Our place on this earth. Our place in the Kingdom to come. What does it mean to you?

[JosiahUntoTheChrist]

These are questions for you. I understand the part our King Jesus the Christ commands us to take, what I want to see is biblical understanding being at the forefront of what shapes our views. In the hope that some will change their view from a personal one to a Kingdom one.

1. Politically how involved should we be in world matters?

2. Are we called to war or are we called to defend our nation? does this mean going into other nations territory or defending our territory on home soil? (Jesus speaks to a soldier and speaks about governments, look it up for the answer)

3. Is abortion okay and is it okay for christians to have abortions? Is it okay for us protest outside abortion clinics or should we be approaching people in love on a one on one basis hoping to lead them in righteous love.

4. Should we protest against all sin or just certain sins, and is protesting worth it or is personal connection a better way to go about it. If so is protesting lazy and a horrible way of pointing out sin. If so should we use a platform in the hopes of sharing the love of Christ or exposing the sin of those people. Should we lead people to Christ or away from Christ.

Bonus round

5. Should every Quran in the world be burned, deleted from internet or is it safe teaching?

6. Do you believe ISIS are just a group or are they following the commands of Mohammad?

7. Can you effectively lead a person to Christ, seeing as most are atheist, please demonstrate your technique of undermining Evolution/Atheism and leading them to Christ.

 

[just-me]

1. Politically how involved should we be in world matters?

“Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:” Matthew 28:19
Politics will always be in world affairs. We are in this world and should have influence by presenting God's righteous judgments accordingly. Today's church desires to teach that these righteous judgments were only for the ancient nation of Israel. This rejection has caused chaos to reign worldwide today. It's in our face, and most Christians are taught to turn a blind eye to it.

2. Are we called to war or are we called to defend our nation? does this mean going into other nations territory or defending our territory on home soil? (Jesus speaks to a soldier and speaks about governments, look it up for the answer)

“The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.” Romans 13:12
As he sun illuminates the light to the moon shedding light on the darkness of night, so we are to shed light on the darkness of the world by reflecting the light of the Son. Defending a nation that has become corrupt because the church refused to be involved brings judgment on both the nation and the church.
“For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?” 1 Peter 4:17


I'll post more later

 

[just-me]

3. Is abortion okay and is it okay for Christians to have abortions? Is it okay for us protest outside abortion clinics or should we be approaching people in love on a one on one basis hoping to lead them in righteous love.

“Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.” Jeremiah 1:5

Aborting a conceived embryo is murder and contrary to the 6[SUP]th[/SUP] commandment.
The first amendment of the United States Constitution gives the right to protests and demonstration

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

As we can see, this has nothing to do with a “separation of church ad state.” it is actually opposite. If we suck into this misconception as Christians, we have little or no influence in the world. Our light has been extinguished, and that is what the adversary desires.

I'll post more later

 

[PeterJens]

These are questions for you.

Lol - This is a right wing agenda wind-up

If anyone can answer these questions in a short meaningful way they are lying. So why are you asking?

 

[JosiahUntoTheChrist]

Lol - This is a right wing agenda wind-up

If anyone can answer these questions in a short meaningful way they are lying. So why are you asking?

What is right wing agenda? I'm trying to establish biblical understanding on some important matters. Many of these questions can be answered in short and don't require books to be written for each topic.

 

[JosiahUntoTheChrist]

I think most of your answer is right on except I'm not so sure if you are saying protesting is the best method of stopping the person from having an abortion. Alot of the time a personal approach has more impact than shouting "No More Abortion, Stop killing babies".

We see the Christ demonstrate a personal approach with the adulterous woman and many other occasions, what this type of interaction allows for is a back and forth communication that they won't hear in the clinic. I think that there should be more evangelists and mothers who can speak to these girls about what their about to do and how much love their missing out on when having a child along with the Gospel.

 

[PeterJens]

What is right wing agenda? I'm trying to establish biblical understanding on some important matters. Many of these questions can be answered in short and don't require books to be written for each topic.

Should christians be involved in politics. Yes but not as christians but as citizens. Christians range from the left and right wings, with many in the middle undecided. Most do not like the compromises involved and the need to exagurate and distort things to get things done, which a lot of politicians end up doing.

There are now groups in the church who believe we as christians should take over and dominate the agenda, create a kind of theocracy, with "prophets" and "apostles" in charge, who are actually self appointed.

Now looking back over history you will find this is mixing church and state, which has a long history in Europe and led to much social conflict.

Now I could go on, and this is just question 1.

 

[just-me]

I think most of your answer is right on except I'm not so sure if you are saying protesting is the best method of stopping the person from having an abortion. Alot of the time a personal approach has more impact than shouting "No More Abortion, Stop killing babies".

