"The Law" of the Old Testament is NOT the "Law of Christ": 1 Cor 9:21

[Preacher]

"The Law" of the Old Testament is NOT the "Law of Christ": 1 Cor 9:21

1 Cor 9:21 "to those who are under the Law, as under the Law, though not being myself under the Law, that I might win those who are under the Law, to those who are without law, as without law, though not being without the law of God but under the law of Christ, that I might win those who are without law"

1. Paul is not under the Law of the Jews
2. But Paul is not without law
3. Paul is under a different law from the Jews
4. Paul is under the Law of Christ

 

[BradC]

Re: "The Law" of the Old Testament is NOT the "Law of Christ": 1 Cor 9:21

Preacher, good points!

 

[valiant]

Re: "The Law" of the Old Testament is NOT the "Law of Christ": 1 Cor 9:21

1 Cor 9:21 "to those who are under the Law, as under the Law, though not being myself under the Law, that I might win those who are under the Law, to those who are without law, as without law, though not being without the law of God but under the law of Christ, that I might win those who are without law"

1. Paul is not under the Law of the Jews
2. But Paul is not without law
3. Paul is under a different law from the Jews
4. Paul is under the Law of Christ

I both agree and disagree

The Law of Christ can be summed up in the two great commandments, the law of love for God and the law of love for man. This was where Christians were to lay their emphasis. On the other hand those two great commandments come from the Law of Moses. What is in mind is not a new Torah, but a new emphasis on what should be central in the Torah. We should not be 'under the Torah' striving to observe its every detailso as to be acceptable with God, but we should be guided by the essential principles of the Torah as we live our lives in Christ.

 

[just-me]

Re: "The Law" of the Old Testament is NOT the "Law of Christ": 1 Cor 9:21

1 Cor 9:21 "to those who are under the Law, as under the Law, though not being myself under the Law, that I might win those who are under the Law, to those who are without law, as without law, though not being without the law of God but under the law of Christ, that I might win those who are without law"

1. Paul is not under the Law of the Jews
2. But Paul is not without law
3. Paul is under a different law from the Jews
4. Paul is under the Law of Christ

So is this a teaching that Jesus' law is in conflict with His own Father's law, will, and foreknowledge? Or is the law you are talking about the distorted carnal/fleshly/humanistic interpretation of God's law that is not the same as the law of Christ?

 

[posthuman]

Re: "The Law" of the Old Testament is NOT the "Law of Christ": 1 Cor 9:21

part of the Torah is commandments to atone for sin with the blood of animals. it should be obvious then that the law of Christ - which is to love the Almighty, to receive the love of Him, and to love others with this same love - is not to keep all of the commandments given specifically to the nation Israel.

as He said, all the law hangs on the commandment to love God and to love your neighbor. if we keep this, don't we also keep the commandments not to steal, covet, lie, etc - and to have pity and mercy on the poor, and to do good? if we are completely obedient to love the Creator and to manifest this in love to the created, do we need specific laws to leave the edges of our fields for the poor to eat from, and not to make for ourselves other gods? if we have His love, do we need to separate ourselves from the world by not eating pork, and wearing blue tassels? it seems to me like a greater thing separates us than these simple outward signs, that the Spirit living in us should make clear.

 

[BradC]

Re: "The Law" of the Old Testament is NOT the "Law of Christ": 1 Cor 9:21

Law of Christ

Romans 7:4-9
7:25 6:3
8:2
10:4
Galatians 2:6
2:21
3:17
5:4
6:2
1 Tim 4:6
Heb 6:1-3
2 John 2:9-12
John 6:63
Matt 25:35
Matt 5:17,18
Matt 5:33-48
Gal 3:24-29

Law of Christ which came by grace and truth (John 1:17) exceeds and excels in glory and surpasses the law that was given by Moses, causing it to vanish and be done away (2 Cor 3:7,10,13). The law of Christ is far greater then the law of Moses and is revealed to us by the Holy Spirit that dwells within us (1 Cor 2:9-13).

