Ok I have one scripture for the sinless

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Blain

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It's a simple task explain what you think the scripture says and means, if anyone refuses to do so that makes me believe they can't without it contradicting their sinless doctrine
 

Blain

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If you have to have someone explain scripture, that's okay. If you come on a bible forum and spout like you know scripture, and then duck like a dodge ball player, you're weak.
You don't know scripture. You're weak. And I owe no one an explanation if that explanation isn't going to educate them. I believe in God, I believe the bible is His word, and all my posts are aligned with scripture. You, son, need to grow up. Get on your knees, off the bottle, and stop venturing into strong meat. You, like so many others, will choke on it. Just like you are doing now.
I'm weak when you respond so immaturely? It's a simple task if you cannot or will not explain what it means to you then I can only think you can't without it contradicting your sinless doctrine and the fact you respond in hostility only makes me believe this more
 

PennEd

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Having sin in the flesh is different than the spirit.
I am not my flesh...even as Jesus said I will never die. When I was born again...my identity is from heaven...not here.
I do not sin...but have sin in the flesh until it is also completely removed/refined out/purged.

Romans 7 combined with the following passage confirms the two separate identities.


1 John 3:8-10Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

8*He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. 9*Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 10*In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
The sin He is referring to is the sin of rejecting Jesus, and receiving the Holy Spirit, ALL other sins, past, present and future, have been paid for by the blood of Christ.

I haven't read these silly threads about people, saved or not, NOT sinning. Are you really trying to tell me you have lived a perfect, sinless life since accepting Jesus? You never lied, you never failed to come to a complete stop at a stop sign, you never went a single mile over the speed limit, you never said a curse word, you never looked at a beautiful woman and had an unclean thought in life or on tv, you never had an angry word or thought about someone, I could go on and on but if you say you NEVER sin any more I feel sorry for you. THAT is an incredibly dangerous place to be.
 
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phil112

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blain, you should send this fella a private message.....you two would get along fine.
Bickering with me and arguing about who is right, is foolish. God is right. Truth is immutable. When I say something against His word, nail me. Want to get mad at me? Fine. Don't let the sun go down on your wrath.
Am I hostile? Damn straight...hostile against anyone that perverts scripture.
Want to have an honest reasonable discussion with me? Okay, but put aside your learned errors and bring the bible to the table.
Do that and I am here....all day long.
 

PennEd

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If you have to have someone explain scripture, that's okay. If you come on a bible forum and spout like you know scripture, and then duck like a dodge ball player, you're weak.
You don't know scripture. You're weak. And I owe no one an explanation if that explanation isn't going to educate them. I believe in God, I believe the bible is His word, and all my posts are aligned with scripture. You, son, need to grow up. Get on your knees, off the bottle, and stop venturing into strong meat. You, like so many others, will choke on it. Just like you are doing now.

I think this post by you could be argued to be sinful. Accusing your brother of being drunk is a false accusation. Can't you see how silly it is for you to claim you don't sin?
 
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phil112

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I'm weak when you respond so immaturely? ..........
Don't mistake disgust for immaturity. I read posts like yours and it tires me. Listen to the word and we'll be better off. Be an igmo and this is how you will be treated by me forever.
 
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phil112

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I think this post by you could be argued to be sinful. Accusing your brother of being drunk is a false accusation. Can't you see how silly it is for you to claim you don't sin?
Now this is a funny post. Thanks, PennEd, I needed a bit of comic relief. The bottle refers to milk. Read the bible and you will have more insight to this forum. Bottle of milk is for babes in the word, strong meat is for mature believers.
Thanks, I appreciate that!:)
 

PennEd

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blain, you should send this fella a private message.....you two would get along fine.
Bickering with me and arguing about who is right, is foolish. God is right. Truth is immutable. When I say something against His word, nail me. Want to get mad at me? Fine. Don't let the sun go down on your wrath.
Am I hostile? Damn straight...hostile against anyone that perverts scripture.
Want to have an honest reasonable discussion with me? Okay, but put aside your learned errors and bring the bible to the table.
Do that and I am here....all day long.
Colossians 3:8 brother. I think you just did a couple of the bad things listed there in this post.

8 But now you yourselves are to put off all these: anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy language out of your mouth.


 

Blain

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blain, you should send this fella a private message.....you two would get along fine.
Bickering with me and arguing about who is right, is foolish. God is right. Truth is immutable. When I say something against His word, nail me. Want to get mad at me? Fine. Don't let the sun go down on your wrath.
Am I hostile? Damn straight...hostile against anyone that perverts scripture.
Want to have an honest reasonable discussion with me? Okay, but put aside your learned errors and bring the bible to the table.
Do that and I am here....all day long.
First off I am not bickering I am simply asking a simple request, if you are as learned of scripture as you think you are this an easy matter for you. second i am not mad in the least I am very calm third being hostile does not show any kind of maturity in Christ fourth i didn't pervert any scriptures I posted one and asked what you thought it meant
 

Blain

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Don't mistake disgust for immaturity. I read posts like yours and it tires me. Listen to the word and we'll be better off. Be an igmo and this is how you will be treated by me forever.
lol how very Christian of you
 
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phil112

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Colossians 3:8 brother. I think you just did a couple of the bad things listed there in this post.

