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I agree completely. Very serious. However, if you study the scriptures, there is no place in the local body for salaries. Acts 20 Paul tells the leaders to work secular jobs so they can take care of the poor. If a man is feeding off the sheep, he is a hireling who cares not for the sheep, or he wouldn't be charging for the gospel.
J
Folks, you know what a big silver lining there is in all of this? This homo "marriage" business is a dividing line, like the knob on a pair of binoculars, bringing into focus who's who, if there were ever any doubt, previously. It's bottom line clear no Spirit-filled child of God will sign up for this agenda, preach this agenda, legislate this agenda. Many have shown who they serve, and it's very good to know who God's enemies are! It's a line drawn in the sand.
K
Paul is not saying in Acts that pastors should not be paid. Not to derail the thread...
I have not coveted anyone’s silver or gold or clothing. 34 You yourselves know that these hands of mine have supplied my own needs and the needs of my companions.In everything I did, I showed you that by this kind of hard work we must help the weak, remembering the words the Lord Jesus himself said: ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive."
There is not command there not to pay a pastor or that a pastor should work for a living.Paul is saying what he has done,not making a commandment.
[h=1]1 Timothy 5:17-18King James Version (KJV)17 Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine.18 For the scripture saith, thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn. And, The labourer is worthy of his reward.[/h]
1 Cor. 9:3-18, ...My defense to those who examine me is this: 4 Do we not have a right to eat and drink? 5 Do we not have a right to take along a believing wife, even as the rest of the apostles, and the brothers of the Lord, and Cephas? 6 Or do only Barnabas and I not have a right to refrain from working? 7 Who at any time serves as a soldier at his own expense? Who plants a vineyard, and does not eat the fruit of it? Or who tends a flock and does not use the milk of the flock? 8 I am not speaking these things according to human judgment, am I? Or does not the Law also say these things? 9 For it is written in the Law of Moses, “You shall not muzzle the ox while he is threshing.” God is not concerned about oxen, is He? 10 Or is He speaking altogether for our sake? Yes, for our sake it was written, because the plowman ought to plow in hope, and the thresher to thresh in hope of sharing the crops. 11 If we sowed spiritual things in you, is it too much if we should reap material things from you? 12 If others share the right over you, do we not more? Nevertheless, we did not use this right, but we endure all things, that we may cause no hindrance to the gospel of Christ. 13 Do you not know that those who perform sacred services eat the food of the temple, and those who attend regularly to the altar have their share with the altar? 14 So also the Lord directed those who proclaim the gospel to get their living from the gospel.
I traveled in the ministry for 20yrs. Without the support of the church we would not have been able to continue. Yes the gospel is free but getting it to people is not unless you have no church at all and meet in a farmers field.I dont want my pastor focused on a worldly job, I want them focused on growing the church by reaching out to the community and to be available to anyone who needs him. I had a family tragedy several years ago and needed prayer.Called the church,no one there.Called the pastor and wife at home and on cells no answer. I went to the church and the janitor and his wife were there and prayed with us. No,I want my pastor focused on Gods work and he should be paid to do so.
J
That's a fact. Nothing surprising going on here, if you subscribe to Bible teachings on the approaching end times, the homosexuality aspects of an approaching dire falling away right there in scripture, times as Noah or Lot. Again, I'm glad that, at least, some lines are being drawn. It may help people see who's who, even bring many closer to the Lord, to see and learn to reject the false, see who their friends are, or aren't, get serious and decide who they will serve.
Romans 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
Romans 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.