We see the Christ demonstrate a personal approach with the adulterous woman and many other occasions, what this type of interaction allows for is a back and forth communication that they won't hear in the clinic. I think that there should be more evangelists and mothers who can speak to these girls about what their about to do and how much love their missing out on when having a child along with the Gospel.

It's not the best way, but I think we are beyond the point of no return. If the church would have done their job in the first place by being involved, then there would be no need to protest against abortion. We were founded on a government by the people and for the people. Not to allow corruption to have the per-eminence and calling it freedom of choice, is actually being enslaved to sin.

It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and the Bible. - George Washington

 

[just-me]

4. Should we protest against all sin or just certain sins, and is protesting worth it or is personal connection a better way to go about it. If so is protesting lazy and a horrible way of pointing out sin. If so should we use a platform in the hopes of sharing the love of Christ or exposing the sin of those people. Should we lead people to Christ or away from Christ.

The love of Christ cannot be ministered without the commandments of God that have been given for proper government. If the law is for the lawless, (and lawlessness will always be around in this world) then we, as Christians, should have influence in government as the Israelite priesthood did in the Old Covenant. This has nothing to do with salvation, but it has everything to do with government. Israel rejected God's law as the United States has through the false teachings of professing Christians, saying that the law is an adversary to salvation, and it is not to be administered even lawfully, which is against proper doctrine also.

"But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;" 1 Timothy 1:8

We will suffer the same consequence as Israel, for they were set forth to be an example to the entire world. When we willfully reject these instructions from God, given to Israel first, we lose peace, and chaos reigns. This situation is in our face, and still the church, as a whole, fails to see it because most preach against the law God gave to Moses these days.
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“Ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. Isaiah 43:10

 

[just-me]

Bonus round

5. Should every Quran in the world be burned, deleted from internet or is it safe teaching?


6. Do you believe ISIS are just a group or are they following the commands of Mohammad?


7. Can you effectively lead a person to Christ, seeing as most are atheist, please demonstrate your technique of undermining Evolution/Atheism and leading them to Christ.

Galatians 3:24-25
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

I exhort the church within this country to use it.

 

[JosiahUntoTheChrist]

Should christians be involved in politics. Yes but not as christians but as citizens. Christians range from the left and right wings, with many in the middle undecided. Most do not like the compromises involved and the need to exagurate and distort things to get things done, which a lot of politicians end up doing.

There are now groups in the church who believe we as christians should take over and dominate the agenda, create a kind of theocracy, with "prophets" and "apostles" in charge, who are actually self appointed.

Now looking back over history you will find this is mixing church and state, which has a long history in Europe and led to much social conflict.

Now I could go on, and this is just question 1.

Okay, as citizens but not christians? I see what your pointing toward but if our christianity doesn't have a fundamental place in our decision making can we actually call ourselves christians. I mean yes there is everyones opinion to take into account when running a country and this is why God has put people in charge and at the same time the Christ said we should pray for them. Would it not benefit all people if we had an actual follower of scripture in the white house, yes there would be alot of backlash but doesn't following Christ require us to be thrown to the wolves?

 

[JosiahUntoTheChrist]

It's not the best way, but I think we are beyond the point of no return. If the church would have done their job in the first place by being involved, then there would be no need to protest against abortion. We were founded on a government by the people and for the people. Not to allow corruption to have the per-eminence and calling it freedom of choice, is actually being enslaved to sin.

It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and the Bible. - George Washington

Mmm okay, so if we are at the point of no return then we should be more active in showing compassion as Christ did, as christian mothers should to their daughters who are thinking of abortion, applying this same approach to unbelievers about to enter a clinic. To have a couple mothers outside a clinic catching girls before they enter would be an ideal approach. Most girls who go to a clinic don't actually want to go through with it, so a one on one with a mother who knows Christ should drop the number of abortions by quite a number.

 

[MarcR]

These are questions for you. I understand the part our King Jesus the Christ commands us to take, what I want to see is biblical understanding being at the forefront of what shapes our views. In the hope that some will change their view from a personal one to a Kingdom one.

1. Politically how involved should we be in world matters?

IMO the task God has given us is found in MT 28:19-20. Any activity which detracts frim or distracts from this task is not our business.

2. Are we called to war or are we called to defend our nation? does this mean going into other nations territory or defending our territory on home soil? (Jesus speaks to a soldier and speaks about governments, look it up for the answer)

I would never speak against a patriotic love of country; but I believe our service to Christ should take precedence.

3. Is abortion okay and is it okay for christians to have abortions? Is it okay for us protest outside abortion clinics or should we be approaching people in love on a one on one basis hoping to lead them in righteous love.

