Mish-mash of topics

[MyLighthouse]

1. I agree. Many people that are emotional about something don't really listen. Like arguments, if they would listen to each other instead of yelling (being emotional) a lot of misunderstanding, anger and hard feelings would fade. (soft answer turns away wrath or even better, quick to listen slow to speak)

2. It's not making full sense because you didn't finish the verse. It says "But God is faithful" we can trust God to show us the way out. Yet we as James writes, must first submit to God and second resist the devil. So in essence we can't stand fight the battle on our own, we are to lean on God, He is our strength. As you said we choose to, but God has given us the ability so we don't have to.
3. Struggling with this concept but I do know this verse is true and Jesus was striped so we could be healed. Healing is just as easy as salvation is, you got to want it and realize that you can have it, after that all you need to do is accept it. So it's available but we must choose to access that. Your right that God gave us physicians
and therapist and such, but that's because He knew our faith was small.​

4. The bible says not to be anxious, but to pray. Stress is never a good thing for me and I don't see how it's ever not a bad thing. Sin is sin. If your stressed and get angry towards someone, you ask for forgiveness from them and God. And shouldn't excuse it by saying I was stressed or I have issues. Yes you were stressed, yes you may have issues, that's why you pray.

5. I'm not really understand the question

6. Hum, where's the scripture that says this? If there's none that's a man standard not God's.

 

[JFSurvivor]

1. I agree. Many people that are emotional about something don't really listen. Like arguments, if they would listen to each other instead of yelling (being emotional) a lot of misunderstanding, anger and hard feelings would fade. (soft answer turns away wrath or even better, quick to listen slow to speak)

2. It's not making full sense because you didn't finish the verse. It says "But God is faithful" we can trust God to show us the way out. Yet we as James writes, must first submit to God and second resist the devil. So in essence we can't stand fight the battle on our own, we are to lean on God, He is our strength. As you said we choose to, but God has given us the ability so we don't have to.
3. Struggling with this concept but I do know this verse is true and Jesus was striped so we could be healed. Healing is just as easy as salvation is, you got to want it and realize that you can have it, after that all you need to do is accept it. So it's available but we must choose to access that. Your right that God gave us physicians
and therapist and such, but that's because He knew our faith was small.​

4. The bible says not to be anxious, but to pray. Stress is never a good thing for me and I don't see how it's ever not a bad thing. Sin is sin. If your stressed and get angry towards someone, you ask for forgiveness from them and God. And shouldn't excuse it by saying I was stressed or I have issues. Yes you were stressed, yes you may have issues, that's why you pray.

5. I'm not really understand the question

6. Hum, where's the scripture that says this? If there's none that's a man standard not God's.

1) Don't you sometimes need emotions to listen and understand though? I get that emotions can't be good when everyone is angry but what about empathy??

2) My question was: is it possible to be perfect like Jesus? Like can we go our entire lives after getting saved without NEEDING forgiveness?

3) So if I go to therapy I have little faith???

4) A little stress can be a good thing. It can get you motivated to get things done. A lot of stress is bad. I guess I can't see it that way because I have such bad anxiety and I get really stressed really easily and that can lead to some sin and it's not always in my control. I try not to say mean things but I know self control is a big thing in the bible and don't always have that due to my condition. I have melt-downs, I have panic attacks and I can't help that. Are panic attacks and melt downs sinful?

5) When I was going to that church I would say "you don't understand" a lot because they didn't. I was abused and I was just learning about that abuse and they didn't understand what that was like. They thought I was using the phrase "you don't understand" as an exsuse for refusing their version of help witch was for me to just "get over it"

6) huh?

