The Law of Faith Established

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The Law of Faith Established

This post is intended to be “food for thought only.”It is not intended to be a new Theology, or any such, it is simply some thoughts to be considered.

In my opinion, the New Covenant Law is the Law of Faith. I will explain how I came to believe this in the commentary below.I will provide Scripture support for my thoughts. To begin my commentary, I want to show how the Apostle Paul introduced this idea to the Church, and thus, to the world.

In Romans, Chapter 3; the Apostle reveals how the Law of the First Covenant is replaced by the Law of the New Covenant. Beginning in verse 19, the Apostle states that the Law of the First Covenant could not justify any man.
19) Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. 20) Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

The Apostle further explains: 21) But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; 22) Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

Notice that he clearly states that the “righteousness of God without the Law” is now manifested, and it is being witnessed by the Law of the First Covenant and the Prophets. Where is this righteousness from? He states: which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe.” (see John 3:16)

He also explains in verse 23, that all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. Even so, we are “vs. 24) justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus ”We are justified by God through faith!"
25) Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; 26) To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

Having explained this, the Apostle now states: 27) Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.

The Apostle clearly states that no man can boast of his own righteousness by the First Covenant Law of works, for boasting has been “excluded.”
And it has been excluded by the Law of Faith through Christ Jesus who is the Author and Finisher of our faith. (see Hebrews 12:2)
He continues by stating: 28) Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. He is clear that man is only justified by FAITH without the DEEDS of the law. That law being the Frist Covenant Law of Moses.

It is also my opinion that the confusion surrounding this establishment of the Law of Faith comes from the last few verses of this Chapter, especially the very last verse.

29) Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also:
30) Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith. 31) Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.


It is my opinion that verse 31 is the Apostles assertion that the Law of Faith, the New Covenant Law IS ESTABLISHED.

The Eleventh Chapter of Hebrews is often considered the Chapter of Faith. I will let you read this Chapter for yourselves. There is also a large body of Scripture concerning “faith” and the role it plays in God’s salvation plan for all mankind. I want to share some of those Scriptures with you for your consideration, and to show how the Law of Faith fits firmly into both God’s salvation plan and the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Faith is defined in this way by the Author of Hebrews 11:1) Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.......3) Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

The Apostle also stated to the Ephesians in Chapter 2:8) For by grace are ye saved THROUGH FAITH; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9) Not of works, lest any man should boast.

He states, in Romans, Chapter 10:13)
For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
14) How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? 15) And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things, and he concludes by stating:
17) So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

Additional Scriptures for your consideration.

Hebrews 11:6) But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

Mark 11:22) And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God.

1 Corinthians 2:5) That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.

2 Corinthians 5:7) (For we walk by faith, not by sight

Hebrews 10:22) Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water. 23) Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised) 24) And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:……………38) Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.


Luke 17:13) And they lifted up their voices, and said, Jesus, Master, have mercy on us. 14) And when he saw them, he said unto them, Go shew yourselves unto the priests. And it came to pass, that, as they went, they were cleansed. 15) And one of them, when he saw that he was healed, turned back, and with a loud voice glorified God, 16) And fell down on his face at his feet, giving him thanks: and he was a Samaritan. 17) And Jesus answering said, Were there not ten cleansed? but where are the nine? 18) There are not found that returned to give glory to God, save this stranger. 19) And he said unto him, Arise, go thy way: thy faith hath made thee whole.

Mark 10:47) And when he heard that it was Jesus of Nazareth, he began to cry out, and say, Jesus, thou son of David, have mercy on me.
48) And many charged him that he should hold his peace: but he cried the more a great deal, Thou son of David, have mercy on me. 49) And Jesus stood still, and commanded him to be called. And they call the blind man, saying unto him, Be of good comfort, rise; he calleth thee. 50) And he, casting away his garment, rose, and came to Jesus. 51) And Jesus answered and said unto him, What wilt thou that I should do unto thee? The blind man said unto him, Lord, that I might receive my sight. 52) And Jesus said unto him, Go thy way; thy faith hath made thee whole. And immediately he received his sight, and followed Jesus in the way.