I believe that abortion is murder. I believe that the best response to abortion is evangelism NOT political action.

4. Should we protest against all sin or just certain sins, and is protesting worth it or is personal connection a better way to go about it. If so is protesting lazy and a horrible way of pointing out sin. If so should we use a platform in the hopes of sharing the love of Christ or exposing the sin of those people. Should we lead people to Christ or away from Christ.

We are NOT called to political action! We are called to lead people to Jesus

Bonus round

5. Should every Quran in the world be burned, deleted from internet or is it safe teaching?

It is NOT safe teaching; but we are not called to book burning or political activism. We are called to persuasion, gentleness and love of enemies. There do arise times when we are required to defend ourselves but we are not called to aggression.

6. Do you believe ISIS are just a group or are they following the commands of Mohammad?

It doesn't matter. They are evil and should be stopped by all means available.

7. Can you effectively lead a person to Christ, seeing as most are atheist, please demonstrate your technique of undermining Evolution/Atheism and leading them to Christ.

I don't think that there is or can be a stock technique.

People who are not open cannot be led to faith.

People who are open need to be regarded as individuals and The Holy spirit should be permitted to work through us in His own way.

 

[SowBeeIt]

1. Politically how involved should we be in world matters?

since I believe we are in the latter years, within Revelation.
We can't change the end outcome with our political involvement.
All we can do is pray, and sow clever seeds, and pray some more.

2. NO we are NOT called to war. Though Shall NOT KILL !
Then Jesus told him, “Put your sword back in its place because all who take up a sword will perish by a sword.

3 abortion Not a nice thing. Yes the human House is knitted within the womb, with such awesome detail of creation,
and is formed to be given to a Spirit to dwell in, once the first breath is taken, the Spirit man enters.
If a human house is aborted, then it will not give form for someone to be physically born.

Since I believe we are in our latter days, which is much death and destruction.
I believe we should really be taken heed to what the bible says about these later days.
Luke 23:29 Matt 24:19 Mark 13:17-19 Luke 21:23,24
Honestly we should be praying all wombs stay barren now
and instead of women meeting girls before they go into a clinic
Should be meeting girls in mom and daughter gatherings, and teaching how to say NO

I don't believe in protesting about Sin, I think it should be a clever way to teach about Eternal life
and the understanding of the Kingdom of God, and if so desired, how to receive forgiveness and Christ.

Not our part to burn up, what another wants,
God is all about FREE WILL a
nd doesn't force or remove something because it is bad

ISIS = of course is a group that has gone rogue, and only God knows the real truth of them
Pray and more prayer is always the best answer.

7 too long an answer and its 1am, need sleep = +

 

[MattG]

1. Politically how involved should we be in world matters?

Let the world does as it does.[HR][/HR]2. Are we called to war or are we called to defend our nation? does this mean going into other nations territory or defending our territory on home soil? (Jesus speaks to a soldier and speaks about governments, look it up for the answer)

If people defend the nation by joining the Army, there is nothing wrong with that is a form of a job.
Guess if you have an intruder breaking your house and feel threatened people will bust a cap in someone more than likely, if they have a gun in their own home. Not big deal to me anyway.

[HR][/HR]3. Is abortion okay and is it okay for christians to have abortions? Is it okay for us protest outside abortion clinics or should we be approaching people in love on a one on one basis hoping to lead them in righteous love.

Why would a christian get an abortion anyway?

Wouldn't they have a changed heart by the Lord Jesus Christ?

Now for a person that is a non-believer they may choose to do so, and there is no stopping a person choice, even after you have told them to maybe keep the child, or send it for adoption, can't judge them regardless in my own eyes (people do what people do), we all have sinned. This topic never bothered me any in the least because blessed are those who never see the light of day of this evil world, they go to God.

You'll reap to your body from it being done that is for sure. As the bible says you reap what you sow to your flesh, or to the spirit...

Did you know hate is just the same thing as abortion? Oh sin you dirty ol thing you.
[HR][/HR]4. Should we protest against all sin or just certain sins, and is protesting worth it or is personal connection a better way to go about it. If so is protesting lazy and a horrible way of pointing out sin. If so should we use a platform in the hopes of sharing the love of Christ or exposing the sin of those people. Should we lead people to Christ or away from Christ.

Jesus Christ paid for all sins, so we can be set free of the bondage of sin, and we can walking freedom in our faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; being able to Love God, and Love Other people.
I don't go out protesting anything, talking about sin of others, isn't even edifying, you can encourage others to get out of the mess they are in, such a drug addictions, or any other addictions of course it's going to be a persons personal choice to finally stop it, and Jesus Christ can give them the strength to overcome.