 

[psychomom]

Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort,
who comforts us in all our affliction so that we will be able to comfort those who are in any affliction with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God.
For just as the sufferings of Christ are ours in abundance, so also our comfort is abundant through Christ. (2 Cor 1:2-5)

grace and peace to you, dear JF, from God our Father and our Lord Jesus.

may you be greatly comforted. ♥

 

[JFSurvivor]

Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort,
who comforts us in all our affliction so that we will be able to comfort those who are in any affliction with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God.
For just as the sufferings of Christ are ours in abundance, so also our comfort is abundant through Christ. (2 Cor 1:2-5)

grace and peace to you, dear JF, from God our Father and our Lord Jesus.

may you be greatly comforted. ♥

Thank you :,)

 

[zoii]

So I was reading in my "Jesus Journal" (as I like to call it) and I came across some stuff that interested me. Here's some background before we get in to the actual Bible part of this post: You may have seen me refrence a church by the name of ICOC on here. Well while I was going there they wrote some notes in my journal. Some of these notes I took and some they took.That is what I am bringing in to question today. It's going to cover a lot of random topic so bear with me.

Anything in this font I have taken directly from my notebook.

1) "Emotions can stand in the way of listening well"
What do you think of this statement?

2)"No temptation has seized you except what is common to man." 1 Corinthians 10:13
Can someone please explain this verse to me? I came across it and the notes alluded to the fact that you can stand under ANY temptation. But that makes no sense because we are sinners and if we could stand up under sin where is the need for Jesus then? Yes we don't have to be subject to sin but sometimes as humans we choose to because of our hearts and because we live in a fallen world...even Christians. Those are my thoughts on the subject. What are yours?

3) "For nothing is impossible with God." Luke 1:37
ex) Jess's friend has bipolar and anorexia --> beat it with Jesus and the Bible.
This is something that drives me up a wall. People are like "Oh you're on medication? You're going to therapy? Well then you're not completely trusting in Jesus to save you." I feel like it's the same as a physical injury. If you were to one day start coughing up blood you wouldn't sit there and think "God will save me." No you go to the hospital. How is mental health any different? I am honestly curious about this.

4) Don't excuse sin because of stress.
In my notes it explains how Saul was put in a stressful situation and ended up sinning. I guess I don't really understand this because a) stress isn't always a bad thing and b) stress doesn't always lead to sin. So stress can lead to people acting irrational or saying things they don't mean. Is that considered sin and can it be controlled by everyone, even the mentally ill? I don't think it always can but I feel like everyone is different so it depends on their mental health.

5) Don't use the excuse "you don't understand" Look for Gods way out. People can help without understanding.
This one makes me really angry. "You don't understand" is not an excuse. It is a fact of life. either you do or you don't understand. If you do then you have a little mental tool box in your head of how to help. If not you're lacking that toolbox. Thoughts?

That's all I have so far. All in all a lot of the notes seem to over-simplify Christianity and life in general. Life is not simple, neither is Christianity. There is a lot of complexities to it because we have a complex God. God is complex yet simple. That's how complex He is!!! So how can we say "Just do this and you'll be ok" when clearly that's not how it is at all?

There will probably be more either in this thread or another.

Thanks!

I especially like #3

 

[JFSurvivor]

I especially like #3

What are your thoughts?

 

[MyLighthouse]

1) Don't you sometimes need emotions to listen and understand though? I get that emotions can't be good when everyone is angry but what about empathy??

2) My question was: is it possible to be perfect like Jesus? Like can we go our entire lives after getting saved without NEEDING forgiveness?

3) So if I go to therapy I have little faith???

4) A little stress can be a good thing. It can get you motivated to get things done. A lot of stress is bad. I guess I can't see it that way because I have such bad anxiety and I get really stressed really easily and that can lead to some sin and it's not always in my control. I try not to say mean things but I know self control is a big thing in the bible and don't always have that due to my condition. I have melt-downs, I have panic attacks and I can't help that. Are panic attacks and melt downs sinful?

5) When I was going to that church I would say "you don't understand" a lot because they didn't. I was abused and I was just learning about that abuse and they didn't understand what that was like. They thought I was using the phrase "you don't understand" as an exsuse for refusing their version of help witch was for me to just "get over it"

6) huh?