Mark 8:1) When he was come down from the mountain, great multitudes followed him. 2) And, behold, there came a leper and worshipped him, saying, Lord, if thou wilt, thou canst make me clean. 3) And Jesus put forth his hand, and touched him, saying, I will; be thou clean. And immediately his leprosy was cleansed. 4) And Jesus saith unto him, See thou tell no man; but go thy way, shew thyself to the priest, and offer the gift that Moses commanded, for a testimony unto them.

Matthew 9:20) And, behold, a woman, which was diseased with an issue of blood twelve years, came behind him, and touched the hem of his garment:
21) For she said within herself, If I may but touch his garment, I shall be whole. 22) But Jesus turned him about, and when he saw her, he said, Daughter, be of good comfort; thy faith hath made thee whole. And the woman was made whole from that hour............
27) And when Jesus departed thence, two blind men followed him, crying, and saying, Thou son of David, have mercy on us. 28) And when he was come into the house, the blind men came to him: and Jesus saith unto them, Believe ye that I am able to do this? They said unto him, Yea, Lord. 29) Then touched he their eyes, saying, According to your faith be it unto you. 30) And their eyes were opened; and Jesus straitly charged them, saying, See that no man know it. 31) But they, when they were departed, spread abroad his fame in all that country.


1 John 5:10) He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. 11) And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12) He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. 13) These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. 14) And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us: 15) And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him.

James 5:13) Is any among you afflicted? let him pray. Is any merry? let him sing psalms. 14) Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: 15) And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him. 16) Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

And, of course, I must include:

John 3:14) And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
15) That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17) For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18) He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. ………… 36) He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.


John 4:46) So Jesus came again into Cana of Galilee, where he made the water wine. And there was a certain nobleman, whose son was sick at Capernaum. 47) When he heard that Jesus was come out of Judaea into Galilee, he went unto him, and besought him that he would come down, and heal his son: for he was at the point of death. 48) Then said Jesus unto him, Except ye see signs and wonders, ye will not believe. 49) The nobleman saith unto him, Sir, come down ere my child die. 50) Jesus saith unto him, Go thy way; thy son liveth. And the man believed the word that Jesus had spoken unto him, and he went his way. 51) And as he was now going down, his servants met him, and told him, saying, Thy son liveth. 52) Then enquired he of them the hour when he began to amend. And they said unto him, Yesterday at the seventh hour the fever left him. 53) So the father knew that it was at the same hour, in the which Jesus said unto him, Thy son liveth: and himself believed, and his whole house. 54) This is again the second miracle that Jesus did, when he was come out of Judaea into Galilee.

John 5:22) For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: 23) That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him. 24) Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life…………..37) And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape. 38) And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not. 39) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. 40) And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

Mark 9:19) He answereth him, and saith, O faithless generation, how long shall I be with you? how long shall I suffer you? bring him unto me. 20) And they brought him unto him: and when he saw him, straightway the spirit tare him; and he fell on the ground, and wallowed foaming. 21) And he asked his father, How long is it ago since this came unto him? And he said, Of a child. 22) And oft times it hath cast him into the fire, and into the waters, to destroy him: but if thou canst do any thing, have compassion on us, and help us. 23) Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth. 24) And straightway the father of the child cried out, and said with tears, Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief. 25) When Jesus saw that the people came running together, he rebuked the foul spirit, saying unto him, Thou dumb and deaf spirit, I charge thee, come out of him, and enter no more into him. 26) And the spirit cried, and rent him sore, and came out of him: and he was as one dead; insomuch that many said, He is dead. 27) But Jesus took him by the hand, and lifted him up; and he arose.

In conclusion, let me say; Faith is dynamic, powerful, and wondrous to those that believe in the Name of Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior.

For all who actually read through this, thank you for your consideration of my thoughts, and may God bless you.

 

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great post p!! nice to see well-thought Biblical post!!! need more of these.
 

p_rehbein

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Thanks :)

I have decided that I am a Legalist. A Law of Faith Legalist. So, my new acronym is LoFL! :)
 

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Isn't it, "faith establishes sthe law?" Thanks...........
 

p_rehbein

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Isn't it, "faith establishes sthe law?" Thanks...........
Actually, even under the First Covenant, justification came by faith. As is recorded in Hebrews, Chapter 11. Under the New Covenant, the Law of Moses was fulfilled and the Law of Faith was established.

(now, my opinion only, so :) )

Having explained this, the Apostle now states: 27) Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.

