Food, beverages and more...

[Jesus4ever]

Ok, brothers and sister, I hope this is the right forum to speak, as I ask this in Scriptures view. Plus, this has nothing to do with clean or unclean food directly.

I´ve been wondering recently about doing, above all, God´s will and to obey Him and to follow and serve Him the best I can. So, we all know that a christian should not smoke or do drugs, I believe that´s clear. We know that even if we smoke 1 cigarette a day it won´t be good to our health. As for drugs, I think it isn´t even worth mention it (apart from alcohol).

But, what about alcohol? Scriptures are clear saying that one should not get drunk. I rarely drink it, and mostly what I consume is red wine and (very rarely, a beer). And, I drink one or two times only. I know that some brothers think that one should not even touch it, but is it a sin to drink a glass of wine during meals?

Plus, we know that there are food that is not healthy. Take fast-food, for example. Personally, I love hamburgers and pizzas. Again, some brothers and sisters state we should pay attention to the food we consume, as our body is the temple of the Holy Spirit (1 Co 6:19), that we should even avoid eating meat.


So, my question is: Is it a sin to drink any type of alcohol and eat unhealthy food, or is it ok if one "respect the limits" and consume little of it?


God bless you!

 

[atwhatcost]

So, we all know that a christian should not smoke or do drugs, I believe that´s clear. We know that even if we smoke 1 cigarette a day it won´t be good to our health. As for drugs, I think it isn´t even worth mention it (apart from alcohol).

So, this is where you lost me.

A. No, "we" all don't know that.

B. Here goes another "don't smoke, don't drink, don't chew, and don't hang out with those that do" version, instead of taking the Law God gave us.

C. I'm very tired of the modern version of the commandments. All they do is give shallow faith, and really no faith, since most folks can do some of them without God's help. (And they can only do that because they invented a list they can do.)

I guess I'm going to hell, (according to you), because I need some aspirins after rolling my eyes too hard, and I still want a cigarette!

 

[DiscipleDave]

Ok, brothers and sister, I hope this is the right forum to speak, as I ask this in Scriptures view. Plus, this has nothing to do with clean or unclean food directly.

I´ve been wondering recently about doing, above all, God´s will and to obey Him and to follow and serve Him the best I can. So, we all know that a christian should not smoke or do drugs, I believe that´s clear. We know that even if we smoke 1 cigarette a day it won´t be good to our health. As for drugs, I think it isn´t even worth mention it (apart from alcohol).

But, what about alcohol? Scriptures are clear saying that one should not get drunk. I rarely drink it, and mostly what I consume is red wine and (very rarely, a beer). And, I drink one or two times only. I know that some brothers think that one should not even touch it, but is it a sin to drink a glass of wine during meals?

Plus, we know that there are food that is not healthy. Take fast-food, for example. Personally, I love hamburgers and pizzas. Again, some brothers and sisters state we should pay attention to the food we consume, as our body is the temple of the Holy Spirit (1 Co 6:19), that we should even avoid eating meat.

God bless you!

It is the Holy Spirit of God that convicts us of what is sinful and what is not sinful.

The Holy Ghost may convict a person that eating pork is sinful, and for that person to do so, it is indeed sinful. But just because it is sinful for one, does not mean it is sinful for another. Paul said he could do all things, but it is not expedient to do so. If i am in a house and they do not eat meat, i will not eat meat in that house, as to not offend them.

The bigger picture, you can eat all things, and you can drink all things. But if the Holy Ghost is convicting you (feeling wrong, or guilty) then for you to continue to do it, is is sinful.

But let not one tell another that a thing is sinful or not sinful. As i said before what may be sinful for one person may not be sinful for another. One may commit sinful thoughts by watching Friends on TV, yet another commits no sin at all by watching Friends. One may feel convicted by drinking a beer, while another is not convicted at all by just having one beer. Of course getting drunk is a sin because the Bible clearly teaches that it is sinful to get Drunk.