1. I take emotional to always mean bad. But to have a emotion no. I agree that being able to empathize and love, etc. are emotions that are good, that's where listen before you speak comes into play. Someone who's able to listen to a situation. I guess what I'm saying is selfish emotions, not considering others or the circumstance cause deaf ears

2. No way. We strive for it, but we want be perfect until we receive our new bodies

3. Yep. All a person has to do is accept it as I said. Don't' sweat it though, the disciples were on a boat in a horrible storm and Jesus told them they had little faith. Not many have that kind of faith. If you don't have faith that God can heal you, you better run to help!

4. The Bible says not to be anxious about anything but in everything prayer and supplication make your request known to God. We are suppose to trust God, discipline our minds to Him. Not our worries and stresses, the Bible says only when we put God in our minds will we have peace. You can be angry and not sin, depends on what you say and how you act if it's sinful

5. I don't think that phrase is an excuse, it's the truth

6. I'm asking if there's a scripture for #6, if not then it's not biblical

 

[JFSurvivor]

1. I take emotional to always mean bad. But to have a emotion no. I agree that being able to empathize and love, etc. are emotions that are good, that's where listen before you speak comes into play. Someone who's able to listen to a situation. I guess what I'm saying is selfish emotions, not considering others or the circumstance cause deaf ears

2. No way. We strive for it, but we want be perfect until we receive our new bodies

3. Yep. All a person has to do is accept it as I said. Don't' sweat it though, the disciples were on a boat in a horrible storm and Jesus told them they had little faith. Not many have that kind of faith. If you don't have faith that God can heal you, you better run to help!

4. The Bible says not to be anxious about anything but in everything prayer and supplication make your request known to God. We are suppose to trust God, discipline our minds to Him. Not our worries and stresses, the Bible says only when we put God in our minds will we have peace. You can be angry and not sin, depends on what you say and how you act if it's sinful

5. I don't think that phrase is an excuse, it's the truth

6. I'm asking if there's a scripture for #6, if not then it's not biblical

1) Why do you take emotional to always be bad?

2) ok...could you explain a bit more?

3) Without my meds I'm basically suicidal so I CAN'T focus on God I have to focus on not killing myself. So how and why on earth would you say something like that? If you got your arm cut off would you just wait for God to come save you? How is mental illness different??

4) hmmm...that kinda makes sense.

6) I don't know if there's scripture. I don't think there is....

 

[MyLighthouse]

1) Why do you take emotional to always be bad?

2) ok...could you explain a bit more?

3) Without my meds I'm basically suicidal so I CAN'T focus on God I have to focus on not killing myself. So how and why on earth would you say something like that? If you got your arm cut off would you just wait for God to come save you? How is mental illness different??

4) hmmm...that kinda makes sense.

6) I don't know if there's scripture. I don't think there is....

1. Emotional= Emo in my brain is why, haha

2. We can't be without sin in this life, but we are to strive to be holy and perfect as God is. God wants us to be like Jesus, but knows that we can't be Jesus. We have the Holy Spirit to help us to be like Jesus to walk a godly life. But we do have a fleshly body and that gets in the way, but as we grow in God it gets weaker and even dies in areas of our lives.

3. I'm saying it's little faith because it is. Fact is God can deliver us from anything, He made us. It's like a lump of clay that falls off the spinner, all the potter has to do is put it back and it will be whole. Same for it us. Jesus was striped, wiped, beaten so we could live under mental illnesses and cancer and sickness...no the scripture says so we could be healed. What if you didn't have the money for the meds? What if you can't go to the doctor because it paided for abortions and transgender operations? You would have no other option but to trust God. God doesn't want to be the last option. How would you feel if you could help someone struggling, if your Son was beat for that person struggling, but instead of coming to you they go to other people, other things that only cover the issue not take it away like you can. That's God's view. I have tons of the Great Physician testimonies if you'd like to hear them (no missing arm ones, but do have an eye one

6. Then you have no reason to believe it

 

[ctc1989]

I can relate to everything stated on this thread so far, I can relate most with number 1 and 3 from the op. I find when I'm emotional About something, whether it be positive or negative, I tune a lot of things out and I'm unable to relate or 'listen' to anyone or anything. Regards to (3) I think God can give people guidance, and lay out the path they need. I like the broken bones analogy. From my experience God has helped me when I was in my lowest places, he led me to get the help I needed at that moment in time. Whether the help I needed was medication, (when i was younger b/c trauma). Or whether it was someone that I needed to talk to (friend, lover, family). He seemed to know the type of guidance I needed. Each person has individual needs, everyone is different. Maybe in some cases going to church is exactly what the person needs, but in another case someone may need medication, in another maybe someone needs someone to talk to, in another case maybe someone needs a combination of medication, church/faith, and someone to talk to. From my experience God try's to never burden with someone with more than they can handle. People are much stronger than they think.