The Apostle clearly states that no man can boast of his own righteousness by the First Covenant Law of works, for boasting has been “excluded.”
And it has been excluded by the Law of Faith through Christ Jesus who is the Author and Finisher of our faith. (see Hebrews 12:2)
He continues by stating: 28) Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. He is clear that man is only justified by FAITH without the DEEDS of the law. That law being the Frist Covenant Law of Moses.

It is also my opinion that the confusion surrounding this establishment of the Law of Faith comes from the last few verses of this Chapter, especially the very last verse.

29) Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also:
30) Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith. 31) Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
 

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Rom 3:26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
Rom 3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.






Ifind this reference to the law of faith in the KJV Bible, but not in others,. It is in others as "a" law of faith.



Reading what leads up to the need for this law of faith, it is understood that faith in Jesus Christ makes us free of our sin, with Christ being our Justifier.
None of the teaching indicates tom me , or most others like I, that the law is to be ignored, especially in view of the teaching on the permanence of the law by Jesus Christ. I believe Paul is making a simple referenc to the truth that we are saved by faith in Jesus Christ. Again, this dos not negate obedience to the best of our ability until our perfction is acheived on God's great and glorious day.

Certainly if one wishes to consider his faith as obeying a law, there is probably nothing against tis in the Word. I do know Jesus teaches if we believe Him we are saved, soyes, I believe we all obey this law also

May Jesus return soon, amen.
 

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I've always understood it as the Old Covenant required obedience to the law. The New Covenant requires surrender to Christ. Only then can God's laws be written on a person's heart and mind.

Wasn't faith here before even the law? Abel's sacrifice showed faith. Abraham, etc.....
 
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JaumeJ

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Well stated...........thanks.


I've always understood it as the Old Covenant required obedience to the law. The New Covenant requires surrender to Christ. Only then can God's laws be written on a person's heart and mind.

Wasn't faith here before even the law? Abel's sacrifice showed faith. Abraham, etc.....
 

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Romans 7 Do you not know, brothers and sisters—for I am speaking to those who know the law—that the law has authority over someone only as long as that person lives? 2 For example, by law a married woman is bound to her husband as long as he is alive, but if her husband dies, she is released from the law that binds her to him. 3 So then, if she has sexual relations with another man while her husband is still alive, she is called an adulteress. But if her husband dies, she is released from that law and is not an adulteress if she marries another man.
4 So, my brothers and sisters, you also died to the law through the body of Christ, that you might belong to another, to him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God. 5 For when we were in the realm of the flesh, the sinful passions aroused by the law were at work in us, so that we bore fruit for death. 6 But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.

Romans 8:14
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God.
 
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Romans 7 Do you not know, brothers and sisters—for I am speaking to those who know the law—that the law has authority over someone only as long as that person lives? 2 For example, by law a married woman is bound to her husband as long as he is alive, but if her husband dies, she is released from the law that binds her to him. 3 So then, if she has sexual relations with another man while her husband is still alive, she is called an adulteress. But if her husband dies, she is released from that law and is not an adulteress if she marries another man.
4 So, my brothers and sisters, you also died to the law through the body of Christ, that you might belong to another, to him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God. 5 For when we were in the realm of the flesh, the sinful passions aroused by the law were at work in us, so that we bore fruit for death. 6 But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.

Romans 8:14
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God.
Thank you for posting this. So many have a hard time realizing the dunamis power of the Holy Spirit. There probably should be more teachings on "being filled with the Spirit". And understanding just what He gives us.
 
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This is what a post should do edify and stimulate discussion. ?????? Thank you all
 
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This is what a post should do edify and stimulate discussion.
 
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Actually, even under the First Covenant, justification came by faith. As is recorded in Hebrews, Chapter 11. Under the New Covenant, the Law of Moses was fulfilled and the Law of Faith was established.

(now, my opinion only, so :) )

Having explained this, the Apostle now states: 27) Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.

The Apostle clearly states that no man can boast of his own righteousness by the First Covenant Law of works, for boasting has been “excluded.”
And it has been excluded by the Law of Faith through Christ Jesus who is the Author and Finisher of our faith. (see Hebrews 12:2)
He continues by stating: 28) Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. He is clear that man is only justified by FAITH without the DEEDS of the law. That law being the Frist Covenant Law of Moses.

