I am concerned about pastors

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Blain

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So this whole gay marriage thing is in every state right? Well I was just laying in bed trying to sleep when I thought of something, pastor are the ones who do the marriage thing right? Well if I am right about that then they have a choice they can stay true to their beliefs knowing it's illegal and not marry the two gays or confirm and marry them. I don't know what the punishment is for not marrying them but it seems they are in a point where they will have to make a choice and show who they believe in in who they stand for and what is in their hearts.
 
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So this whole gay marriage thing is in every state right? Well I was just laying in bed trying to sleep when I thought of something, pastor are the ones who do the marriage thing right? Well if I am right about that then they have a choice they can stay true to their beliefs knowing it's illegal and not marry the two gays or confirm and marry them. I don't know what the punishment is for not marrying them but it seems they are in a point where they will have to make a choice and show who they believe in in who they stand for and what is in their hearts.
Churches are not required to marry homosexuals. Freedom of religion is still there and pastors can exercise their religious freedom by not marrying homosexuals
 
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Many states (governors) signed a bill prior to the US Supreme Court ruling which stated that pastors did not have to violate their bible beliefs on this matter. We will see if this protection will hold.
 

Agricola

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IN UK we are not offering that protection. Anyone who has a licence to marry has to comply with the law, so if 2 homoseuxals approach someone with the licence to marry them, then they can not refuse, if they do they could be prosecuted. This is reason why my Pastor has never taken up the option to be able to legally marry people.
 

Angela53510

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Canada enshrined the freedom to be able to refuse to marry for reasons of religious beliefs in the same bill that allowed same-sex marriage.

That makes it pretty hard to go after pastors for refusing to marry, in fact, almost impossible.
 
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popeye

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In think where the last stand will be made for pastors is in the hate crime arena.

Could be pastors making the stand that homo's go to hell,will be labeled haters.Not right away. but that will come,as the door has been opened for the next step.

Remember,there IS a 30 or so day window to repeal this thing.

BTW,This demon homo spirit will insist on brazen perversion for us and or offspring to witness openly in restaurants and other public places.
 
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Rosesrock

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We see where that got us. I agree but i think most pastors will cave. As i said before, if abortion doesnt anger people enough then why should this. Just yesterday the president of a well know christian organization for my state said, well whats done is done. This passiveness about sin turns my stomach
 
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popeye

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Remember folks.
Lot was the picture jesus painted to describe the end. So,in a sense,this all kinda has to be.

See how it works? "............gave them over to a reprobate mind"

IOW,they themselves prophesy,accelerate, and advance the impending judgement.

We look at them,offer heaven,get rejected (by most,not all),take a few with us,and look to heaven where our focus should always be.
 
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BradC

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IN UK we are not offering that protection. Anyone who has a licence to marry has to comply with the law, so if 2 homoseuxals approach someone with the licence to marry them, then they can not refuse, if they do they could be prosecuted. This is reason why my Pastor has never taken up the option to be able to legally marry people.
What a terrible thing for pastors or for anyone licensed by a state or province to have to comply with. They are challenging and directly opposing scriptural convictions and dogma by invoking a law upon the clergy. I am sure there are ways around it but to even have to deal with that because of a mandated law of the land in atrocious. We will see what will happen here in the states in the next few years and just how far this will go.
 

notuptome

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This will make it easier to separate the sheep from the goats. There are already several denominations ready and willing to embrace this perverted behavior.

When the wicked are in authority the people mourn.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

Blain

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This will make it easier to separate the sheep from the goats. There are already several denominations ready and willing to embrace this perverted behavior.

When the wicked are in authority the people mourn.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
What? theres no way:eek: which denominations is that?
 
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Mitspa

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This will make it easier to separate the sheep from the goats. There are already several denominations ready and willing to embrace this perverted behavior.

When the wicked are in authority the people mourn.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
Yea one good thing about this whole mess is that it will be more evident what some of these so-called men of God really believe.
 

p_rehbein

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So this whole gay marriage thing is in every state right? Well I was just laying in bed trying to sleep when I thought of something, pastor are the ones who do the marriage thing right? Well if I am right about that then they have a choice they can stay true to their beliefs knowing it's illegal and not marry the two gays or confirm and marry them. I don't know what the punishment is for not marrying them but it seems they are in a point where they will have to make a choice and show who they believe in in who they stand for and what is in their hearts.
According to the Government, Pastors will not be forced to conduct such ceremonies.........but don't count on the Government (in due time) trying to force them to. There is already a move afoot to punish Pastors, Churches who do not agree to perform such ceremonies by removing their Tax Exempt status.

Now, no matter what Law is past, the Government can not FORCE any Pastor to perform such a ceremony. However, the Pastor must be willing to suffer any and all consequences they may suffer because of their stand for the Word of God.

We shall see (in days to come) how all this plays out, and how many believers are willing to take a stand.
 

p_rehbein

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What? theres no way:eek: which denominations is that?
As I understand, some of the more liberal Lutheran churches are already conducting ceremonies for same sex couples. Don't know their exact "title" though.
 

Yet

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You r all missing the bigger picture. This is Gods judgment on a 'church' that is out of order and thus far, has refused to get in order! Plain and simple. I'm a simple man with the simple message to the ekklesia!
I can here Reh sighing. Oh well. The truth is the truth though not well received!
 
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Rosesrock

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According to the Government, Pastors will not be forced to conduct such ceremonies.........but don't count on the Government (in due time) trying to force them to. There is already a move afoot to punish Pastors, Churches who do not agree to perform such ceremonies by removing their Tax Exempt status.

Now, no matter what Law is past, the Government can not FORCE any Pastor to perform such a ceremony. However, the Pastor must be willing to suffer any and all consequences they may suffer because of their stand for the Word of God.

We shall see (in days to come) how all this plays out, and how many believers are willing to take a stand.
Such an agenda
 

p_rehbein

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You r all missing the bigger picture. This is Gods judgment on a 'church' that is out of order and thus far, has refused to get in order! Plain and simple. I'm a simple man with the simple message to the ekklesia!
I can here Reh sighing. Oh well. The truth is the truth though not well received!
So funny..............and so true.......

Never pass up a good chance to crap on the Church do ya?

:)

...............SIGH............ (can make the font bigger if it helps......)
 
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Mitspa

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You r all missing the bigger picture. This is Gods judgment on a 'church' that is out of order and thus far, has refused to get in order! Plain and simple. I'm a simple man with the simple message to the ekklesia!
I can here Reh sighing. Oh well. The truth is the truth though not well received!
Yet I often agree with you, but I think when the Lord starts judging these folks it will be very clear...we wont need to guess if its Gods judgment?
 

breno785au

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Yet I often agree with you, but I think when the Lord starts judging these folks it will be very clear...we wont need to guess if its Gods judgment?
Oh Mitspa, a prophet never guesses :rolleyes:
 
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Miri

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IN UK we are not offering that protection. Anyone who has a licence to marry has to comply with the law, so if 2 homoseuxals approach someone with the licence to marry them, then they can not refuse, if they do they could be prosecuted. This is reason why my Pastor has never taken up the option to be able to legally marry people.

Thats not correct, see the following from the government web site.

https://www.gov.uk/marriages-civil-partnerships/religious-ceremonies


[h=1]6. Religious ceremonies[/h]A religious wedding can take place at a church, chapel or other registered religious building. Religious blessing can take place after a civil ceremony in a register office.
You can’t get married in an Anglican Church as a same sex couple.

You can get married in other religious buildings if:


  • the religious organisation allows the marriage of same sex couples to take place
  • the premises has been registered for the marriage of same sex couples