One may feel convicted that they should not eat pizza, therefore if that one does eat pizza they commit sin. NOT because of the pizza, but because they are doing such things that they know they should not be doing, which is sin.
So, my question is: Is it a sin to drink any type of alcohol and eat unhealthy food, or is it ok if one "respect the limits" and consume little of it?

You are concerned above all to be doing God's will. This is God's will. that we believe on Jesus and LOVE ONE ANOTHER. It does not matter what you eat or what you do not eat, what matters is if you are LOVING ONE ANOTHER. Do not put a stumbling block in front of others. If they do not eat meat, then you do not eat meat in front of them, that is not LOVING them if you do.

God's will also differs per person, depending on what part of the body of Christ they are. Follow the prompting of the Holy Ghost. if the Holy Spirit of God convicts you concerning a certain thing, then stop doing that certain thing, and Do NOT teach others that that certain thing is a sin for them to do, because it may not be sinful to them yet it is to you.

Again, i can't stress it enough, It is the Holy Ghost that convicts us of what is sinful. Let us not be the judge of what is sinful and not sinful concerning others. Judge self, not others. If you are doing something that you are convicted about, then stop doing that something else it is sinful.

^i^ Responding to OP

 

[KennethC]

Well to start you will get different answers as you will have those who still believe the 613 written ordinances of the Mosaic laws apply under the new covenant, and then you will have those who don't believe any standards still apply.

I will answer you by what the NT says as it shows the written ordinances do not apply in Colossians 2:14.
Apostle Paul twice says and shows all things are lawful to do now, but some things may not be edifying or helpful in 1 Corinthians 6:12, 10:23. Just because something may not be healthy does not make it a sin to do, and remember how Jesus said it is not what goes into the body that defiles a person, it is our actions, speech, and treatment of others that defiles a person (Matthew 15:11, Mark 7:15). We can not take what Paul said in 1 Corinthians 6:9 apart from these by Jesus !!!

Drinking alcohol is not a sin if done in moderation, and some of the OT saints in the bible such as Noah even had a vineyard and drank the wine of it. It did not become a sin tell he got drunk off it and his son Ham saw his nakedness......(Genesis 9:21-22)

Also the food ordinances of the OT do not apply, and Paul and the bible makes this clear.....(Romans 14:2, 1 Corinthians 8:8, 10:25-31, 1 Timothy 4:2-5, Hebrews 6:7-8, 13:9, Acts 10:15)

Now with that being said all things can be abused and become a sin, but if done in moderation and following the standards given by the word of God then it is not sinful in nature.......

 

[peacefulbeliever]

So, this is where you lost me.

A. No, "we" all don't know that.

B. Here goes another "don't smoke, don't drink, don't chew, and don't hang out with those that do" version, instead of taking the Law God gave us.

C. I'm very tired of the modern version of the commandments. All they do is give shallow faith, and really no faith, since most folks can do some of them without God's help. (And they can only do that because they invented a list they can do.)

I guess I'm going to hell, (according to you), because I need some aspirins after rolling my eyes too hard, and I still want a cigarette!

Oh . . . you just really made me laugh! Thanks, I needed that!

 

[oldthennew]

atwhatcost,

you must know that for those of us who have over-come some of the things that are detrimental to our health
and well-being and witness, greatly grieve for the ones who have yet to put behind them what they must in
order to present themselves as a clean and growing and an obedient witness for their Creator.

our grieving comes from our very own past, (for the gap between what we once were partakers of and what
we know and feel now as we present ourselves before our Lord without all of the weight or burden of what
was killing us before the whole world's eyes,) has narrowed dramatically, even so, we are no less the Lords
during our over-coming, yet He does want our bodies to be Holy Temples, for if Christ dwells in us, we have
to know that we can do all things through Him.




we must diligently pray for each other to be strengthened and honed for it is written,
Iron sharpeneth iron, and so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend.