Life is a journey. God gives people the help they really need, and it can come in many different forms (as stated above). Certain things work for certain people. The help someone needs at 15 is different from the help they need at 20, and is different from what they need at 25. When I was younger I needed someone to talk to, and God led me to a great therapist who helped me me with a combination of meds and discussion about what I went through, he blessed me with someone who I felt very comfortable with and trusted, and I was able to come to terms with the loss that I went through.

Now the type of help I need is spiritual instead of medical or psychological, he has blessed me with faith in him, and the love he provides to me. He knows the exact time and type of help that people need, and he gives to us accordingly. We just have to ask

That's my opinion on it. This is my experience, others may have different opinions and that's ok, he blessed us with free will

 

[secularhermit]

Hi light house!

Your point 2).

If we can´t live without sinning, why Jesus wasted His time telling ppl "do not sin" ?

I bet we can, we can (or I can).

 

[MyLighthouse]

Hi light house!

Your point 2).

If we can´t live without sinning, why Jesus wasted His time telling ppl "do not sin" ?

I bet we can, we can (or I can).

Haha, your joking right?

If not:
I think it's like the 613 Laws God gave or even the 10 God wrote, God likes standards, Jesus was giving us a standard...maybe I'm wrong I haven't been saved long enough to even be close to sinless, I'm striving for it though

 

[JFSurvivor]

1. Emotional= Emo in my brain is why, haha

2. We can't be without sin in this life, but we are to strive to be holy and perfect as God is. God wants us to be like Jesus, but knows that we can't be Jesus. We have the Holy Spirit to help us to be like Jesus to walk a godly life. But we do have a fleshly body and that gets in the way, but as we grow in God it gets weaker and even dies in areas of our lives.

3. I'm saying it's little faith because it is. Fact is God can deliver us from anything, He made us. It's like a lump of clay that falls off the spinner, all the potter has to do is put it back and it will be whole. Same for it us. Jesus was striped, wiped, beaten so we could live under mental illnesses and cancer and sickness...no the scripture says so we could be healed. What if you didn't have the money for the meds? What if you can't go to the doctor because it paided for abortions and transgender operations? You would have no other option but to trust God. God doesn't want to be the last option. How would you feel if you could help someone struggling, if your Son was beat for that person struggling, but instead of coming to you they go to other people, other things that only cover the issue not take it away like you can. That's God's view. I have tons of the Great Physician testimonies if you'd like to hear them (no missing arm ones, but do have an eye one

6. Then you have no reason to believe it

I still can't agree with #3. When people are sick God doesn't always heal everyone. You can pray and pray and pray and your grandma with cancer or friend with cancer is still gonna die without chemo. Same with mental illness.

I believe that God has actually given me a gift for therapy. There's a long story behind that but anyway I just found this out today and I'm really proud of myself and thankful to God that he blessed me with this. Therapy is more than just medication and it's more than just talking about your problems. It's about getting people to a place where they can fully understand Gods goodness. You can't see Gods goodness when you're suicidal, you can't see God's goodness when you're self harming. You can't see Gods goodness when you're starving yourself or throwing up. You just can't. I have had experience with this. I remember when I would cut myself I felt I had no other option because God wasn't showing up. I begged him to and he didn't. He didn't take away my pain, he didn't put me in my right mind and he didn't stop me from cutting. I NEEDED to get to a better state mentally so I could see Him for what he is: good. I needed the therapy so that I could understand that even with the cutting he was there and it was evil forces that were making me miserable. I needed therapy to show me that I didn't have to beat myself up 24/7 over my cutting because of what the Bible said.

