homosexuality is a sin

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It does not matter if the pride flag resembles Gods covenant what matters is God did not make a covenant with homosexuals
 

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It does not matter if the pride flag resembles Gods covenant what matters is God did not make a covenant with homosexuals
It is a sin. But like any other sin, it's a sin one can overcome only through Christ alone.
 

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It does not matter if the pride flag resembles Gods covenant what matters is God did not make a covenant with homosexuals
He died for them that's enough for me. homosexuality is a sin but are we any better I wonder? We are all sinners in some way so I cannot judge another because of a certain sin they do it's not my job to judge or condemn it's my job to love and be love that's it.
 

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Thank you for this oh so thrilling and informative thesis on the relation between christianity and human sexuality.
 

valiant

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Strictly speaking there is no such thing Biblically as a homosexual. All men and women have sexual feelings and those can be directed as men and women choose. It was God's purpose that they be directed at those of the opposite sex. For a man to direct his sexual feelings towards another man and indulge in sexual practises is sinful. And to continue in such relationship is wilful sin and separates from God. in the same way as a man in an adulterous relationship is living in wilful sin and is separated from God. The same is true for a woman.

But Romans 1.26-27 seems to suggest a special horror of God against such 'homosexual' practises.

Walking in deliberate sin can only be forgiven if there is true repentance and a turning from that sin. Thus no genuine Christian can be a 'practising homosexual'.
 

valiant

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He died for them that's enough for me. homosexuality is a sin but are we any better I wonder? We are all sinners in some way so I cannot judge another because of a certain sin they do it's not my job to judge or condemn it's my job to love and be love that's it.
But when the Scriptures condemn a sin specifically it is our responsibility to point out that continuation in that sin without repentance cannot be forgiven.
 
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There is a problem here. We know the Lord condemns homosexuality as sin, the act of sexual activity between people of the same sex. The problem is it appears a certain number of members of society feel this attraction very strongly, whatever the source or cause. Some can show in their lives it is a developmental stage, others it could be triggered by abuse and others it appears innate to who they are.

It is easy to say from ones own perspective, what it means to oneself, but that does not bring light on anothers experience.
Some would argue this orientation is permanent, but this cannot be demonstrated, only many suffer massive emotional trauma because they find themselves caught by how they feel with little options.

Some gay christians are starting to argue the issue is not about orientation but faithfulness, ie love shared between two individuals out weighs inappropriate orientation. Unfortunately for me, I understand the love expressed between two people is a beautiful and precious thing and is truly significant. The problem though goes deeper. Sexuality can be expressed and twisted to be focused on objects, children, violence, being abused etc. but this does not legitimize its position.

The line for me is simple, sex is about families and children, and in that context has only one formula.
Intimacy can be shared between any two individuals, but is not sexual, rather it is about caring and bonding between individuals. Unfortunately for many the two are so closely linked, one is assumed to mean the other, which is simply not true. Many many marriages never achieve intimacy, so it is often wrong to assume even a functioning relationship works properly.

My experience of homosexuals is a problem of heightened activity with few boundaries, because the normal biological issues are not in play between female and male roles, so things easily race away. Their militancy becomes any boundaries are wrong, and total carnal behaviour is freedom rather than bondage. I have seen people have sexual change operations, only to find it was their personal identity that was the problem, not their gender. People get lost in anatonomy only to realise love matters more, to be cared for, and reached out to.

As christians we are commanded to reach out and share what Jesus has done in our lives. Accepting where people are and not condemning them but working with them is more important, as every situation is different and there are no pat simple resolutions.
 
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Sin is sin.When a thread is started about homosexuality I think the person whether they know it or not they are saying that some sins are not as bad as others in GOD's eyes but they are trying to look at sin from man's way of looking at sin.Big sin and little sin.

Why wasn't a thread started about "driving over the speed limit is a sin?
 
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Sin is sin.When a thread is started about homosexuality I think the person whether they know it or not they are saying that some sins are not as bad as others in GOD's eyes but they are trying to look at sin from man's way of looking at sin.Big sin and little sin.

