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You might have heard this already, but Jesus said if a man looks upon a woman in lust, they have committed adultery already in their heart with her. So yes, it is a form of cheating. Granted, it is not as serious as say actually sleeping with that person, but it is still wrong, it is still a sin, and it is still considered adultery (and the type of sin that will cause someone not to inherit the Kingdom of God). For we have to guard our hearts and souls and keep ourselves pure if we want to truly follow Jesus.
How can we say it is cheating? Because is not giving that sacred moment that belongs to one's spouse to them alone. Sex is only supposed to be within the bounds of marriage or for your life partner. Venturing outside of that is a form of cheating (i.e. adultery).
How can we say it is cheating? Because is not giving that sacred moment that belongs to one's spouse to them alone. Sex is only supposed to be within the bounds of marriage or for your life partner. Venturing outside of that is a form of cheating (i.e. adultery).
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Hi atwhatcost, Sin starts in the mind long before your hands carry it out. The more time you spend imagining sexual relations with people other than your spouse, the easier it will be to justify cheating on them. Avoid heading down this road. God bless you
“But each one is tempted when he is drawn away by his own desires and enticed. Then, when desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, brings forth death.” (James 1:14-14 NKJV)
“But each one is tempted when he is drawn away by his own desires and enticed. Then, when desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, brings forth death.” (James 1:14-14 NKJV)
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Jason, I agree with you on everything you have said, EXCEPT for stating that "it isn't as serious" I feel that it is just as bad if not worse because a lot of these people that are into porn has serious issues that are kept in the dark for so long that it comes out they are addicted, everything falls apart in their personal lives.
Both are sins unto death. So they are both serious so as to cause a separation between them and their God if they do not confess or forsake both those kinds of sins. But actually cheating on your spouse is crossing the line in my view. It shows you do not want to be with them anymore and that you don't love them. Also, cheating can cause sexual disease, as well. It is also harder to break off such a sin when you are in a relationship with another human being. So the sin is harder to break if you are to do so. John relates hate with murder. But surely the greater sin is committing murder than say hating someone, though. Murder would be ending their existence. Committing adultery in the sense of cheating on your spouse can actually break up a home and cause a divorce and or death because of the diseases involved. So it is a greater sin. Yes, they are both equally bad and not good in the sense that they can both lead to the Second Death. But I believe one is worse than the other simply by the fact of how destructive one is over the other.
I lived in San Francisco for many years. It was impossible at times for anyone on public transportation or at City College or at SFSU to avoid seeing women partially or totally nude. Seeing naked women NEVER caused me to desire to be unfaithful to my wife.
If by porn you refer to nudity without overt sexual contact that could possibly be cheating; but NOT NECESSARILY.
If you speak of overt sexual contact being depicted then that is at best grossly inappropriate and is probably cheating;
I know from personal experience that it is possible to look at a naked woman with the same attitude that one has when looking at a sunset or a flower or any other beautiful object in God's creation.
I can't know whether other men do so.
If by porn you refer to nudity without overt sexual contact that could possibly be cheating; but NOT NECESSARILY.
If you speak of overt sexual contact being depicted then that is at best grossly inappropriate and is probably cheating;
I know from personal experience that it is possible to look at a naked woman with the same attitude that one has when looking at a sunset or a flower or any other beautiful object in God's creation.
I can't know whether other men do so.
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Oh yes. I do agree it is a form of cheating, too. But would you not be more upset if he was cheating on you with another woman, though? Would you not be ever suspecting and distrustful of him if that was the case (Even after you reconciled later)? What about if he gave you a sexual disease? Also, the chances of him leaving is greater if he were to cheat on you with another woman, too. That is kind of why I am saying it is alot more serious of sin although both sins are extremely bad and destructive in their own ways.
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I would also see someone physically cheating on their spouse as a sign of that relationship crumbling, too. Sex is supposed to be the bond that unites them in marriage. For the two shall be one flesh. For sex is only supposed to be between one man and one woman. Breaking that bond by going to another woman shows a serious lack of concern, respect, and love for their other partner. It lets the other person know they do not want to be with them anymore. Pornography is still very evil, too. It can also destroy. But not in the same way. Some men indulge in it because they are weak in their flesh. Hence, why they should draw closer to their wives in marriage and cleave unto them and discuss the issue of their weakness. They could pray together as a couple to overcome something like that. In other words, it is a sin that is more fixable than say cheating on your spouse with an actual whole another person who is real. For when a person has sex, they create a covenant or bond between each other. They become joined together as one flesh.