 

[valiant]

Anything in this font I have taken directly from my notebook.

1) "Emotions can stand in the way of listening well"
What do you think of this statement?

Emotions can stand in the way of lots of things. But we are emotional creatures. (If only we were all like Spock lol). What we have to do is control them. When we are upset we do not think at out best.

2)"No temptation has seized you except what is common to man." 1 Corinthians 10:13
Can someone please explain this verse to me? I came across it and the notes alluded to the fact that you can stand under ANY temptation. But that makes no sense because we are sinners and if we could stand up under sin where is the need for Jesus then? Yes we don't have to be subject to sin but sometimes as humans we choose to because of our hearts and because we live in a fallen world...even Christians. Those are my thoughts on the subject. What are yours?

Read the whole passage. None of us are tempted in ways that no one else has been tempted in. Our temptations are duplicated time and again in others. But Paul's point is that GOD (JESUS) is able in all cases to strengthen us to resist temptation and to make a way by which we can bear it. If we all listened to God all the time and always responded to Him as we should we would never sin. Unfortunately we are sinners and do not do so. But Paul's assurance is that if we walk in the Spirit sin will not have dominion over us. We must learn to walk step by step in the Spirit (Gal 5.24)

3) "For nothing is impossible with God." Luke 1:37
ex) Jess's friend has bipolar and anorexia --> beat it with Jesus and the Bible.
This is something that drives me up a wall. People are like "Oh you're on medication? You're going to therapy? Well then you're not completely trusting in Jesus to save you." I feel like it's the same as a physical injury. If you were to one day start coughing up blood you wouldn't sit there and think "God will save me." No you go to the hospital. How is mental health any different? I am honestly curious about this.

These illnesses are mainly due to dopamine deficiency and destroyed brain cells. They are physical illnesses. We have to face up to them as we face up to all illnesses, by trusting Christ to help us in them and through them. We can of course pray to be healed. But God does not in most cases heal in this way. Most are called on to endure.

 

[Jesus4ever]

3) "For nothing is impossible with God." Luke 1:37
ex) Jess's friend has bipolar and anorexia --> beat it with Jesus and the Bible.
This is something that drives me up a wall. People are like "Oh you're on medication? You're going to therapy? Well then you're not completely trusting in Jesus to save you." I feel like it's the same as a physical injury. If you were to one day start coughing up blood you wouldn't sit there and think "God will save me." No you go to the hospital. How is mental health any different? I am honestly curious about this.

I totally agree with your view. God gives us tools to help us go though injuries and worse than physical problems are psychological problems. Depression is a serious thing and psychiatrists are very important in order to help people suffering from those type of problems. We all stumble and sometimes we fail in our strengths and faith, as this life as many bad things to deal with.

 

[DiscipleDave]

So I was reading in my "Jesus Journal" (as I like to call it) and I came across some stuff that interested me. Here's some background before we get in to the actual Bible part of this post: You may have seen me refrence a church by the name of ICOC on here. Well while I was going there they wrote some notes in my journal. Some of these notes I took and some they took.That is what I am bringing in to question today. It's going to cover a lot of random topic so bear with me.

Anything in this font I have taken directly from my notebook.

1) "Emotions can stand in the way of listening well"
What do you think of this statement?

i think it is True. For example, someone has done you wrong, and that person comes up and starts talking to you, your thinking is on what that person has done to you, your emotions may be one of anger, resentment, vindictiveness, vengeance, or the such, all the while not hearing that person is trying to apologize to you in some way.

2)"No temptation has seized you except what is common to man." 1 Corinthians 10:13
Can someone please explain this verse to me? I came across it and the notes alluded to the fact that you can stand under ANY temptation. But that makes no sense because we are sinners and if we could stand up under sin where is the need for Jesus then? Yes we don't have to be subject to sin but sometimes as humans we choose to because of our hearts and because we live in a fallen world...even Christians. Those are my thoughts on the subject. What are yours?

