something or someone else.

whoever they listen to , they obey.

it's not usually yahweh (god or jesus or HIS WORD). the churches and the world is full of deceptions.

for the few, the remnant, the ekklesia, the born from above ones, the born again, the set apart in JESUS

the seekers of truth, the humble(yahweh gives grace to the humble), those whose sin yahweh does not

hold against them any more..... yes, for the few, they learn from yahweh in yahshua and have the unction, the anointing, and have it without measure, freely, sheer grace, gift from GOD.

 

[Grandpa]

A person is under the law their whole life. Its the one thing everybody knows.

But when we come to Christ, we see that only faith and trust in Him and His Work is what saves.

After we have been born again it is probably natural to think we are super men and we are ready to be super holy and super obedient.

It should only take a few moments to see that we aren't super men. As soon as we step out from under Christ and think we can perform Gods requirements we have fallen from His Grace. We need to go back and see that when we are weak, He Is Strong. Without Christ we can do nothing. He is our provision and our Blessing.

 

[passing_through]

A Christians confession:
I know one thing, that Christ is not formed in me, that I am not formed into the image of Christ, and that I am not sanctified.

 

[Bowhunter2394]

A person is under the law their whole life. Its the one thing everybody knows.

But when we come to Christ, we see that only faith and trust in Him and His Work is what saves.

After we have been born again it is probably natural to think we are super men and we are ready to be super holy and super obedient.

It should only take a few moments to see that we aren't super men. As soon as we step out from under Christ and think we can perform Gods requirements we have fallen from His Grace. We need to go back and see that when we are weak, He Is Strong. Without Christ we can do nothing. He is our provision and our Blessing.

Its when a person understands that one is so Weak, and un able to even Live in this life, separate from Him that is where God Meets the Person.. and that is at the Foot of The Cross.. where it leaves you powerless, because it exposes your inadequacies, and short comings, but it allows the Grace Power Truth and love of God to flow into a broken vessel that 'knows' its own wretchedness and weakness, but DEPENDING TOTALLY ON THE Risen Master to get it done.. by Faith as you move in Him.. as He leads you to step out of the Boat.. God births, His anointing in His Own, in brokenness and Humility.. no other way.. the Pride of man, the lusts of the flesh, the pride of life.. all those are of the world, its in this State at the Foot of the Cross, where your broken and humble that He DOES SOME OF THE GREATEST accomplishments THRU you.. by the Power of the Holy Ghost.. .. those in the flesh dont understand nor do they 'discern'.. their natural man allows them to condemn, accuse, falsify, the Spirit of Grace and His Work.... God does His Greatest Things thru you.. as they were Ordained.. by Him from Before Dirt and Time were created.. when you are at your 'weakest' point.. His Strength made perfect in 'weakness'.. and His Anointing is birthed in humility and brokenness.. this done so that No flesh can glory in His presence....


And He said unto me, My Grace is Sufficient for thee: for My Strengthis made perfect inweakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the Power of Christ may Rest upon me. 2 Corinthians

God resists the PROUD in spirit, but Giveth more Grace unto the Humble.. these Broken in spirit and humble, yet filled with His Power as they Rest at the Foot of the Tree, under the of the cross....

Crucified with Christ..

 

[Grandpa]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Bowhunter2394 again.

Well I hope some more people read that last one...

 

[passing_through]

A Christians confession:
I know one thing, that Christ is not formed in me, that I am not formed into the image of Christ, and that I am not sanctified.

I miss the theme of the OP, I was provoked by the phrase, "until Christ be formed in you", slightly off topic.

 

[psychomom]

I miss the theme of the OP, I was provoked by the phrase, "until Christ be formed in you", slightly off topic.

a passage that comes to mind...

Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,
nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.

Such were some of you;

but you were washed,

but you were sanctified,

but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.(1 Cor 6:9-11)

 

[Bowhunter2394]

I miss the theme of the OP, I was provoked by the phrase, "until Christ be formed in you", slightly off topic.