[HR][/HR]5. Should every Quran in the world be burned, deleted from internet or is it safe teaching?

Don't really care about this that much, you know I will say this though at least it mentions the name of Jesus Christ.

[HR][/HR]6. Do you believe ISIS are just a group or are they following the commands of Mohammad?

Don't really care about this either, people do people things.

[HR][/HR]7. Can you effectively lead a person to Christ, seeing as most are atheist, please demonstrate your technique of undermining Evolution/Atheism and leading them to Christ.

You can tell anyone about God, and the Lord Jesus Christ... Even if they disagree with you can still be their friends, and love them, which is the most important, love right?

 

[MattG]

Lol, Just noticed this post was from 2015. Oh well Cheers, and God bless all

 

[Stranger36147]

Lol, Just noticed this post was from 2015. Oh well Cheers, and God bless all

 

[SowBeeIt]

Lol, Just noticed this post was from 2015. Oh well Cheers, and God bless all

OOPS New here, and some how came across this,
didn't even notice the post date area of each posting ...

but I guess when someone posts to an old thread
it bumps it up, as if it is new again ?
did I guess correctly ?

Was in an area postings called Blog,
and someone on a Blog message,
said a Thread posting get more notice ..

still don't understand the difference,
or how to find Threads from Blogs .. lol

Cherio

 

[Hungry]

These are questions for you. I understand the part our King Jesus the Christ commands us to take, what I want to see is biblical understanding being at the forefront of what shapes our views. In the hope that some will change their view from a personal one to a Kingdom one.

1. Politically how involved should we be in world matters?

2. Are we called to war or are we called to defend our nation? does this mean going into other nations territory or defending our territory on home soil? (Jesus speaks to a soldier and speaks about governments, look it up for the answer)

3. Is abortion okay and is it okay for christians to have abortions? Is it okay for us protest outside abortion clinics or should we be approaching people in love on a one on one basis hoping to lead them in righteous love.

4. Should we protest against all sin or just certain sins, and is protesting worth it or is personal connection a better way to go about it. If so is protesting lazy and a horrible way of pointing out sin. If so should we use a platform in the hopes of sharing the love of Christ or exposing the sin of those people. Should we lead people to Christ or away from Christ.

Bonus round

5. Should every Quran in the world be burned, deleted from internet or is it safe teaching?

6. Do you believe ISIS are just a group or are they following the commands of Mohammad?

7. Can you effectively lead a person to Christ, seeing as most are atheist, please demonstrate your technique of undermining Evolution/Atheism and leading them to Christ.

Everyone is blind, or at least partially blind. Even Christians must walk by faith because we can’t see the big picture. We are told to be salt and light. Salt improves flavour and preserves, and light illuminates, helping others to see. We are to love others not contest them. As soon as you tell someone they are wrong about something, human arrogance causes them to latch tighter on to that belief. No logic or rational will change the mind of someone who has made a decision to believe something else. CC has threads and threads of nasty theological debates of believers who vary only slightly in opinion. They pull every far reaching verse to back their view. Challenging others beliefs or declaring them invalid is in essence calling them stupid and ignorant. When somebody’s put time in and has made conclusions based on what they consider to be facts, everyone that disagrees with them looks stupid to that individual.

We are not called to argue. It only cements their beliefs further into their foundation. The only way to defeat an enemy, is to make him a friend. Christ wasn’t the opposer of sinners, He was/is the friend of sinners. We are His hands and feet. If someone is going to have an abortion, unless they live in a cave they already know Christians find this sinful. Picketing or screaming at them only causes them to hate Christians. Instead offer counseling to people who have had an abortion, their testimony and experience will be a voice in that demographic. Their light will shine among their peers and friends and be a more loving voice to those who might actually be contemplating it.

Politics is corrupt. Basically it is a lazy man's game. We put our faith in a personality and expect them to do what is in our best interest, instead of doing ourselves what is in our best interest. The only concern of the politician is re-election. Saying the right thing is more important than doing the right thing. For the majority, a cold beer in the fridge, something good on tv and a job to go to is the good life. The system isn’t the problem it’s the sheeple. Politics is a numbers game. Majority wins. Sad part is that the majority doesn’t care....least not until it’s too late.

Why suggest burn the Koran? Religious oppression and opposition usually strengths zeal. If we were crafty as serpents, we would send apostates into their mosques and teach their children truth just a little bit at a time. Change the meanings of a few words, a few interpretations. Make a reader friendly version. After a five or so generations they wouldn’t even recognize Mohammad, or Allah. Well....it worked for Christianity once Rome got a hold of it.