why new heavens and a new earth ?

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it seems to be that there will be the old heaven and old hell or will there be hell on the new heaven and earth - wincam
 
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Reborn

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Hell in Heaven?
Might be an oxymoron?

There might be a hell in the new hell, or hells hell, or a new hell in a old hell, hell, maybe hell might be hell, but hell looks like new hell?

Hope that makes sense?
 
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Maybe cuz this one will be a graveyard when it's all said and done.
 

Nautilus

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pretty sure it says for the old heaven and the old earth have passed away. hence the need for new ones.
 
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Hell in Heaven?
Might be an oxymoron?

There might be a hell in the new hell, or hells hell, or a new hell in a old hell, hell, maybe hell might be hell, but hell looks like new hell?

Hope that makes sense?

hello hello no new hell o - btw will the new heavens and earth be old like the old ones - wincam
 

Joidevivre

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Why not new heavens and a new earth?
 

JesusLives

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Revelation 21 King James Version (KJV)21 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
 

MarcR

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Hell in Heaven?
Might be an oxymoron?

There might be a hell in the new hell, or hells hell, or a new hell in a old hell, hell, maybe hell might be hell, but hell looks like new hell?

Hope that makes sense?

I think the moron may be waiting to oxidize
 
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psychomom

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Revelation 21 King James Version (KJV)21 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
God making things new :)
i like this one, too.

Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation.[SUP][/SUP]
The old has passed away; behold, the new has come. (2 Cor 5:17)
 
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it seems to be that there will be the old heaven and old hell or will there be hell on the new heaven and earth - wincam

Hell is taken with death and cast into the lake of fire.........

A new heaven and new earth because this one waxes old under sin and this physical kingdom is temporal.....
 
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2 Peter 3:4-7 (KJV) [SUP]4 [/SUP]And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. [SUP]5 [/SUP]For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: [SUP]6 [/SUP]Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: [SUP]7 [/SUP]But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

Revelation 21:1-2 (KJV) [SUP]1 [/SUP]And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. [SUP]2 [/SUP]And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

Revelation 21:14-16 (NASB) [SUP]14 [/SUP]And the wall of the city had twelve foundation stones, and on them were the twelve names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb. [SUP]15 [/SUP]The one who spoke with me had a gold measuring rod to measure the city, and its gates and its wall. [SUP]16 [/SUP]The city is laid out as a square, and its length is as great as the width; and he measured the city with the rod, fifteen hundred miles; its length and width and height are equal.

A new heaven (atmosphere) & earth is needed for two reasons:
1. The old one is cursed & must be destroyed.
2. The old earth & its atmosphere couldn't sustain a city 1,500 miles high. This is literal, because its dimensions were measured on purpose to prove its greatness & grandeur.

John 14:1-3 (KJV) [SUP]1 [/SUP]Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. [SUP]2 [/SUP]In my Father's house are many mansions (dwelling places): if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. [SUP]3 [/SUP]And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
 

WebersHome

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†. Rev 20:14 . . And death and hades were cast into the lake of burning
sulfur.

For now, death is all about us; it's everywhere. In the future; all death will
be quarantined in just one central location; so that should people be curious to
see what death looks like, the lake will be open for tourists.

†. Isa 66:22-24 . . From one New Moon to another and from one Sabbath to
another, all mankind will come and bow down before me; testifies Yhvh. And
they will go out and look upon the corpses of those who rebelled against me:
their worm will not die, nor will their fire be quenched, and they will be
loathsome to all mankind.

The lake of fire kind of reminds me of the La Brea Tar Pits museum in Los
Angeles where the remains of pre-historic creatures are on display that they
dug out of the bitumen deposits in that area.

Death will be nowhere else in the new cosmos because everybody there will
be 110% sinless.

†. 2Pet 3:13 . . But according to His promise we are looking for new heavens
and a new earth, in which righteousness dwells.

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