Is porn cheating?

[Jason0047]

Are you aware most women really do think it is just "as serious?"

Why do you think it's not as serious?

So you think it will cause sexual disease, cause the couples to think they are actually going to leave them, and create a covenant whereby they are becoming one flesh with another because of it? Yes, they are both adultery, but they are not on the same level with each other. Yes, I realize some women do think it is the same, but their thoughts are not what defines reality. One has to ignore a whole bunch of things to make them the same type of sin.

 

[atwhatcost]

Both are sins unto death. So they are both serious so as to cause a separation between them and their God if they do not confess or forsake both those kinds of sins. But actually cheating on your spouse is crossing the line in my view. It shows you do not want to be with them anymore and that you don't love them. Also, cheating can cause sexual disease, as well. It is also harder to break off such a sin when you are in a relationship with another human being. So the sin is harder to break if you are to do so. John relates hate with murder. But surely the greater sin is committing murder than say hating someone, though. Murder would be ending their existence. Committing adultery in the sense of cheating on your spouse can actually break up a home and cause a divorce and or death because of the diseases involved. So it is a greater sin. Yes, they are both equally bad and not good in the sense that they can both lead to the Second Death. But I believe one is worse than the other simply by the fact of how destructive one is over the other.

Are you sitting down? Brace yourself. This is a first. So, are you ready?

I agree with you.

Careful. If you're in complete shock, lean your head between your legs to get your blood back up in your head. If it's not that bad, might just take a few sips of water. If you weren't shocked... well, gee whiz? Why not? lol

I agree with you. Most of the women on the Ladies forum don't. To them it is just as devastating as their hubby physically cheating. Some are seriously considering divorce, if the hubby doesn't stop it. This seems like a huge deal-breaker with most woman.

I'm simply weird. (I bet we agree there too. lol)

 

[cmarieh]

Having sexual relations before marriage is a sin, however did you know that the bible does not actually say people can not live together before marriage?

That was started by man and not what God said in the scriptures.
If a man and woman can live under the same roof and administer good self control to not have sex before they marry, then they are not sinning or living in a ungodly way.
The reason people made living together before marriage wrong is because it can lead to giving into temptation easier, and cause a person to stumble. Techniqually the bible does not condemn it though.

Another question must be answered is what is marriage?
It is a union between a man and woman put together by God, and it wasn't tell Moses that a certificate was issued for both marriage and divorce. Before there was no going before a judge or preacher to be pronounced man and wife, and then sign a certificate of proof.
We do now have that certificate by law, and that law does not contradict Gods, therefore in order to be legally married the marriage certificate/license needs to be done......

Honestly, I never thought of it put this way before and thank you for bringing this up. I personally feel as though the temptation of fornication is too great if they live together before marriage. I know my parents lived together and gave birth to me before they got married and they wished they were married before I came along.

 

[atwhatcost]

I lived in San Francisco for many years. It was impossible at times for anyone on public transportation or at City College or at SFSU to avoid seeing women partially or totally nude. Seeing naked women NEVER caused me to desire to be unfaithful to my wife.

If by porn you refer to nudity without overt sexual contact that could possibly be cheating; but NOT NECESSARILY.


If you speak of overt sexual contact being depicted then that is at best grossly inappropriate and is probably cheating;
I know from personal experience that it is possible to look at a naked woman with the same attitude that one has when looking at a sunset or a flower or any other beautiful object in God's creation.

I can't know whether other men do so.

I am a woman. Young men in good shape like to go shirtless in summer. That can be enough for the bird to fly in my brain. (At least my thoughts lean toward touching the abs only. No thought of bedding him crosses my mind. And, even if I considered acting on the thought, chances are good he'd break my fingers, because hes looking at someone old enough to be his grandmother! Not a turn on to him in anyway. lol)

The case I'm picturing would be a guy spending time looking up the X-rated sites on line and ogling.

 

[atwhatcost]

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I'm not saying that it's okay......l'm saying this is the reality of mankind and our thoughts about sex.
Technically, it is sinning.
........thats for all you "sinless" people out there.

I agree, yet it is still sin.

 

[atwhatcost]

Did I miss something? There are sinless people? Are they like unicorns or bigfoot....I've heard it bandied about on this forum but I've never actually seen one outside of this zoo.

Where's your zoo? I want to visit. (The unicorn and bigfoot lives there, right? How about the Jackalope?

 

[atwhatcost]

Any man on this planet that claims he never has impure thoughts from time to time ,l would call out as a liar.

The only way this is possible for a human male ,would be to tape his eyes shut.
....even then, he still has his imagination.

Sad but true.

There are asexuals, people just not interested in sex.

 

[MarcR]

I am a woman. Young men in good shape like to go shirtless in summer. That can be enough for the bird to fly in my brain. (At least my thoughts lean toward touching the abs only. No thought of bedding him crosses my mind. And, even if I considered acting on the thought, chances are good he'd break my fingers, because hes looking at someone old enough to be his grandmother! Not a turn on to him in anyway. lol)

The case I'm picturing would be a guy spending time looking up the X-rated sites on line and ogling.

That, IMO, is definitely wrong whether or not it's cheating; and it probably is cheating.

 

[cmarieh]

Then do you think it's not as serious if that doesn't happen? (I find this topic something we can all learn from, so I'm really trying to find what folks think.)