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In my previous post, I did not even consider the possibility of a man looking at pictures while his wife is awake and available. That would certainly be cheating.
I have on occasion stumbled onto a site that depicted nudity while looking for something else.
On such occasions I have not always exited immediately but I don't linger long.
I think being on Christian chat when your spouse wants attention can be cheating; even without anything sensual or sexual being discussed.
I have on occasion stumbled onto a site that depicted nudity while looking for something else.
On such occasions I have not always exited immediately but I don't linger long.
I think being on Christian chat when your spouse wants attention can be cheating; even without anything sensual or sexual being discussed.
why this argument fails is because you're making some assumptions that aren't founded in facts.
i've known women married to men with porn addictions/habits, and on many levels, i'm not sure it's better than cheating with another woman. science has already proven how the male brain begins to change radically when exposed to porn in regularity. if you want to learn more about how these changes happen in the brain, there is plenty of documentation of that fact. there is a great ted talk by gary wilson, called "the great porn experiment" that discusses the brain changes when men are exposed to porn, as well as "recovery" times.
and in my observation, most people who view porn do so habitually. i'm sure there are a few folks who might have sporadic forays, but there are a lot of people who are keeping these secretive habits. while i don't know any female addicts, i'm sure there are some too.
the married spouse of a porn addict loses a great deal from their marriage, including a significant loss of relationship and intimacy.
comparing porn to in-person cheating would be me asking you, "which devastating event would you prefer your marriage to weather?"
we need to stop comparing the cheating to an actual person, and minimizing it as "not as big of a deal". if you are talking one single exposure to porn, perhaps your example works. but regular porn exposure takes so much away that i don't think it's less than cheating with an actual person.
i've known women married to men with porn addictions/habits, and on many levels, i'm not sure it's better than cheating with another woman. science has already proven how the male brain begins to change radically when exposed to porn in regularity. if you want to learn more about how these changes happen in the brain, there is plenty of documentation of that fact. there is a great ted talk by gary wilson, called "the great porn experiment" that discusses the brain changes when men are exposed to porn, as well as "recovery" times.
and in my observation, most people who view porn do so habitually. i'm sure there are a few folks who might have sporadic forays, but there are a lot of people who are keeping these secretive habits. while i don't know any female addicts, i'm sure there are some too.
the married spouse of a porn addict loses a great deal from their marriage, including a significant loss of relationship and intimacy.
comparing porn to in-person cheating would be me asking you, "which devastating event would you prefer your marriage to weather?"
we need to stop comparing the cheating to an actual person, and minimizing it as "not as big of a deal". if you are talking one single exposure to porn, perhaps your example works. but regular porn exposure takes so much away that i don't think it's less than cheating with an actual person.
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In a way though, he is if he's seeking out nudie pictures of other women.
Other than the lack of physical contact, isn't the motivation the same?
Honestly, I can't even fathom why someone would want to stare at another woman, at least in my current frame of mind. It's just going to make them unhappy.... they should stare at their wife... like a lot. At least that's what I'd do were I married.
Other than the lack of physical contact, isn't the motivation the same?
Honestly, I can't even fathom why someone would want to stare at another woman, at least in my current frame of mind. It's just going to make them unhappy.... they should stare at their wife... like a lot. At least that's what I'd do were I married.
I see them as both being equally destructive. I am not trying to minimize or make an excuse for porn. No way. Porn is still evil and a sin and can send someone to Hell if they refuse to repent of such a sin. The point I am trying to make is that Jesus says in His Word there are greater sins. He actually uses those words. Greater sin. So not all sins are the same. Jesus mentions that there is a blasphmeous sin that is unforgivable. There are sins that do not lead unto death (1 John 5:16-18). There are hidden and secret faults. To say that a woman would not be more upset by them cheating on them with an actual woman are just lying. I know I would be more upset with my future wife if she were to cheat on me versus her having a moment of weakness on the internet. I would think the relationship is in danger of being over if she were to cheat on me. That would not be the case if she were to indulge in porn. The two are both acts of adultery but they both are not the same kind level of sin, though. For John equates hate with murder. Surely hating someone is not as bad as murder.
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