It is also my opinion that the confusion surrounding this establishment of the Law of Faith comes from the last few verses of this Chapter, especially the very last verse.

29) Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also:
30) Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith. 31) Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
" Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone." Matthew 23:23

I think that the weighter matters of the law (judgment, mercy, and faith) were established before the New Testament. The religious people couldn't see it back then, and there are many who still cannot see it today.

Hebrews 9:16-17
[SUP]16 [/SUP]For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
 
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The Law of Faith Established

This post is intended to be “food for thought only.”It is not intended to be a new Theology, or any such, it is simply some thoughts to be considered.

In my opinion, the New Covenant Law is the Law of Faith.
Thank you! Now I am thinking on that:
1. What is the difference between the words "law" and "Covenant" on the one side and the "commandments" by the other?
2. How one could make the Faith alive without deeds? or - How we should practise our Faith? Or we should not ...?
3. If one has faith then why he does not trusts of the rules?
4.What is the difference between "faith" and "trusts" ?
5. How many Christians see the difference between "faith" and "hope"?

yea ... it is simply ...
 

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Some may not have paid attention that I said they should read Hebrews, Chapter 11. Some of what is being said here is answered in Hebrews, Chapter 11.

:)


From the OP:

The Eleventh Chapter of Hebrews is often considered the Chapter of Faith. I will let you read this Chapter for yourselves. There is also a large body of Scripture concerning “faith” and the role it plays in God’s salvation plan for all mankind. I want to share some of those Scriptures with you for your consideration, and to show how the Law of Faith fits firmly into both God’s salvation plan and the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
 

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The just shall live by faith. .Fini
 

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Some may not have paid attention that I said they should read Hebrews, Chapter 11. Some of what is being said here is answered in Hebrews, Chapter 11.

:)


From the OP:

The Eleventh Chapter of Hebrews is often considered the Chapter of Faith. I will let you read this Chapter for yourselves. There is also a large body of Scripture concerning “faith” and the role it plays in God’s salvation plan for all mankind. I want to share some of those Scriptures with you for your consideration, and to show how the Law of Faith fits firmly into both God’s salvation plan and the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Truth:eek:
I am appreciated that you have made me thinking about the faith. There- above I was referring /and a bit quoting/ the words about faith by Jacob in chapter 2

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Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
19. Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
20. But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?


Let think about that in Hebrew Paul has been talking to the Jewish who have been learning Torah since they are born and at 13 years age they had known at least 500 verses from it.
Recently I have read the words by a wise man who says that when someone like me - Non Jewish /if no count words of Paul/ is talking about "Hebrew" that may cause only tears. I do not wanna make no one cry ...
Since then when I see myself reading and talking about verses of Hebrew it reminds me that I have no knowledge enough and that leads me to the other part of the Bible in Rom.10:19.
So I will follow your advise and will read it very carefully!
I believe that without faith nothing is possible!
 
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Golly Molly!!! That was a long post full of great wisdom! I thought I would never make it through, but I was determined!
 

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Rom 3:26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
Rom 3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.






Ifind this reference to the law of faith in the KJV Bible, but not in others,. It is in others as "a" law of faith.



Reading what leads up to the need for this law of faith, it is understood that faith in Jesus Christ makes us free of our sin, with Christ being our Justifier.
None of the teaching indicates tom me , or most others like I, that the law is to be ignored, especially in view of the teaching on the permanence of the law by Jesus Christ. I believe Paul is making a simple referenc to the truth that we are saved by faith in Jesus Christ. Again, this dos not negate obedience to the best of our ability until our perfction is acheived on God's great and glorious day.

Certainly if one wishes to consider his faith as obeying a law, there is probably nothing against tis in the Word. I do know Jesus teaches if we believe Him we are saved, soyes, I believe we all obey this law also

May Jesus return soon, amen.
the Greek has no indefinite article.
 

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" Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone." Matthew 23:23

I think that the weighter matters of the law (judgment, mercy, and faith) were established before the New Testament. The religious people couldn't see it back then, and there are many who still cannot see it today.

Hebrews 9:16-17
[SUP]16 [/SUP]For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

This is speaking of the New Covenant/Testament in His blood...

Jeremiah 31:31-33 (KJV)
31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.