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Jesus never lies, that would be sin. He told a parable about the tares and the wheat using a physical scenario pointing to a Spiritual understanding.
If what He said was true and it surely is why do gardeners go out every morning and pluck the weeds out of there gardens. Considering what Jesus said shouldn't they leave the weeds for a better harvest?
 
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Jesus never lies, that would be sin. He told a parable about the tares and the wheat using a physical scenario pointing to a Spiritual understanding.
If what He said was true and it surely is why do gardeners go out every morning and pluck the weeds out of there gardens. Considering what Jesus said shouldn't they leave the weeds for a better harvest?
Tares are a particular kind of weed. They look just like the grain they grow with. No farmer would pull those weeds out, because they couldn't tell the difference between that weed and the actual crop. Tares are also poisonous. The only way to remove tares from the grain is by winnowing. The grain goes one way, the tare seeds float away.

That's why Jesus told that parable. He didn't want people yanking out tares, because it's a 50/50 chance of yanking out an hones grain instead. And yet, the tare is poison to the church, so the church has to stand guard against the poison from infecting the whole of the crop. In the end though, God does the winnowing. He knows the tare from the crop.
 

Magenta

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Jesus never lies, that would be sin. He told a parable about the tares and the wheat using a physical scenario pointing to a Spiritual understanding.
If what He said was true and it surely is why do gardeners go out every morning and pluck the weeds out of there gardens. Considering what Jesus said shouldn't they leave the weeds for a better harvest?
Leaving the weeds would not result in a better harvest.
 
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This requires some knowledge of what "tares" and "wheat" look like. The average gardener (we Christians) cannot really distinguish the difference in the early stages of their growth.
 
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Leaving the weeds would not result in a better harvest.
Weeds are a funny thing. I pull out what I can, only when I'm sure it really is a weed (instead of a volunteer from a plant I do want. Got lots of grape tomatoes one year, when we never bought any, by not picking out "weeds" until I could figure out if they were weeds. lol) I also can't pull weeds if they lodge themselves too close to a sapling. For a while there, the weeds were taking over the scallion bed. It had to be, because the scallions were still tiny, so pulling the weeds would also pull 2-3 scallions. The scallions were just mature enough to handle me yanking out the weeds last week. (Boy! That container looks like a lot less plants in it, but the scallions can mature now without fighting for water an nutrients with those weeds.)

I really do think Jesus was training us by giving us a view from a farmer's take on something. Weeds need to be removed, but not all the time. We simply have to bide our time to decide if the plant is a weed, and if it's safe to remove the weed.
 
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Great answers..Thanks. This post can be closed. Wish all answers to posts could be a resolution in the same fashion... direct and to the point with no need to drag it out into diff subjects and arguments.
Makes it so much easier on the readers to keep the focus.
 

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amen to that brother!! be nice to have some real discussion for a change, instead of the daily trying to convince " perfect" people that they ain't!!
 

crossnote

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amen to that brother!! be nice to have some real discussion for a change, instead of the daily trying to convince " perfect" people that they ain't!!
My only gripe :mad: was no Scripture reference was given at the outset...it usually helps :)

Matthew 13:24-30 (KJV)
24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
 
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Nov 14, 2012
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Jesus never lies, that would be sin. He told a parable about the tares and the wheat using a physical scenario pointing to a Spiritual understanding.
If what He said was true and it surely is why do gardeners go out every morning and pluck the weeds out of there gardens. Considering what Jesus said shouldn't they leave the weeds for a better harvest?
Wheat and Tares look the same. I don't believe he was talking about gardening or farming. True Christians and fake Christians look the same
 
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Oops, sorry. I posted before I read it was closed
 
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But I did give scriptual reference-Jesus, parable , tares and the wheat. If you google that it will come up with what you consider as scriptual references. The way I refer causes the reader to search the scriptures which is a good thing yes? It also saves space on the harddrives of the servers which keeps the cost down so my offerings to support this website are wisely spent. I could instead use the money for cable internet and use my laptip or desktop to cipy past scripture real easily, but I think my choic in using my phone connection serves a better purpose. And if I had to type the whole scriptures just to ask a question that was answered by a few superbly with my way of referencing perhaps I wouldn't have time in the day to read other OPs that I enjoy so much. Lets all do our part to keep this God inspired website at a lowered cost and a blessing for all who seek the Lord.
 

Angela53510

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I am a gardener, but maybe Jesus was not talking about a vegetable garden or flowers?

I do pull out the weeds the minute they start to grow. Unless they are entwined around the produce. Then I carefully cut them, so they don't grow. Some plants continue to grow if you do that, though. So better to just leave them, I guess.
 
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I honestly think Jesus was trying to show us (despite what we vehemently fight for as our "right") that the determination of what is weeds, and what is not, is up to Him, not us.

I think we spend more time concerned about if others are doing what we think they SHOULD be doing, than we do looking at our own lives.
 
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I honestly think Jesus was trying to show us (despite what we vehemently fight for as our "right") that the determination of what is weeds, and what is not, is up to Him, not us.

I think we spend more time concerned about if others are doing what we think they SHOULD be doing, than we do looking at our own lives.
I totally agree with this! :)
 
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Jesus never lies, that would be sin. He told a parable about the tares and the wheat using a physical scenario pointing to a Spiritual understanding.
If what He said was true and it surely is why do gardeners go out every morning and pluck the weeds out of there gardens. Considering what Jesus said shouldn't they leave the weeds for a better harvest?
Ha! You sound like a lawyer. Jesus was speaking figuratively, obviously. He was trying to teach us an important lesson. We should learn that lesson. There is nothing wrong with raising questions about what he said, but if we don't learn the lesson, then a great opportunity to advance further into the kingdom of heaven is lost.