God's name left out of bible.

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Dorcas

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Do you think that it is okay to leave out God's name from the bible, just because we don't know the exact pronunciation? We don't know if Jesus' name is being pronounced correctly, but we still use his name.
I put up another post today for people to tell me what God's name is. I was interested in how many different replies that I would get. As most of you are aware the Tetragrammaton is the four Hebrew letters that make up God's name. The Hebrew language doesn't use vowels, so we can't be 100 % sure how to pronounce God's name. Different bibles translate God's name in different ways. The Tetragrammaton appears over 7,000 times in the Hebrew scripture. A lot of bibles have completely removed God's name from it. Some only use God's name very sparingly such as the King James Version.
I am not disputing how to correctly spell or say God's name, I am only asking if it is okay to purposely leave out God's name.
Psalm 83:18King James Version (KJV)

[SUP]18 [/SUP]That men may know that thou, whose name alone is Jehovah, art the most high over all the earth.
 

maxwel

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It seems like you've already thought about this a lot.

Please share your thoughts with us.
Please tells us what you think, and what bible translation you think we should use.
 
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Dorcas

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It seems like you've already thought about this a lot.

Please share your thoughts with us.
Please tells us what you think, and what bible translation you think we should use.
I have shared my thoughts. Should I say it again. We don't know what God's name really is. People have different opinions. I quoted KJV because it is very popular. Other translations say Yahweh. I don't care what translation you use. I personally like to use lot's translations. I frequently go to biblegateway.com because I like to compare. If you would like a suggestion about what bible to read I would recommend reading a Hebrew and Greek Interlinear bible along with the bible you are currently reading. All bible translations will teach you about God and his Son. You can be a good Christian no matter what bible you read, as long as you read and apply it.
 
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Do you think that it is okay to leave out God's name from the bible, just because we don't know the exact pronunciation? We don't know if Jesus' name is being pronounced correctly, but we still use his name.
I put up another post today for people to tell me what God's name is. I was interested in how many different replies that I would get. As most of you are aware the Tetragrammaton is the four Hebrew letters that make up God's name. The Hebrew language doesn't use vowels, so we can't be 100 % sure how to pronounce God's name. Different bibles translate God's name in different ways. The Tetragrammaton appears over 7,000 times in the Hebrew scripture. A lot of bibles have completely removed God's name from it. Some only use God's name very sparingly such as the King James Version.
I am not disputing how to correctly spell or say God's name, I am only asking if it is okay to purposely leave out God's name.
Psalm 83:18King James Version (KJV)

[SUP]18 [/SUP]That men may know that thou, whose name alone is Jehovah, art the most high over all the earth.
I can pronounce his name. It's God. It's Jehovah. It's Father. It's Jesus. It's Emmanuel. It's Holy Spirit. It's Trinity. It's I AM THAT I AM. Cool thing about the Bible, they translate it into every language so the language speakers can pronounce the names.

Greeks don't call their country Greece. I'm American. I call it Greece. Italy doesn't call any of its towns the same thing I call them. (I'm not sure if they call Italy Italy.) That's okay. I'm fine using the American equivalent. Egyptians don't call their land Egypt. They don't even use the same alphabet as I do. That works for me.

So what's wrong with using the names for God as written in the English speaking, or even American speaking, Bible? It's not like he doesn't know it's him. He even knew it's him when the Chinese called him Jao and the Romans called him Jove.
 
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Do you think that it is okay to leave out God's name from the bible, just because we don't know the exact pronunciation? We don't know if Jesus' name is being pronounced correctly, but we still use his name.
I put up another post today for people to tell me what God's name is. I was interested in how many different replies that I would get. As most of you are aware the Tetragrammaton is the four Hebrew letters that make up God's name. The Hebrew language doesn't use vowels, so we can't be 100 % sure how to pronounce God's name. Different bibles translate God's name in different ways. The Tetragrammaton appears over 7,000 times in the Hebrew scripture. A lot of bibles have completely removed God's name from it. Some only use God's name very sparingly such as the King James Version.
I am not disputing how to correctly spell or say God's name, I am only asking if it is okay to purposely leave out God's name.
Psalm 83:18King James Version (KJV)

[SUP]18 [/SUP]That men may know that thou, whose name alone is Jehovah, art the most high over all the earth.
Well YHWH's name isn't taken out of bibles REALLY. Anytime you see the name "LORD" in all capital letters, it is where the Tetragrammaton is written in the original scriptures.
 
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If I called His exact name, will He grant me special and particular attention?
 
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If I called His exact name, will He grant me special and particular attention?
if you called with a right heart in his sight, yes.

almost no one knows his name, let alone even fewer have a right heart and spirit.
 
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the antichrist has edited it out on purpose and no longer allows it to be spoken or written in the (false) worship services or any of the writings, songs, bibles or anything used in the devil's workshop.....

why do you ask ?

Do you think that it is okay to leave out God's name from the bible......
 
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JesusIsAll

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If I called His exact name, will He grant me special and particular attention?
If you get the vowels right, you'll win your choice of a knit or velvet yarmulke, along with an autographed picture of Buffalo Bill Hawkins.
 
