Present yourselves a living sacrifice

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Romans 12:1 “I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.” Doing the Fathers will requires us to make sacrifices in our daily lives, denying ourselves and the lusts of the flesh are also a part of making “daily sacrifices.”

Jesus said in
Luke 9:23 “And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.” Even Paul said in 1 Corinthians 15:31 “I protest by your rejoicing which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die daily.” This is the sign of the daily sacrifice, a similitude of which is shown in the Old Testament with many animal sacrifices. This is not saying we ourselves can be a sacrifice for the remission of our own sins, for it is only in Jesus Christs offering of Himself we have “one sacrifice for all.”

But never the less, we are told to become a living sacrifice and be holy, and to take up our crosses daily. But many say we cannot be holy, or we cannot be perfect, or we cannot be spotless and without the blemish of
sin. Even though the Lord said to be perfect and to be holy, as He also is Holy.


And if you look to the law of sacrifice, which is a similitude of greater spiritual things and spiritual sacrifices, what do we see?
Leviticus 22:21 “And whosoever offereth a sacrifice of peace offerings unto the Lord to accomplish his vow, or a freewill offering in beeves or sheep, it shall be perfect to be accepted; there shall be no blemish therein.”

And here in
Deuteronomy 15:21 “And if there be any blemish therein, as if it be lame, or blind, or have any ill blemish, thou shalt not sacrifice it unto the Lord thy God.” Deuteronomy 17:1 “Thou shalt not sacrifice unto the Lord thy God any bullock, or sheep, wherein is blemish, or any evilfavouredness: for that is an abomination unto the Lord thy God.”

And this is what the Lord came to perform in His Church as Paul shows here in
Ephesians 5:27 “That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.”

But many carnally minded men say this being perfect, holy, and without blemish is not possible. So who are you going to believe, the doubtful words of men, or the truth according to the words of God?


But it was by reason of
transgression the daily sacrifice has been taken away by the flood of lies of the Prince of this world. Who through sowing doubt through lies by many deceivers into the hearts and minds of men, it, the spirit of a lie would also cast the truth to the ground, and the host would be trodden under foot.


Jeremiah 12:10 “Many pastors have destroyed my vineyard, they have trodden my portion under foot, they have made my pleasant portion a desolate wilderness.

Matthew 5:13Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.
 

Grandpa

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Who can stand before God and declare their own Righteousness? Declare that they are without spot and without blemish?


Our Righteousness is a gift of God and all we can do is be thankful for it. I don't think we can compare ourselves among ourselves and say "you aren't doing it". Because, if we are truthful, if we step out from Christ and attempt to accuse the brethren in this manner we become what we hate. We become the pharisee, or the brother attempting to point at the speck in his brothers eye when he has a plank in his own.

Romans 14:4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

We may very well be without blemish and without spot. But it won't be because we had more strength or more wisdom than anyone else. It will be because of the Blood of the Lamb and what the Lord Jesus Christ, our High Priest, has done and is doing for us.

I hope to be perfect and without blemish before God. I'm on your side. I think we should attain it. I would just be a little slower in saying I have attained it. You know, because I'm so humble... lol
 
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RIGHT ! that's the point a lot of posters keep repeatedly missing ! --> by the BLOOD it is so!

and in line with HIS WORD , all in all... entirely always in harmony with HIS WORD...

[h=1] Psalm 24 Revised Standard Version (RSV)
[/h] [h=3]Entrance into the Temple[/h][h=4]A Psalm of David.[/h]24 The earth is the Lord’s and the fulness thereof,
the world and those who dwell therein;
[SUP]2 [/SUP]for he has founded it upon the seas,
and established it upon the rivers.


[SUP]3 [/SUP]Who shall ascend the hill of the Lord?
And who shall stand in his holy place?
[SUP]4 [/SUP]He who has clean hands and a pure heart,
who does not lift up his soul to what is false,
and does not swear deceitfully.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]He will receive blessing from the Lord,
and vindication from the God of his salvation.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]Such is the generation of those who seek him,
who seek the face of the God of Jacob.[SUP][a][/SUP]Selah


 
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Who can stand before God and declare their own Righteousness? Declare that they are without spot and without blemish?


Our Righteousness is a gift of God and all we can do is be thankful for it. I don't think we can compare ourselves among ourselves and say "you aren't doing it". Because, if we are truthful, if we step out from Christ and attempt to accuse the brethren in this manner we become what we hate. We become the pharisee, or the brother attempting to point at the speck in his brothers eye when he has a plank in his own.

Romans 14:4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

We may very well be without blemish and without spot. But it won't be because we had more strength or more wisdom than anyone else. It will be because of the Blood of the Lamb and what the Lord Jesus Christ, our High Priest, has done and is doing for us.

I hope to be perfect and without blemish before God. I'm on your side. I think we should attain it. I would just be a little slower in saying I have attained it. You know, because I'm so humble... lol
The message is not a message of condemnation for those who believe. Nor is it a message of judgment, nor a message of our own righteousness. But the message is of faith in what the power of the Lord can work in you, by transforming you into the image of His blessed Son.


Has not the potter power over the clay to form it, and shape it to His liking?

Isaiah 64:6-8[SUP] "[/SUP]But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]And there is none that calleth upon thy name, that stirreth up himself to take hold of thee: for thou hast hid thy face from us, and hast consumed us, because of our iniquities.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]But now, O Lord, thou art our father; we are the clay, and thou our potter; and we all are the work of thy hand."



Jeremiah 18:4
And the vessel that he made of clay was marred in the hand of the potter: so he made it again another vessel, as seemed good to the potter to make it.

Deuteronomy 32:4
He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.

Psalm 138:8
The Lord will perfect that which concerneth me: thy mercy, O Lord, endureth for ever: forsake not the works of thine own hands.

May the Lord work a perfect work in you, by faith in His power to do so. :)
 

posthuman

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what do you make of this, InSpiritInTruth ? and you, Jeff ? Grandpa ?

Either a bullock or a lamb that hath any thing superfluous or lacking in his parts,
that mayest thou offer for a freewill offering; but for a vow it shall not be accepted.

(Leviticus 22:23)

i think it means we are acceptable sacrifices to Him (having been cleaned & made without blemish by His blood) without having first been fully perfected in Him. i agree totally with what you & Jeff said, & think this speaks to what Grandpa said.


 
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what do you make of this, InSpiritInTruth ? and you, Jeff ? Grandpa ?

Either a bullock or a lamb that hath any thing superfluous or lacking in his parts,
that mayest thou offer for a freewill offering; but for a vow it shall not be accepted.

(Leviticus 22:23)

i think it means we are acceptable sacrifices to Him (having been cleaned & made without blemish by His blood) without having first been fully perfected in Him. i agree totally with what you & Jeff said, & think this speaks to what Grandpa said.


When you understand it is the insides the Lords wants, then you'll see the outsides (appearances) don't really matter. I think the word superfluous in that verse speaks symbolically of this. If you look at the voluntary offering, one was to bring his own sacrifice and kill it, just as we are told to put to death the body of sin and deeds of the flesh.

You will also see the outsides of the sacrifice, the flesh was to be burned outside the camp, just as we in this world are told to put to death the deeds of the flesh.

Exodus 29:14
But the flesh of the bullock, and his skin, and his dung, shalt thou burn with fire without the camp: it is a sin offering.

The insides of the sacrifice was to be washed with water, just as the Lords words washes our insides (heart and mind) and makes them clean. Then they are ready to be offered up a sweet smelling sovour unto the Lord.

John 15:3
Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.

Ephesians 5:26
That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,