I can agree that this is something we can all learn from. I believe porn is something that is really serious and concerning especially if one spouse does it without the other one's approval. I mean it is completely wrong all together. If you look at drug or alcohol addicts what is one thing they have in common? They tend to hide and cover up their problem and that is a huge red flag that something is seriously wrong. I fully agree with Jason, except for a couple minor points, however the differences could be that he has lived longer and has more wisdom on this subject than I do.

 

[kennethcadwell]

Honestly, I never thought of it put this way before and thank you for bringing this up. I personally feel as though the temptation of fornication is too great if they live together before marriage. I know my parents lived together and gave birth to me before they got married and they wished they were married before I came along.

No problem as it is the temptation and the leading of one to be in a position to stumble easier that makes living together before marriage frowned upon and said to be wrong. However like I said the living together before marriage is not a sin, as no scripture in the bible says it is. If a couple can administer self control they are not living in sin.

As for your parents yes they feel that way that they wish they were married first.
The good news though is that just like any other sin we can do, if repented of/confessed for forgiveness they to will be forgiven of that sin. All sin, except for blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, can be forgiven if repented/confessed of. Do not be deceived by others who make other sins as unforgivable in their teachings, as that contradicts what the Lord clearly said....

 

[atwhatcost]

In my previous post, I did not even consider the possibility of a man looking at pictures while his wife is awake and available. That would certainly be cheating.

I have on occasion stumbled onto a site that depicted nudity while looking for something else.

On such occasions I have not always exited immediately but I don't linger long.

I think being on Christian chat when your spouse wants attention can be cheating; even without anything sensual or sexual being discussed.

I just think that's the fast track for divorce. lol

 

[Jason0047]

Dear Atwhatcost:

Well, I think they have to realize that 99% of most unbelieving men indulge in it and they do not think it has anything to do with being faithful to their wife. Granted, according to God it is still a sin and it is still very very wrong. What I am saying is that a woman should pray with their husband and seek ways to help him in his struggle with the flesh rather than seeking to divorce him. For they have to see it from their husband's point of view and not their selfish point of view. Men who would not think of cheating on their wife physically do not think they are actually cheating on their spouses when they do indulge in the sin of porn. Most men seek it out as a form of sinful pleasure and not because they want to leave the one they are currently married with. Yes, porn is a very serious sin and a believer has to put that sin behind them in their life because they are striving to conform to Christ. Yes, the sin of porn can even destroy certain marriages because some men may love it more than their wife. But we have to take a step back and think like Christ. We have to love and forgive others. Not as a way of condoing their evil. No, no. But in helping them to stop in their evil.

 

[penknight]

In short, yes.

 

[atwhatcost]

In a way though, he is if he's seeking out nudie pictures of other women.

Other than the lack of physical contact, isn't the motivation the same?

Honestly, I can't even fathom why someone would want to stare at another woman, at least in my current frame of mind. It's just going to make them unhappy.... they should stare at their wife... like a lot. At least that's what I'd do were I married.

(You don't have to say it out loud, but where doe your mind going in the act? Any cheating there? It's not necessarily om TV or online.

 

[Britney]

Iv'e seen marriages who tried Porn and ended up in divorce or permanent problems in the bedroom. Those people keep turning to it and have a hard time with relationships. I don't recommend.

 

[cmarieh]

No problem as it is the temptation and the leading of one to be in a position to stumble easier that makes living together before marriage frowned upon and said to be wrong. However like I said the living together before marriage is not a sin, as no scripture in the bible says it is. If a couple can administer self control they are not living in sin.

As for your parents yes they feel that way that they wish they were married first.
The good news though is that just like any other sin we can do, if repented of/confessed for forgiveness they to will be forgiven of that sin. All sin, except for blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, can be forgiven if repented/confessed of. Do not be deceived by others who make other sins as unforgivable in their teachings, as that contradicts what the Lord clearly said....

After my parents married my mom gave her heart to Christ and my dad was right there with her and I know beyond a shadow of a doubt they have repented for that part of their life. They are still married and have been married going on 24 years next month.

 

[atwhatcost]

The elephant in the room today is that porn is just not a man's issue anymore. Women, particularly young women that are now addicted, watch, use or look at porn is staggering.

There was no gender mentioned when I ask for that reason. Does something change, if it is the wife?

 

[CCHL]

Think about your motive. Jesus said that a man who looks at another woman with lust has committed adultery so let me ask you: Is porn a sin? I believe quite clearly it is because you are looking among many woman with lust and desire of the flesh. Secondly: Is it cheating? Well if you are watching it for pleasure and clearly thinking about the act then yes it is cheating. Good info on this is at fightthenewdrug.org

 

[kennethcadwell]

After my parents married my mom gave her heart to Christ and my dad was right there with her and I know beyond a shadow of a doubt they have repented for that part of their life. They are still married and have been married going on 24 years next month.

That is great to hear, and all praise to God for keeping them together for so long by keeping their love for one another strong.

 

[Jason0047]

Iv'e seen marriages who tried Porn and ended up in divorce or permanent problems in the bedroom. Those people keep turning to it and have a hard time with relationships. I don't recommend.

I agree. Porn is evil and it will lead people to hell. No doubt it is not correct and good in any way shape or form. Oh, and yes. It is a form of cheating but not in the same level as physically cheating on one's spouse with a real flesh and blood human being, though. The other spouse could even get jealous and kill you both. It has happened.