 

[atwhatcost]

atwhatcost,

you must know that for those of us who have over-come some of the things that are detrimental to our health
and well-being and witness, greatly grieve for the ones who have yet to put behind them what they must in
order to present themselves as a clean and growing and an obedient witness for their Creator.

our grieving comes from our very own past, (for the gap between what we once were partakers of and what
we know and feel now as we present ourselves before our Lord without all of the weight or burden of what
was killing us before the whole world's eyes,) has narrowed dramatically, even so, we are no less the Lords
during our over-coming, yet He does want our bodies to be Holy Temples, for if Christ dwells in us, we have
to know that we can do all things through Him.




we must diligently pray for each other to be strengthened and honed for it is written,
Iron sharpeneth iron, and so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend.

What I do know is I've been villianized on mainstream TV, the news media, and my fellow Christians because I have chronic pain and do take oxycodone to stop me from writhing on the floor in constant pain. (That is not exaggeration. I was reduced to writhing on a wooden floor.) I do not abuse it, and yet... here we go again.

What I do know is I am addicted to cigarettes, yet even admitting I smoke means I'm not a Christian to many. God has never told me it is evil. Stupid, but not evil. Unhealthy, but not evil. Has led us both to COPD, but not evil. And yet...

What I do know is I finally have two really good excuses to quit -- hubby is trying to quit because of his health, and I absolutely know smelling my cigarette makes him want one. The other reason is obvious -- can't afford them anymore. So I've been trying to quit. First I'm cutting down. Brilliant!

So, what do I read in a shallow-believer's post? "Cigarette!" Barely made it to the next time for my next cig, because someone thinks it's more important to find out exactly where that line is in his sand -- not God's sand -- so he can push the envelope on sinning without crossing that line. This is what happens when we create a short list of law to follow. Not only are we just doing that to see how far we can push the envelope and still pretend we're sinless, but we never know when a struggling brother stumbles onto it to cause havoc in that struggle.

Why do you think I needed aspirin? It gives me a headache!

Now, excuse me while I go get busy to avoid that next cigarette.

 

[Jesus4ever]

I guess I'm going to hell, (according to you), because I need some aspirins after rolling my eyes too hard, and I still want a cigarette!

Hi, sister.


I´m sorry, did I mention anything like that? By drugs I´m not referring to medication of any kind.

Plus, maybe I´m wrong, but I´ve notice that, somehow, some of my threads seem to upset you, judging by the way you reply. Care to explain why, dear sister?


God bless you!

 

[dcontroversal]

It is not those things that enter into a man that defiles a man........moderation is the key word and reality of the bible!

 

[Jesus4ever]

So, what do I read in a shallow-believer's post? "Cigarette!"

Like I said, I can´t understand the way you reacting, dear sister. I was not judging anyone with my thread. Am I a shallow-believer? Why? Because I have questions and want to know my brothers and sisters opinion´s regarding a matter that I´d like to be clarified? Because I want to seek others wisdom and deeper knowledge of the Scriptures?

Barely made it to the next time for my next cig, because someone thinks it's more important to find out exactly where that line is in his sand -- not God's sand -- so he can push the envelope on sinning without crossing that line. This is what happens when we create a short list of law to follow. Not only are we just doing that to see how far we can push the envelope and still pretend we're sinless, but we never know when a struggling brother stumbles onto it to cause havoc in that struggle.

Why do you think I needed aspirin? It gives me a headache!

Now, excuse me while I go get busy to avoid that next cigarette.

I can´t see how do you got offended so much with my statement about smoking and drugs. I admit I may be wrong, but I simply can´t see why you got so upset and now turn against me simply because of what I wrote. So, now I´m guilty of your problem regarding cigarettes?

I´m sorry if you feel that way, sister. Nevertheless, I want to apologize if I offend or hurt you somehow with that statement, dear sister!


May God bless you!