Christ ( His anointing) must be 'formed in you'.. before His Genuine Image of Him, that which is Predestined unto the Believer and FOUND in that Inner Man, not the flesh.. is begun..

the Inside Work manifested outwardly.... thru the Fruits of the Spirit, and the Power of the Spirit...

Today man in his flesh creates an image that starts on the outside. but never does anything for the inside... this in turn will characterize that last global apostate church, that is prophesied to come.. that church or Harlot, false, CARNAL, FEEDING OFF THE FLESH and the illumination of the 'light bearer' (satan)will in turn, replace the Work of the Paraclete, on the inside man, with pharmaceutical behavior control medication.. a fleshly, carnal, man made image of Christ.. Apostate, this is the Direction all those different groups or sect or divisions are heading.. even some of the largest and thee largest pentecostal sect or group that is allowed to flourish on this planet...

For many are called by Few are Chosen, in these chosen ones.. He Births His anointing, they know they are Genuinely Saved from the Day He Grants Salvation to them, but if they are Genuinely His.. He will 'birth' that Unction in them.. indeed. this done not in the flesh, religious pride, but in Brokenness and Humility, when you are in the Postion in Him, the Adversary gets reallllllllyyy nervous.. and ye begin to see his fruit.. as he 'targets' you. because Ye Know your Election and ye know that ye are SEated with Him in the Heavens... indeed

 

[passing_through]

a passage that comes to mind...

Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,
nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.

Such were some of you;

but you were washed,

but you were sanctified,

but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.(1 Cor 6:9-11)

Yes, I think I understand you, I know that I have been Identified with Christ and he born my sins. I am His, just not fully. Thanks Psychomom, thank you very much.

Sorry to the OP for this rabbit trail.

 

[Bowhunter2394]

Yes, I think I understand you, I know that I have been Identified with Christ and he born my sins. I am His, just not fully. Thanks Psychomom, thank you very much.

Sorry to the OP for this rabbit trail.

no problem no such thing as a dumb question when done out of the spirit of humility.. no problem here..

 

[passing_through]

no problem no such thing as a dumb question when done out of the spirit of humility.. no problem here..

Much thanks, bother.

 

[Bowhunter2394]

Much thanks, bother.

Come unto Me, all ye that Labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you Rest.

Take My Yoke upon you, and Learn of Me; for I am Meek and Lowly in Heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

For My Yoke is Easy, and my Burden is Light.

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the Paraclete, the Spirit of Christ, so humble and meek, no pride, Easy to understand, and His Yoke Light... not burdensome... He PAID THAT AND CARRIED that. at the Tree, He has done it for you! indeed

 

[passing_through]

Come unto Me, all ye that Labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you Rest.

Take My Yoke upon you, and Learn of Me; for I am Meek and Lowly in Heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

For My Yoke is Easy, and my Burden is Light.

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the Paraclete, the Spirit of Christ, so humble and meek, no pride, Easy to understand, and His Yoke Light... not burdensome... He PAID THAT AND CARRIED that. at the Tree, He has done it for you! indeed

A wonderful promise, thanks.

 

[Jeff_56]

do not wait another day, do not just confess, but (repent) and seek fully and turn to the father(GOD) in heaven, and trust the heavenly father to do his work in you, through jesus the messiah...

as it is written in HIS WORD

[h=3]Hebrews 3:15 As has just been said: "Today, if you hear his voice ...[/h]biblehub.com/hebrews/3-15.htm‎

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As it is said, “Today, if you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts as in the
rebellion.”

A Christians confession:
I know one thing, that Christ is not formed in me, that I am not formed into the image of Christ, and that I am not sanctified.