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JesusIsAll

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Look, peoples, the Bible says this,

Matthew 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.

That's a name, the Name, plain as day, which also means "Jehovah is salvation." To whit,

Acts 4:10-12 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Can't speak for you guys, but Jesus it is, then. I also like simply calling Him Lord, as is reverent and befits the one Lord of all creation.
 
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No...! At the name of JESUS every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess.....God has given us the names that are acceptable to use and he knows our hearts......

I AM
Immanuel
Jesus
Heavenly Father

Just to name 4......God inspired the men to write what was written...to wonder if it is ok to leave out what God has inserted answers your question with a resounding NO.......No where are we allowed the right and or freedom to ADD to and or REMOVE anything from the word of God!
 
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אֶהְיֶה אֲשֶׁר אֶהְיֶה
ehyeh ašer ehyeh

I Am that I Am
YHWH
GOD
In the simplest explanation, God knows when you call His name and no matter what language one calls upon the name of the Lord, they will be saved. Even in Chinese or Swahili.

Romans 10:13

For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

God is not sleeping, nor is anything hidden from His sight. He sees our inner heart and thoughts. The name originally given to the Gentiles in Koine Greek was Ἰησοῦ (Iēsou) Χριστοῦ (Christou). Those of us who speak English say Jesus Christ. His name in Hebrew is pronounced Yahshua Ha' Mashiach (Jesus the Messiah or Christ).

He was rejected and murdered by the Judeans so the Gentiles could be grafted in. Don't be deceived, God's will is done without man having an ability to change His perfect will. Also if God's name is hidden or mispronounced how are we still receiving the Holy Spirit through faith in the only begotten Son of God Jesus Christ even to this day.......

Acts 4:10-12

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Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. 11This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. 12Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
 
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Dorcas

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Why isn't there consistency in the translation of the Tetragrammaton within a particular bible? For instance the King James Version translates the Tetragrammaton as Jehovah at Psalm 83:18. What about the rest of the 7,000 times the Tetragrammaton is used in the Hebrew scriptures? A lot of other English bibles translate the Tetragrammaton as Yaweh but not consistently.
 

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Shalom

[video=youtube;NscHCa395-M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NscHCa395-M[/video]
 
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Dorcas

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This is an example of translating the Tetragrammoton in two inconsistant ways. This is taken from the Strong's Hebrew Interlinear Bible found at biblehub.com. Why is the Tetragrammoton being translated as Lord? Notice how Lord is spelled in Hebrew.
psalm83.JPG psalm  Hebrew Interlinear.JPG
 

crossnote

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My name is Richard. But if you call me

Ριχάρδος (Greek)
Richárd (Hungarian)
Riku (Finnish)
Ričardas (Lithuanian)
Ricardo (Spanish)

it's still me!!
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JesusIsAll

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My name is Richard. But if you call me

Ριχάρδος (Greek)
Richárd (Hungarian)
Riku (Finnish)
Ričardas (Lithuanian)
Ricardo (Spanish)

it's still me!!
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Can't count the times I've had the same thought, when confronted with sacred names stuff. There are those making some royally whacko claims, the name Jesus an antichrist, Hellenic conspiracy of Satan, funny if it weren't so hideously bizarre. But, as you well point out, our names vary, language to language, yet the same name, some languages in a form we wouldn't even recognize as our own names. But it's no less our name.
 

Jon4TheCross

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I know many of the names of God. Is it really even remotely hard to understand that He has many names...including a name which nobody knows?

Revelation 19:11-13New King James Version (NKJV)

Christ on a White Horse
11*Now I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse. And He who sat on him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and makes war. 12*His eyes were like a flame of fire, and on His head were many crowns. He had[a] a name written that no one knew except Himself. 13*He was clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God.
 

MarcR

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Do you think that it is okay to leave out God's name from the bible, just because we don't know the exact pronunciation? We don't know if Jesus' name is being pronounced correctly, but we still use his name.
I put up another post today for people to tell me what God's name is. I was interested in how many different replies that I would get. As most of you are aware the Tetragrammaton is the four Hebrew letters that make up God's name. The Hebrew language doesn't use vowels, so we can't be 100 % sure how to pronounce God's name. Different bibles translate God's name in different ways. The Tetragrammaton appears over 7,000 times in the Hebrew scripture. A lot of bibles have completely removed God's name from it. Some only use God's name very sparingly such as the King James Version.
I am not disputing how to correctly spell or say God's name, I am only asking if it is okay to purposely leave out God's name.
Psalm 83:18King James Version (KJV)

[SUP]18 [/SUP]That men may know that thou, whose name alone is Jehovah, art the most high over all the earth.

We do NOT know how to pronounce the three forms of God's name but we can translate all three.


The most frequently appearing form of God's name is יְהוָה I AM.

God is called אֶֽהְיֶה֖ I WILL BE, in Exodus 3:14 though it is usually translated as I AM, incorectly.

God is called הָיִ֤יַה I HAVE BEEN in Jeremiah 31:9 though this is also mistranslated as I Am.