 

[Jason0047]

 

[posthuman]

there's another thread or two talking about a different part of this chapter of Colossians, so i thought hey let's post this part here, where it's relevant:

If with Christ you died to the elemental spirits of the world, why, as if you were still alive in the world, do you submit to regulations— “Do not handle, Do not taste, Do not touch” (referring to things that all perish as they are used) — according to human precepts and teachings? These have indeed an appearance of wisdom in promoting self-made religion and asceticism and severity to the body, but they are of no value in stopping the indulgence of the flesh.
(Colossians 2:20-23)
​

we as being in Christ do not have "do not handle, do not taste, do not touch" laws with regard to food and drink. those are merely human teachings that do nothing for the spirit.
whatever you can give thanks for is good for you to eat.
if by your eating you cause someone else to stumble in their faith, you should not do so.
that is the reason Paul says he would not eat meat - if it would cause someone else to stumble - not because meat would defile his body.

you do not sin by drinking some wine or beer. but if it bothers the conscious of someone else in your presence, you should abstain, for the sake of their faith ((not your own)).

that's how i see this, anyhow, and as far as i understand, that's the way the Bible presents it.

 

[atwhatcost]

Hi, sister.


I´m sorry, did I mention anything like that? By drugs I´m not referring to medication of any kind.

Plus, maybe I´m wrong, but I´ve notice that, somehow, some of my threads seem to upset you, judging by the way you reply. Care to explain why, dear sister?


God bless you!

You tend to think everyone thinks like you and that you think right.

Jesus brought up divorce because he knows the evil heart of man, but you think divorce is never an option. I'm married to a man who divorced under what Jesus said. He didn't make the easy decision. There are people on that Family Forum going through hell because they're making the hard decisions, but you preach easy.

You assume cigs and drugs, (now recreational drugs, so, okay, less against the concept now) are sin and so no believer would do that. Still, even with recreation drugs, some are new enough in the Lord they don't yet know to trust him instead of drugs. It takes time to get there.

You don't give room for growth, imperfection or sheer stupidity. I'm still growing, still imperfect, and still stupid. That doesn't mean I'm not a Christian. It means I'm still stupid! Give room for the possibility of others not to be so awe-inspiringly perfect. Give room for some day, maybe not now, but some day, there will be more pressing matters. Life isn't a To-Do and To-Don't List. It's following God as he leads us. Paul got it in a few short days. He still had so much more to get. Peter had his good moments and bad moments. Even denying Jesus three times didn't make him the bad guy. It made him the needy guy. Ain't we all? And then there was Jonah.

Whew, Jonah! Jonah is my encouragement guy. If God can get through to him, he can get through to me. Just keep remembering we ain't all perfect, and I may not need as much aspirin in the future. (I probably will. Did I happen to mention I'm also prone to weather-related migraines? If fronts would stop moving through, I wouldn't need aspirin at all. lol)

But, man! You're gagging me. I'm tried of being gagged by my bros and sises. When I was new in the Lord the only thing your kind of message did for me was make me question if I was even a Christian quietly. I thought everyone else was perfect, and I wasn't. What a waste of a decade!

I'm imperfect. Others are imperfect. God's working on us, so if put in the reality that some of us are stupider than others, but God's fixing us all gradually at the speed we can handle, maybe there will be less gagging.

The world gags me. I come to my bros and sises to escape from that for a bit. Not thrilled I got it here too. Really not thrilled when you talk about no divorces in front of a few people struggling over a divorce right now.

Okay? (and not a self-righteous "okay." Seriously asking if that's okay with you? As in, can we find some way of being of one accord in all this?) You're not the bad guy either, but you're pressing down people who need to be lifted up. I suspect you're closer to Peter, but I'm closer to Jonah. It weighs, especially when life isn't easy.