Why wasn't a thread started about "driving over the speed limit is a sin?
This thread was started to emphasize the distinct difference between the pride flag and Gods covenant. To use Gods covenant to further the agenda of homosexuality is just wrong. God hates homosexuality like all sin. The covenant was given to man kind because of His love. Homosexuality comes by three ways. One is sin against the person which is more common, the second is a generational curse that was acted upon. The third is willful sin. In all accounts each one of the homosexuals has felt shame over this. This shame is merely God letting you know you are living wrong just like with any other sin. It is your choice to pursue Him or your desires. Do not be fooled if you have passed the stage of shame it is not a good thing. It is God giving you up to a reprobate mind not God finally accepting you. I love some of the answers here that yes its sin but God loves the sinner and no sin is different. However God detests homosexuality we must as well. The homosexuals are militantly pushing there agenda down our throats and America is swallowing it up. We must rise up and never support this shameful act.
 
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When you lift all of the prohibitions and legalize alcohol, drugs, homosexuality, you lower the bar for people and say anything goes. Yes Alcohol is a different subject but not alcoholism its the same.
 
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It does not matter if the pride flag resembles Gods covenant what matters is God did not make a covenant with homosexuals
God makes a covenant with all sinners: "He who believes will have eternal life."

Period. No hoops to jump through, no exclusionary clauses, no fine print.

Get over yourself.
 
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God makes a covenant with all sinners: "He who believes will have eternal life."

Period. No hoops to jump through, no exclusionary clauses, no fine print.

Get over yourself.
But,but,but "we" CAN'T have "THOSE sinners" in heaven,their worse sinners then "we" are. God hate them sinners worse then our pet sins,(Which "we" never want to point out in "our" own lives) "They" are unclean. :rolleyes::p
 

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But,but,but "we" CAN'T have "THOSE sinners" in heaven,their worse sinners then "we" are. God hate them sinners worse then our pet sins,(Which "we" never want to point out in "our" own lives) "They" are unclean. :rolleyes::p
if we could ever get into the habit of comparing ourselves to Christ and NOT to each other, all this " perfect " non-sense would stop.
 
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if we could ever get into the habit of comparing ourselves to Christ and NOT to each other, all this " perfect " non-sense would stop.
Never mind the fact that most want to leave out a few verses that go to the whole heart matter

1 John 5

[SUP]17[/SUP]All unrighteousness is sin, and there is a sin not unto death.


Romans 3

[SUP]22 [/SUP]This righteousness is given through faith in[SUP][h][/SUP] Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, [SUP]23 [/SUP]for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, [SUP]24 [/SUP]and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.


Deuteronomy 25

[SUP]16 [/SUP]For all that do such things, and all that do unrighteously, are an abomination unto the Lord thy God.

Houston we have a problem. Those verses put ALL of us in the very same boat. And all unrighteous is SIN Guess what God says ALL that do unrighteously are AN ABOMINATION unto the Lord. That means there is NO DIFFERENCE between us.
 

Zmouth

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Gal 4:4
But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,

Under the law means male and female, but if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. [Gal 5:18] And in such we know that Jesus had a biological mother and father but as the law says that a man and his wife shall be one flesh, then pray tell, how does one that one flesh bring forth new life unless the Holy Ghost {Spirit and Word}, who is the Son of God being the MAN made the WOMAN [male and female] then do you say that God had incest with one of his children to bring forth the man called Christ Jesus.

If the Gospel be hid it is hid to them that are lost.
 
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Our purpose is to glorify the "NAME" of God. His name is all who He is. Glorifying His name is a representation of His character and who He is. Those who evade that incentive, and make excuses, are not in covenant with God.
 
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Oh boy! Another thread of conviction and division!
 

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Why wasn't a thread started about "driving over the speed limit is a
sin?
That's actually a pretty good idea seeing as how Rom 13:1-5, Titus 3:1, and
1Pet 2:13-15 condemn civil disobedience; which includes J-walking, road
rage, coasting through stop signs, running red lights, unsafe lane changes,
feeding parking meters, double parking, failure to yield the right of way,
illegal U-turns, tail-gating, trespassing, walking a dog unleashed, blocking
the entrance to a legitimate business, disturbing the peace, etc.

Those kinds of sins are far more prevalent than LGBT, yet nobody seems to
think it especially important to single them out.

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God makes a covenant with all sinners: "He who believes will have eternal life."

Period. No hoops to jump through, no exclusionary clauses, no fine print.

Get over yourself.
Yes that covenant is with sinners. The covenant rainbow is not with the sin of homosexuality though.