8 But now you yourselves are to put off all these: anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy language out of your mouth.


AAAhhh, tell me, friend, what, if it does, does the bible say about those that stir up trouble?
I'm pretty sure your computer will help you get there without my input.
Tell me, friend, what have I said that is wrong? Nothing. Are you going to take Christ to task for driving out the money changers with whips?
What are you even here for? God's word is truth. You cannot change fact. He is the only way.
I will expound that 'til the day I die. Want to be mad at me? Have fun. Killing the messenger doesn't change the message. Never has, never will. While you're on you 'puter, look that up too.
 
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phil112

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lol how very Christian of you
Who said I was Christian, and what did I say that was wrong?
Is that all you have?
My words are nothing. His words are everything.
Grow up.
 

Blain

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AAAhhh, tell me, friend, what, if it does, does the bible say about those that stir up trouble?
I'm pretty sure your computer will help you get there without my input.
Tell me, friend, what have I said that is wrong? Nothing. Are you going to take Christ to task for driving out the money changers with whips?
What are you even here for? God's word is truth. You cannot change fact. He is the only way.
I will expound that 'til the day I die. Want to be mad at me? Have fun. Killing the messenger doesn't change the message. Never has, never will. While you're on you 'puter, look that up too.
what have you said that is wrong? well lets see you responded in hostility you cussed you accused me of drinking being weak and perverting scripture and you respond rudely to others in this thread which by the way is a sin
 

Blain

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Who said I was Christian, and what did I say that was wrong?
Is that all you have?
My words are nothing. His words are everything.
Grow up.
If you are not a Christian then you are not saved
 
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phil112

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First off I am not bickering I am simply asking a simple request, if you are as learned of scripture as you think you are this an easy matter for you. second i am not mad in the least I am very calm third being hostile does not show any kind of maturity in Christ fourth i didn't pervert any scriptures I posted one and asked what you thought it meant
Now this I will respond to...in a different attitude.
I am no bible scholar, only a student. I know a few things about His word because He revealed them to me. I know truth and I know we can't change it. I would gladly impart everything I know to you. It doesn't belong to me. It was given to me.
If you want maturity, don't stomp your feet and sound like a spoiled child.

Seriously, would you like to progress in His word? I would. I am on this forum for two reasons, one, to fellowship, and two, to further my understanding of Him.

When someone, as you have done, treats that with derision, that is what you get back.
Do you want to go to heaven? I do. And we can do it together. But we can't do it if we allow animosity to control us.
Are those words clear enough for you?
 

PennEd

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Who said I was Christian, and what did I say that was wrong?
Is that all you have?
My words are nothing. His words are everything.
Grow up.
Give a man enough rope..... Your'e kinda scary. I think I'll disengage. I pray in Jesus name that He would change your heart.


This is probably why I steered clear of these "I don't sin anymore" dudes.
 
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Every one has a right on cc to start a thread and everyone has a right to post in that thread.
Just play by the rules that cc sets.
I am learning this myself.
 
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phil112

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.......... you cussed ............you accused me of drinking .........
You surely aren't going to stand by that post?
You read where I explained you are on the bottle...like a newborn babe.
Cussed? son, grow up.
What are cuss words?
Piss? bastard? ass? whore?
They're all in the bible, and I meant nothing I said to be hateful and derogatory. Words have no harm, it is the intent that matters.
 

Blain

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Now this I will respond to...in a different attitude.
I am no bible scholar, only a student. I know a few things about His word because He revealed them to me. I know truth and I know we can't change it. I would gladly impart everything I know to you. It doesn't belong to me. It was given to me.
If you want maturity, don't stomp your feet and sound like a spoiled child.

Seriously, would you like to progress in His word? I would. I am on this forum for two reasons, one, to fellowship, and two, to further my understanding of Him.

When someone, as you have done, treats that with derision, that is what you get back.
Do you want to go to heaven? I do. And we can do it together. But we can't do it if we allow animosity to control us.
Are those words clear enough for you?
Please explain how i was acting like a spoiled child. all I did was ask you to explain to me what the scripture means and If you offered a counter scripture after doing so I would answer yours, the fact is scripture doesn't contradict it's self only our view of it does, clearly this scripture seems to contradict your sinless doctrine which is why it must have struck a nerve when i challenged you to explain what it means and why you refuse to do so and added on top of that are responding in hostility. You say I need to mature and grow up but the only one acting immature here is you
 
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phil112

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Give a man enough rope..... Your'e kinda scary. I think I'll disengage. I pray in Jesus name that He would change your heart.


This is probably why I steered clear of these "I don't sin anymore" dudes.
friend, you are your own free moral agent. You don't have to stop sinning. I am certainly not going to deny you that right. Christ is the only one you have to explain it to.