 

[atwhatcost]

Like I said, I can´t understand the way you reacting, dear sister. I was not judging anyone with my thread. Am I a shallow-believer? Why? Because I have questions and want to know my brothers and sisters opinion´s regarding a matter that I´d like to be clarified? Because I want to seek others wisdom and deeper knowledge of the Scriptures?





I can´t see how do you got offended so much with my statement about smoking and drugs. I admit I may be wrong, but I simply can´t see why you got so upset and now turn against me simply because of what I wrote. So, now I´m guilty of your problem regarding cigarettes?

I´m sorry if you feel that way, sister. Nevertheless, I want to apologize if I offend or hurt you somehow with that statement, dear sister!


May God bless you!

I'm assuming you're not an alcoholic, or you wouldn't be asking about alcohol. (If an alcoholic gets to the point of knowing God's against him/her getting so soused they're no good to anyone, then they trust in God to stop drinking. You're not worried about stop drinking, so you're not an alcoholic.)

Can we agree that far?

(That's the easy part, so I'm thinking we can.)

So, an alcoholic works toward never drinking again once God shines his light on that area, right?

(Again, here I think we can agree.)

Are you having a drink in front of one? Is that fair?

(And, I'm thinking we're both agreeing neither one of us would do that to a recently recovering alcoholic, so we have agreement there. The following is where agreement is turned into disagreement.)

A. How do you know this thread didn't just make a recently sober alcoholic crave a drink? I've already said I'm cutting back on smoking. I plan to quit, but I've tried that before and almost killed my cat simply because he did what he always did -- jump on top of me to settle in for a nap while I scratched him in all his favorite places. I'm kind of partial to hubby, so don't want to kill him simply because of nicotine withdraw. You throw the "we all believe" up there as if we all do believe that and as if it's no big deal to anyone reading it. It's really probably not... unless you happened to be working toward being sober or being nicotine free at the moment of reading it. (Not to mention, I still honestly don't think smoking is a sin.) So, we're supposed to be in this together. How about considering a title for a thread where anyone going through the struggle of whatever just sees the title without having to go in and find out they've been condemned?

B. No, you're not guilty of my problem. Odd though that it just went from "sin" to "problem" there though. You are absolutely not responsible for what I think say or do in life. Because of that, there is no guilt. BUT you are responsible for loving others. I really do think you do love others. That's not the problem. (It's not sin either. lol) I'm asking to reconsider your choice of words and how you present your posts. They seem to immediately condemn. Maybe you go on to turn on the loving part later, but you lose me at condemnation. I'm a tough old broad now, so it's not really about me. I ache for another tough old broad on this site who is fighting a sad situation to do what the Lord would have her do, and yet, I'm sure she saw your post about "don't divorce if you're a Christian." That hurt her, and she has chosen not to divorce. That may well have talked others out of getting divorce, so they have a chance of being killed by their spouse instead. And I know at least one tough old broad who is no longer an alcoholic, but that's not to say she no longer has to struggle with it. I don't know if she does. She doesn't say.

I have not had a cigarette in the time it has taken to respond to you twice. (I type 45 wpm, so it takes a while for me to respond too. lol) That's a little victory. (Ah, man! I just typoed cigarette and now guess what I want for seeing that word again? LOL) Just, kindly...please, pretty pretty please remember to watch your words, because you lean toward condemnation and many are already feeling condemned, so don't need more.

Can you take that from this imperfect, stupid, tough old broad? (As in, I honestly know I'm too tough, so should soften my words, in other ways then you should soften yours, so take it from someone who knows I'm no better and possibly worse, but it's always good to see things in a different light as long as that light is God's light.)

 

[Jesus4ever]

You tend to think everyone thinks like you and that you think right.

Jesus brought up divorce because he knows the evil heart of man, but you think divorce is never an option. I'm married to a man who divorced under what Jesus said. He didn't make the easy decision. There are people on that Family Forum going through hell because they're making the hard decisions, but you preach easy.