Scriptures teach, that every temptation that comes upon a person it is not so strong that you can't handle it, and with every temptation that comes upon you, Jesus Christ allows a path out of that temptation. The problem is people do not look to Jesus to help them overcome that temptation, because they believe some false doctrine that teaches they don't have to overcome their sins, they are going to commit sins all the time because their flesh is weak or live in a fallen world. You say " if we could stand up under sin where is the need for Jesus then?" No person can stand up to sin, without the help of Jesus Christ. i could not live as i do (i do not knowingly and willingly commit any sins against Jesus) without the help of Jesus Christ, i could not do it without Him. When i am tempted to commit a sin, i look to Jesus, i pray, i go read the Bible, i look to Jesus to give me His Strength and Power to overcome that temptation, i look for the path out of that temptation which the Word of God says is there and given to me by Jesus. EVERY temptation that comes upon a person, is not so powerful they can't overcome it, and with EVERY temptation Jesus allows a path out of it. Therefore look to Jesus to help you find that path and you will find it, and indeed overcome that temptation. But the problem is with this generation which would rather just sin and repent, sin and repent, sin and repent, sin and repent, sin and repent, sin and repent, sin and repent, sin and repent, sin and repent, sin and repent, sin and repent, sin and repent, sin and repent, AND never look to Jesus for help in overcoming that particular sin, therefore continue to live in their sins, without ever ceasing from them.

3) "For nothing is impossible with God." Luke 1:37
ex) Jess's friend has bipolar and anorexia --> beat it with Jesus and the Bible.
This is something that drives me up a wall. People are like "Oh you're on medication? You're going to therapy? Well then you're not completely trusting in Jesus to save you." I feel like it's the same as a physical injury. If you were to one day start coughing up blood you wouldn't sit there and think "God will save me." No you go to the hospital. How is mental health any different? I am honestly curious about this.

There is nothing wrong with medication despite what false teachers teach today. Jesus showed us that medication is OK, when he took mud from the Earth and His spit and made an ointment to put on the blind mans eyes and the man could see again. Why did Jesus do that, when He could have merely said "SEE" and the man would have seen? He did that to show us that taking things of the Earth combined with Faith is acceptable with God. Most medicines come from things of the Earth, so medication mixed with Faith is acceptable with God.

You say " I feel like it's the same as a physical injury. If you were to one day start coughing up blood you wouldn't sit there and think "God will save me." reminds me of this parable.

There is a Flood coming, and a cop comes up to this old mans house and says "I am here to take you to safety, a flood is coming." The old man refuses saying "God is going to save me". The old man is now standing on his porch and the water is up to his neck, a boat comes along and says "Get in, i am here to save you" the old man replies "God is going to save me" and does not get in the boat. Now the old man is standing on the peek of his roof of his house water to his waste. A helicopter comes over him, saying "climb up the ladder, i am here to save you" the old man replies. "God is going to save me miraculously" and does not climb the rope. The old man drowns. Standing before God he says "God why did you let me die, i thought you were going to save me" and God replies "I sent you a cop, a boat, and a helicopter, and you refused them all, so you died."

God has ALWAYS worked through people to serve His Purpose. God can and does work through Doctors, Therapists, and the such, Anyone who says or teaches otherwise, does not know the TRUTH.

4) Don't excuse sin because of stress.
In my notes it explains how Saul was put in a stressful situation and ended up sinning. I guess I don't really understand this because a) stress isn't always a bad thing and b) stress doesn't always lead to sin. So stress can lead to people acting irrational or saying things they don't mean. Is that considered sin and can it be controlled by everyone, even the mentally ill? I don't think it always can but I feel like everyone is different so it depends on their mental health.

There is only ONE excuse for sin, and that is not realizing or understanding that you are committing that sin. Sins done in ignorance. These are called "Sins not unto Death" The mentally challenge, most of the time do not realize they are committing a sin when they are committing it. Children are another who commit sins not realizing they are doing so, and the elderly who are suffering from some form of mental illness are in the same boat. But all others sins, there is NO EXCUSE FOR.

