How do you define sin?

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3Scoreand10

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The short simple answer is to miss the mark.
But who determines the mark or the standard?
I think the answer is obvious. It is God and the fulfillment and example is His son Jesus and His life in the flesh.
Any time we do ANYTHING and we fail to do it as Jesus did it then it is sin.
 
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Wow! You can match Jesus' life????
 
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JesusIsAll

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The short simple answer is to miss the mark.
But who determines the mark or the standard?
I think the answer is obvious. It is God and the fulfillment and example is His son Jesus and His life in the flesh.
Any time we do ANYTHING and we fail to do it as Jesus did it then it is sin.
Anything that falls short of the glory of and righteousness of Holy God, which includes the condition of anybody who has ever lived, except for Jesus Christ.
 
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Fubario

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It means failing to achieve perfect surrender and obedience.
 
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The short simple answer is to miss the mark.
But who determines the mark or the standard?
I think the answer is obvious. It is God and the fulfillment and example is His son Jesus and His life in the flesh.
Any time we do ANYTHING and we fail to do it as Jesus did it then it is sin.
Sin is transgression of the law (1Jn 3:4; Ro 4;15). . .in the NT that is the law of Christ (Mt 22:37-40; 1Co 9:20-21; Gal 6:2; Jas 2:8; Ro 13:8, 9, 10).
 
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atwhatcost

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The short simple answer is to miss the mark.
But who determines the mark or the standard?
I think the answer is obvious. It is God and the fulfillment and example is His son Jesus and His life in the flesh.
Any time we do ANYTHING and we fail to do it as Jesus did it then it is sin.
My answers a bit longer than yours.

It's not doing this ----> Luke 10:27 And he answered, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind, and your neighbor as yourself.”
 
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3Scoreand10

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My answers a bit longer than yours.

It's not doing this ----> Luke 10:27 And he answered, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind, and your neighbor as yourself.”
So as long as we love anything else we do is ok and not sin?
 
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JesusIsAll

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Sin is transgression of the law (1Jn 3:4; Ro 4;15). . .in the NT that is the law of Christ (Mt 22:37-40; 1Co 9:20-21; Gal 6:2; Jas 2:8; Ro 13:8, 9, 10).
Though an expansion of sin exists in the New Testament, to hateful thought or lust being murder and adultery, guilty of one sin, guilty of all, an important point the legalists miss. They are in deep trouble, still, if they "merely" kept the big list by deed. The New Testament standard of holiness is impossible for corruptible man, this the reason we are clothe in His righteous, or filthy rags, nothing in-between. The New Testament standard makes the legalists that much more absurd, because a black speck in your heart and mind are sin, such things a daily occurrence only the self righteous do not acknowledge.
 
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JesusIsAll

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So as long as we love anything else we do is ok and not sin?
If we loved God and our fellow man perfectly, at all times, there would be no darkness, as we would transgress nobody, God or man. This is to say no sin okay, of course, but sin will always violate perfect love of God and man.
 

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Anything not of faith is sin. That includes a lot of doubt and worry, etc.
 
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3Scoreand10

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Anything not of faith is sin. That includes a lot of doubt and worry, etc.
Jesus had perfect faith, had no doubts, did not worry.
As I said, He set the standard, anything less is sin.
 
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JesusIsAll

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Anything not of faith is sin. That includes a lot of doubt and worry, etc.
Doubt and worry are great examples, anybody who never worries an especially bad liar, but it's really saying we aren't completely trusting God, aren't loving Him completely, to not take Him at His word, of much scripture. The Lord wants that trusting faith more than anything, which was the salvation of Old Testament believers.
 
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atwhatcost

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So as long as we love anything else we do is ok and not sin?
Things? No. God and others? Yes.

The thing with sin is we tend to love one thing above all else -- ourselves. We're very into "What's good for me in this situation" and then take it from there. That's why we sin so much and so easily.
 
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3Scoreand10

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So as long as we love anything else we do is ok and not sin?
So as long as we love, anything else we do is ok and not sin.
There I fixed it. Punctation IS important.:cool:
 
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So as long as we love anything else we do is ok and not sin?
Keeping in mind all the things love will compel you to do and not to do, which would be sin if disregarded.
 
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3Scoreand10

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Keeping in mind all the things love will compel you to do and not to do.
But is our love always perfect love as Jesus's love is always perfect?
Again, He sets the standard.
 
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Though an expansion of sin exists in the New Testament, to hateful thought or lust being murder and adultery, guilty of one sin, guilty of all, an important point the legalists miss.
That ain't all they miss.

They are in deep trouble, still, if they "merely" kept the big list by deed. The New Testament standard of holiness is impossible for corruptible man, this the reason we are clothe in His righteous, or filthy rags, nothing in-between. The New Testament standard makes the legalists that much more absurd, because a black speck in your heart and mind are sin, such things a daily occurrence only the self righteous do not acknowledge.
Emphasis on the "self-righteous". . .piety, self-precedence, superiority so clearly displayed. . .which they miss because they are blinded by them.
 
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atwhatcost

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So as long as we love, anything else we do is ok and not sin.
There I fixed it. Punctuation IS important.:cool:
LOL Grammar is my enemy. LOL

Yes, as long as we are constantly loving God completely and loving others completely -- always thinking of them, always caring for them, always doing what we can with God's will in our life, (as in no thought of "What do I get out of this?"), then yes, anything else is fine.

Funny thing though. When is the time for "everything else?"

Very pronounced mark that we miss so easily, isn't it?

We're on the same archery field. We're looking at the same bull's eye. We've got the right bow and the right arrow set. We're seeing it in different ways. Yours is "missing the mark." Mine is "Love completely always." Same bull's eye. And same bull's eye because we're both using God's word to define the term, so this is no accident.