You assume cigs and drugs, (now recreational drugs, so, okay, less against the concept now) are sin and so no believer would do that. Still, even with recreation drugs, some are new enough in the Lord they don't yet know to trust him instead of drugs. It takes time to get there.

You don't give room for growth, imperfection or sheer stupidity. I'm still growing, still imperfect, and still stupid. That doesn't mean I'm not a Christian. It means I'm still stupid! Give room for the possibility of others not to be so awe-inspiringly perfect. Give room for some day, maybe not now, but some day, there will be more pressing matters. Life isn't a To-Do and To-Don't List. It's following God as he leads us. Paul got it in a few short days. He still had so much more to get. Peter had his good moments and bad moments. Even denying Jesus three times didn't make him the bad guy. It made him the needy guy. Ain't we all? And then there was Jonah.

Whew, Jonah! Jonah is my encouragement guy. If God can get through to him, he can get through to me. Just keep remembering we ain't all perfect, and I may not need as much aspirin in the future. (I probably will. Did I happen to mention I'm also prone to weather-related migraines? If fronts would stop moving through, I wouldn't need aspirin at all. lol)

But, man! You're gagging me. I'm tried of being gagged by my bros and sises. When I was new in the Lord the only thing your kind of message did for me was make me question if I was even a Christian quietly. I thought everyone else was perfect, and I wasn't. What a waste of a decade!

I'm imperfect. Others are imperfect. God's working on us, so if put in the reality that some of us are stupider than others, but God's fixing us all gradually at the speed we can handle, maybe there will be less gagging.

The world gags me. I come to my bros and sises to escape from that for a bit. Not thrilled I got it here too. Really not thrilled when you talk about no divorces in front of a few people struggling over a divorce right now.

Okay? (and not a self-righteous "okay." Seriously asking if that's okay with you? As in, can we find some way of being of one accord in all this?) You're not the bad guy either, but you're pressing down people who need to be lifted up. I suspect you're closer to Peter, but I'm closer to Jonah. It weighs, especially when life isn't easy.

Ok, sister. I was thinking about answering you in detail, regarding specific parts of what you wrote, but I won´t do it. It was not my intention to be doing this when I wrote this thread. Somehow you don´t like me and somehow you assume I do things in a particular away (bad one). You see me doing things that I´ve never thought about when I write my posts.

Nevertheless, thank you for answering my question and making clear your opinion about me. I´ll take in account what you said and I´ll pray about it.

For me, this matter is closed. Like I said, I´m sorry if I offend or upset you with my posts and threads. Therefore, my apologies for that.


God bless you!

 

[Jesus4ever]

I'm assuming you're not an alcoholic, or you wouldn't be asking about alcohol. (If an alcoholic gets to the point of knowing God's against him/her getting so soused they're no good to anyone, then they trust in God to stop drinking. You're not worried about stop drinking, so you're not an alcoholic.)

Can we agree that far?

(That's the easy part, so I'm thinking we can.)

So, an alcoholic works toward never drinking again once God shines his light on that area, right?

(Again, here I think we can agree.)

Are you having a drink in front of one? Is that fair?

(And, I'm thinking we're both agreeing neither one of us would do that to a recently recovering alcoholic, so we have agreement there. The following is where agreement is turned into disagreement.)

A. How do you know this thread didn't just make a recently sober alcoholic crave a drink? I've already said I'm cutting back on smoking. I plan to quit, but I've tried that before and almost killed my cat simply because he did what he always did -- jump on top of me to settle in for a nap while I scratched him in all his favorite places. I'm kind of partial to hubby, so don't want to kill him simply because of nicotine withdraw. You throw the "we all believe" up there as if we all do believe that and as if it's no big deal to anyone reading it. It's really probably not... unless you happened to be working toward being sober or being nicotine free at the moment of reading it. (Not to mention, I still honestly don't think smoking is a sin.) So, we're supposed to be in this together. How about considering a title for a thread where anyone going through the struggle of whatever just sees the title without having to go in and find out they've been condemned?