 

[Bowhunter2394]

do not wait another day, do not just confess, but (repent) and seek fully and turn to the father(GOD) in heaven, and trust the heavenly father to do his work in you, through jesus the messiah...

as it is written in HIS WORD

Hebrews 3:15 As has just been said: "Today, if you hear his voice ...

biblehub.com/hebrews/3-15.htm‎

• Cached
• Similar

As it is said, “Today, if you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts as in the
rebellion.”

are you Jewish by ethnos? just curious.....

 

[MarcR]

A person is under the law their whole life. Its the one thing everybody knows.

But when we come to Christ, we see that only faith and trust in Him and His Work is what saves.

After we have been born again it is probably natural to think we are super men and we are ready to be super holy and super obedient.

It should only take a few moments to see that we aren't super men. As soon as we step out from under Christ and think we can perform Gods requirements we have fallen from His Grace. We need to go back and see that when we are weak, He Is Strong. Without Christ we can do nothing. He is our provision and our Blessing.

A person is under the law their whole life. IMO this is questionable depending on what you mean by it.

We are certainly not under the penalty of the Law in Christ. We remain subject to the law in that what the law says is wrong is still wrong and what the law says is right is still right.


We are not under the Law in the sense that our relationship with God does NOT depend on our obedience. In fact our obedience depends on the Holy Spirit's prompting and enablement.

 

[Bowhunter2394]

A person is under the law their whole life. IMO this is questionable depending on what you mean by it.

We are certainly not under the penalty of the Law in Christ. We remain subject to the law in that what the law says is wrong is still wrong and what the law says is right is still right.


We are not under the Law in the sense that our relationship with God does NOT depend on our obedience. In fact our obedience depends on the Holy Spirit's prompting and enablement.

I think he meant UNTIL the Veil is pulled away. then they are not and its Only Christ that can remove the Veil or scales.. much like Saul of Tarsus, he was blinded, then when God restored his sight, 'like scales fell away' from his eyes, restoring his sight... Scales in that conversion of Paul.. would be similar to the Veil of the Flesh.. which represents Saul's staunch Adeherence to the Law, in the flesh, But Christ Breaks that and removes that veil.. so one walks in the Newness of the Spirit... not the flesh......

 

[Bowhunter2394]

Look at this from Isaiah-------->

And the LORD of Hosts shall stir up a Scourge for him according to the slaughter of Midian at the rock of Oreb: and as his rod was upon the sea, so shall He lift it up after the Manner of Egypt.

And it shall come to pass in that day, that his burden shall be taken away from off thy shoulder, and his yoke from off thy neck, and the yoke shall be destroyed because of the Anointing. Isaiah 10

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the yoke and burden, shall be destroyed or removed BECAUSE OF THE ANOINTING OF GOD... that burden and yoke, the sin of unbelief and the deception that satan brings as he blinds the minds of those who are perishing, making them believe their works are GOOD ENOUGH to merit Heaven. NOOOO... God has provided the Way, and the Complete Work, Christ Crucified, and from there comes the Rest, and the anointing as He sets you down at the foot of the Cross, His nail pierced feet, and you LEARN from Him, in Humility and Meekness, yet walking in Power... the ANOINTING of God breaks the Yoke and burden, that comes from the condemnation that is brought on by the Wicked one as he tells you... your not doing enough! thats not Good enough, then when you act on that.. he strokes your EGO.. and says atta boy! puffing up your pride.. he does not WANT you to understand the REality and Power behind Christ Crucified, for him that is the end of his dominion and power over you... using condemnation and guilt as the 'fuel' to get you to work more for your Salvation... he is very cunning at his tactics, hes not called the one who sealed up the sum for no reason! God's Anointing that comes from Christ, will HELP you overcome and be Victorious in your daily life! indeed To God be the Glory!

 

[Bowhunter2394]

Just a word of caution, nothing against the 'like' button or the rep button.. but the 'shining one'. can use those to 'puff you up also'. oh yes.. people will play off those 'likes'. ------> keep the perspective of the Source of the Illumination , Christ Crucified and His anointing or Unction.. indeed!