5) Don't use the excuse "you don't understand" Look for Gods way out. People can help without understanding.
This one makes me really angry. "You don't understand" is not an excuse. It is a fact of life. either you do or you don't understand. If you do then you have a little mental tool box in your head of how to help. If not you're lacking that toolbox. Thoughts?

Please excuse my ignorance on number 5, i do not understand what it is your asking here, lol i just realized i used the excuse of not understanding, don't know if that is good or bad, because i do not understand the question.

That's all I have so far. All in all a lot of the notes seem to over-simplify Christianity and life in general. Life is not simple, neither is Christianity. There is a lot of complexities to it because we have a complex God. God is complex yet simple. That's how complex He is!!! So how can we say "Just do this and you'll be ok" when clearly that's not how it is at all?

i understand what you are saying here and somewhat agree. However i do know that there is one thing you can DO and everything will be OK, although doing that ONE THING is not simple, and is very difficult to do, and that one thing is to: LOVE ONE ANOTHER. Love covers a multitude of sins. God is LOVE. So all one needs to do is to LOVE ONE ANOTHER, even your enemies and those that hate you. Truly all Christians that LOVE ONE ANOTHER will be accepted into Heaven. Now doing that is what is difficult to do. especially in the world today. Your driving the speed limit, and someone is riding your bumper, honking, flashing his lights. Then passes you flipping you the bird cussing at you, only to see him in the gas station a few minutes later getting a coffee in no hurry at all, and i am suppose to LOVE him? Yes i am, and do. Yes it is not easy, but here is good news, the more you do it, the easier it is to do. So one day if God deems me worthy to die for Him, and a man holds a gun to my head asking me if i believe in Jesus, i will say "i forgive you friend, and yes i do believe Jesus is the Son of God". Being killed for Jesus Christ, i can't think of a better way to go, than that.

^i^ Responding to OP

 

[DiscipleDave]

I found another one!! (This kinda goes with #1)

6) God looks at it as disobedience when we turn to our feelings.

​Thoughts?

That depends on what feelings we are talking about, feelings of Compassion for another is a Good feeling. But feelings of lust is not a Good feeling but a bad one.

^i^ Responding to POST # 2

 

[JFSurvivor]

i think it is True. For example, someone has done you wrong, and that person comes up and starts talking to you, your thinking is on what that person has done to you, your emotions may be one of anger, resentment, vindictiveness, vengeance, or the such, all the while not hearing that person is trying to apologize to you in some way.



Scriptures teach, that every temptation that comes upon a person it is not so strong that you can't handle it, and with every temptation that comes upon you, Jesus Christ allows a path out of that temptation. The problem is people do not look to Jesus to help them overcome that temptation, because they believe some false doctrine that teaches they don't have to overcome their sins, they are going to commit sins all the time because their flesh is weak or live in a fallen world. You say " if we could stand up under sin where is the need for Jesus then?" No person can stand up to sin, without the help of Jesus Christ. i could not live as i do (i do not knowingly and willingly commit any sins against Jesus) without the help of Jesus Christ, i could not do it without Him. When i am tempted to commit a sin, i look to Jesus, i pray, i go read the Bible, i look to Jesus to give me His Strength and Power to overcome that temptation, i look for the path out of that temptation which the Word of God says is there and given to me by Jesus. EVERY temptation that comes upon a person, is not so powerful they can't overcome it, and with EVERY temptation Jesus allows a path out of it. Therefore look to Jesus to help you find that path and you will find it, and indeed overcome that temptation. But the problem is with this generation which would rather just sin and repent, sin and repent, sin and repent, sin and repent, sin and repent, sin and repent, sin and repent, sin and repent, sin and repent, sin and repent, sin and repent, sin and repent, sin and repent, AND never look to Jesus for help in overcoming that particular sin, therefore continue to live in their sins, without ever ceasing from them.