B. No, you're not guilty of my problem. Odd though that it just went from "sin" to "problem" there though. You are absolutely not responsible for what I think say or do in life. Because of that, there is no guilt. BUT you are responsible for loving others. I really do think you do love others. That's not the problem. (It's not sin either. lol) I'm asking to reconsider your choice of words and how you present your posts. They seem to immediately condemn. Maybe you go on to turn on the loving part later, but you lose me at condemnation. I'm a tough old broad now, so it's not really about me. I ache for another tough old broad on this site who is fighting a sad situation to do what the Lord would have her do, and yet, I'm sure she saw your post about "don't divorce if you're a Christian." That hurt her, and she has chosen not to divorce. That may well have talked others out of getting divorce, so they have a chance of being killed by their spouse instead. And I know at least one tough old broad who is no longer an alcoholic, but that's not to say she no longer has to struggle with it. I don't know if she does. She doesn't say.

I have not had a cigarette in the time it has taken to respond to you twice. (I type 45 wpm, so it takes a while for me to respond too. lol) That's a little victory. (Ah, man! I just typoed cigarette and now guess what I want for seeing that word again? LOL) Just, kindly...please, pretty pretty please remember to watch your words, because you lean toward condemnation and many are already feeling condemned, so don't need more.

Can you take that from this imperfect, stupid, tough old broad? (As in, I honestly know I'm too tough, so should soften my words, in other ways then you should soften yours, so take it from someone who knows I'm no better and possibly worse, but it's always good to see things in a different light as long as that light is God's light.)

Like I said, sister, I´m truly sorry you think that way. I respect your opinion, though.

I´m glad to see that somehow you pay attention to my posts, but I´m also sorry to know that you see things that I don´t do (at least consciously).

Although I stated that I wouldn´t continue speaking about this, I believe I should answer this post of yours, because you deserve my respect, and because I didn´t see this reply.

My apologies for having made you feel that way.



God bless you!

 

[crossnote]

Ok, brothers and sister, I hope this is the right forum to speak, as I ask this in Scriptures view. Plus, this has nothing to do with clean or unclean food directly.

I´ve been wondering recently about doing, above all, God´s will and to obey Him and to follow and serve Him the best I can. So, we all know that a christian should not smoke or do drugs, I believe that´s clear. We know that even if we smoke 1 cigarette a day it won´t be good to our health. As for drugs, I think it isn´t even worth mention it (apart from alcohol).

But, what about alcohol? Scriptures are clear saying that one should not get drunk. I rarely drink it, and mostly what I consume is red wine and (very rarely, a beer). And, I drink one or two times only. I know that some brothers think that one should not even touch it, but is it a sin to drink a glass of wine during meals?

Plus, we know that there are food that is not healthy. Take fast-food, for example. Personally, I love hamburgers and pizzas. Again, some brothers and sisters state we should pay attention to the food we consume, as our body is the temple of the Holy Spirit (1 Co 6:19), that we should even avoid eating meat.


So, my question is: Is it a sin to drink any type of alcohol and eat unhealthy food, or is it ok if one "respect the limits" and consume little of it?


God bless you!

the Christians walk and MAIN focus is a walk by faith in God's promises, I don't understand the obsession with all the no-no's

 

[psychomom]

the Christians walk and MAIN focus is a walk by faith in God's promises, I don't understand the obsession with all the no-no's

surely there are members who can explain all that?

 

[maxwel]

the Christians walk and MAIN focus is a walk by faith in God's promises, I don't understand the obsession with all the no-no's

I'm pretty sure that complaining about the no-nos is a no-no.

Just trying to help.

 

[crossnote]

I'm pretty sure that complaining about the no-nos is a no-no.

Just trying to help.

C'mon Max, I'm tryin reeeel hard to be a yes on yes man...