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Interesting how the one who posted the video prefaced it with a message that those who it is speaking of will choose not to understand. Is that a fact, or is that a fact? They refuse all of this scripture, eternal things plain as day, as if of another faith, some weird, miserable religion where they are commanded not to have faith and trust, but to doubt the Lord,
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lol, I just have enough faith in God. I do not need to worry about being so called corrupted by a so called evil book. I can differentiate fantasy from reality. I do not think God is against entertainment.
I listen and play rock and roll too (christian and classic)
so I guess I am a double sinner (well according to my dad anyway)
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I've got no desire for the type of darkness of Stephen King as entertainment, but have read crime thrillers and the like, enjoy some dramas where people aren't exactly planning camp meetings. But I have no interest in trying spy out somebody else's liberties, when I have my own! If I'm in a glass house, there are no stones in sight.
No. That is not what the passage says. It says those that suffered in the flesh have ceased (stopped) from sin.
1 Peter 4:1-2 KJV
"Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin; That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God."
The passage eesentially says,
(a) Just as Christ suffered in the flesh we are to do the same thing.
(b) You are to no longer live the rest of your (not the afterlife) in the lusts of the flesh, but according to the will of God.
1 Peter 4:1-2 KJV
"Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin; That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God."
The passage eesentially says,
(a) Just as Christ suffered in the flesh we are to do the same thing.
(b) You are to no longer live the rest of your (not the afterlife) in the lusts of the flesh, but according to the will of God.
J
And thank you for throwing your thoughts in there! Paul would be saying, "Ain't that a fact." Well, Paul who works at the corner gas station. You get to the end of Romans 7, and Paul is outright relating his experience as a Christian,
Romans 7:24-25 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
Pretty much exactly what you're saying. (I have no idea what the spiritual double amputees around here claim they're walking on.)
Romans 7:24-25 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
Pretty much exactly what you're saying. (I have no idea what the spiritual double amputees around here claim they're walking on.)
Let's start with "Go and sin no more." Sorry to inform you, but that is unfortunately not in the earliest manuscripts, which means that it was added later. Much later. Now, if you want to believe Jesus actually said it, that is your business, but hermeneutically speaking, even if it was in the earliest manuscripts, you should never make a doctrine out of just one scripture.
As far a teleos, I have no idea what source you are using, but teleos is translated as "end, goal, complete, mature and sometimes (rarely) perfect." (Bauer and Danke is my source!)
As far as the paranoia, you might want to see a doctor about that! Seriously!
As far a teleos, I have no idea what source you are using, but teleos is translated as "end, goal, complete, mature and sometimes (rarely) perfect." (Bauer and Danke is my source!)
As far as the paranoia, you might want to see a doctor about that! Seriously!
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Something most peculiar is going on. Awhile back, I was viciously attacked for saying something to the effect, to somebody else, that men who go around lusting after every woman in sight need to grow up. He lashed out at me crazy-like, that I'm a liar, that every man lusts constantly, in essence, there's something wrong with anybody who isn't some sort of dirty old man.
Now, it happens again, out of the blue, that I'm somebody immaturely bashing sinless perfection. So, first I'm bad because I rebuke sin, now I'm bad for the opposite rationale. One more time, and it will be the "Three Faces of Phil." (Suppose I'll have to say something middle-of-the-road, to provoke the next attack.)
Just weird. It's such lala land anything was about him here, as I've avoided him for a long time, this tendency to go off on people, don't know what he believes, didn't even know he was one of the theophanies of ChristianChat! As stated, last encounter was quite the opposite, he complaining we're all hopelessly dirty old men. There's some sort of psych issue there.
Now, it happens again, out of the blue, that I'm somebody immaturely bashing sinless perfection. So, first I'm bad because I rebuke sin, now I'm bad for the opposite rationale. One more time, and it will be the "Three Faces of Phil." (Suppose I'll have to say something middle-of-the-road, to provoke the next attack.)
Just weird. It's such lala land anything was about him here, as I've avoided him for a long time, this tendency to go off on people, don't know what he believes, didn't even know he was one of the theophanies of ChristianChat! As stated, last encounter was quite the opposite, he complaining we're all hopelessly dirty old men. There's some sort of psych issue there.