There is nothing wrong with medication despite what false teachers teach today. Jesus showed us that medication is OK, when he took mud from the Earth and His spit and made an ointment to put on the blind mans eyes and the man could see again. Why did Jesus do that, when He could have merely said "SEE" and the man would have seen? He did that to show us that taking things of the Earth combined with Faith is acceptable with God. Most medicines come from things of the Earth, so medication mixed with Faith is acceptable with God.

You say " I feel like it's the same as a physical injury. If you were to one day start coughing up blood you wouldn't sit there and think "God will save me." reminds me of this parable.

There is a Flood coming, and a cop comes up to this old mans house and says "I am here to take you to safety, a flood is coming." The old man refuses saying "God is going to save me". The old man is now standing on his porch and the water is up to his neck, a boat comes along and says "Get in, i am here to save you" the old man replies "God is going to save me" and does not get in the boat. Now the old man is standing on the peek of his roof of his house water to his waste. A helicopter comes over him, saying "climb up the ladder, i am here to save you" the old man replies. "God is going to save me miraculously" and does not climb the rope. The old man drowns. Standing before God he says "God why did you let me die, i thought you were going to save me" and God replies "I sent you a cop, a boat, and a helicopter, and you refused them all, so you died."

God has ALWAYS worked through people to serve His Purpose. God can and does work through Doctors, Therapists, and the such, Anyone who says or teaches otherwise, does not know the TRUTH.



There is only ONE excuse for sin, and that is not realizing or understanding that you are committing that sin. Sins done in ignorance. These are called "Sins not unto Death" The mentally challenge, most of the time do not realize they are committing a sin when they are committing it. Children are another who commit sins not realizing they are doing so, and the elderly who are suffering from some form of mental illness are in the same boat. But all others sins, there is NO EXCUSE FOR.



Please excuse my ignorance on number 5, i do not understand what it is your asking here, lol i just realized i used the excuse of not understanding, don't know if that is good or bad, because i do not understand the question.



i understand what you are saying here and somewhat agree. However i do know that there is one thing you can DO and everything will be OK, although doing that ONE THING is not simple, and is very difficult to do, and that one thing is to: LOVE ONE ANOTHER. Love covers a multitude of sins. God is LOVE. So all one needs to do is to LOVE ONE ANOTHER, even your enemies and those that hate you. Truly all Christians that LOVE ONE ANOTHER will be accepted into Heaven. Now doing that is what is difficult to do. especially in the world today. Your driving the speed limit, and someone is riding your bumper, honking, flashing his lights. Then passes you flipping you the bird cussing at you, only to see him in the gas station a few minutes later getting a coffee in no hurry at all, and i am suppose to LOVE him? Yes i am, and do. Yes it is not easy, but here is good news, the more you do it, the easier it is to do. So one day if God deems me worthy to die for Him, and a man holds a gun to my head asking me if i believe in Jesus, i will say "i forgive you friend, and yes i do believe Jesus is the Son of God". Being killed for Jesus Christ, i can't think of a better way to go, than that.

^i^ Responding to OP

#5 a lot of people seemed to have trouble with. When I was going to ICOC I was dealing with what happened to me. They didn't understand and I told them so. They thought I was using it as an exscuse.

 

[jsr1221]

It is impossible to not have feelings. When we see a joyous event like a baptism, it's hard not to be happy and celebrate. When something bad happens to us, it's hard not to be angry or even sad about it. The Bible even states it's okay to be angry as long as we don't ain. God didn't design robots. He designed human beings that have feelings and emotions. I think it's okay to get down on our knees and just yell or cry out to God, because it's usually in those times we need to go to Him the most. I don't think much would be accomplished if we were all monotone robotics.

 

[JFSurvivor]

It is impossible to not have feelings. When we see a joyous event like a baptism, it's hard not to be happy and celebrate. When something bad happens to us, it's hard not to be angry or even sad about it. The Bible even states it's okay to be angry as long as we don't ain. God didn't design robots. He designed human beings that have feelings and emotions. I think it's okay to get down on our knees and just yell or cry out to God, because it's usually in those times we need to go to Him the most. I don't think much would be accomplished if we were all monotone robotics.

So feelings are ok as long as we don't sin. Is there a verse for that?