 

[Grandpa]

Re: "The Law" of the Old Testament is NOT the "Law of Christ": 1 Cor 9:21

2 Corinthians 3:7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:

Romans 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

1 Corinthians 15:56-57
[SUP]56 [/SUP]The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.
[SUP]57 [/SUP]But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[GracethroughfaithinChrist]

Re: "The Law" of the Old Testament is NOT the "Law of Christ": 1 Cor 9:21

Romans 10:4
For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.

 

[Grandpa]

Re: "The Law" of the Old Testament is NOT the "Law of Christ": 1 Cor 9:21

Galatians 2:19-21
[SUP]19 [/SUP]For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

 

[just-me]

Re: "The Law" of the Old Testament is NOT the "Law of Christ": 1 Cor 9:21

part of the Torah is commandments to atone for sin with the blood of animals. it should be obvious then that the law of Christ - which is to love the Almighty, to receive the love of Him, and to love others with this same love - is not to keep all of the commandments given specifically to the nation Israel.

as He said, all the law hangs on the commandment to love God and to love your neighbor. if we keep this, don't we also keep the commandments not to steal, covet, lie, etc - and to have pity and mercy on the poor, and to do good? if we are completely obedient to love the Creator and to manifest this in love to the created, do we need specific laws to leave the edges of our fields for the poor to eat from, and not to make for ourselves other gods? if we have His love, do we need to separate ourselves from the world by not eating pork, and wearing blue tassels? it seems to me like a greater thing separates us than these simple outward signs, that the Spirit living in us should make clear.

Let's take a look of what is hanging on the law of love.

Leviticus 19:17-18
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the Lord.

Deuteronomy 6:5 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

Deuteronomy 13:1-4
1 If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them;
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the Lord your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Ye shall walk after the Lord your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him.

By George, the law of love is defined in the law. What about that?

"Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind." Matthew 22:37

 

[secularhermit]

Re: "The Law" of the Old Testament is NOT the "Law of Christ": 1 Cor 9:21

Is there such thing named Paulism?

I know there is secular-ism.

 

[wincam]

Re: "The Law" of the Old Testament is NOT the "Law of Christ": 1 Cor 9:21

the great confusion, error. mistake is to accept that the ten commandments came from Moses and not from Jesus Christ - He said no new commandment give I unto you ......other than the ten I have already given imho is how I understand it - wincam

 

[just-me]

Re: "The Law" of the Old Testament is NOT the "Law of Christ": 1 Cor 9:21

Is there such thing named Paulism?

I know there is secular-ism.

Never heard that, but the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own is predominate. It's called plagiarism. It happens all the time. Inventions of numerous religious doctrines.

 

[Grandpa]

Re: "The Law" of the Old Testament is NOT the "Law of Christ": 1 Cor 9:21

Matthew 11:28-30
[SUP]28 [/SUP]Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
[SUP]29 [/SUP]Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
[SUP]30 [/SUP]For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

 

[Bowhunter2394]

Re: "The Law" of the Old Testament is NOT the "Law of Christ": 1 Cor 9:21

Matthew 11:28-30
[SUP]28 [/SUP]Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
[SUP]29 [/SUP]Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
[SUP]30 [/SUP]For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

the MYSTERY of the Rest of God, In Christ, under the Shadow of the Cross, its Preaching and Power, the Widsom of God and the Power of God .. indeed!

rest in the completed work of the Cross!, Christ removes that Veil or Scales, until that time.. its work work work work wokr work... followed by Condemnation and Guilt.. the Blood of Christ, removes that guilt and condemnation. indeed!

 

[Bowhunter2394]

Re: "The Law" of the Old Testament is NOT the "Law of Christ": 1 Cor 9:21

The Law of Christ is fulfilled in: -------> Loving the LORD with all thy heart, thy soul, mind, and spirit,
and to Love thy Neighbor as thyself.

Paul even goes on to teach in Galatians, For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.


Christ did this from the Tree.. where He gave Himself, the Righteous for the un righteous, died for the sinner and the good man... GAVE himself, Love thy neighbor as thyself. and IN DOING THIS IF YE ARE. then you are LOVING GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, MIND, SOUL , AND SPIRIT.