How do you view "tithing" in the modern church?
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Ha ha, yes I see some of that in my own church.
You said it above, it's not possible to out give God.
Ive lost count over the years of the number of times I have given something to
someone and later received an unexpected cheque in the post, or some thing else,
although I never give to receive.
The first instance - Many years ago when I was 18 I left school after finishing 6th form
college and started my first job. That job was provided by God, i walked in and the
person interviewing me was a Christian (I only found this out later), he just gave me the
job without even asking me much at all. (This also happened at another job interview
some years later). I was so green and quiet as a mouse i really didn't know what to say
to him. I think he felt a bit sorrow for me!
Salaries were paid the last week of each month but because I started on the last week
there wasn't enough time to get everything sorted for pay day.
This meant I had to work 5 weeks before getting paid.
My Aunt was on sick but for reasons unknown she was forced to sign off sick and go on a two
month course. She got paid weekly but the money was a pittance and just slightly above
the benefits level. (After two months they put her back on sick again!). It took 2 weeks
for her money to get sorted for that training course.
We could not afford the rent so I contacted the landlord and explained the situation, they
agreed it was ok for me to pay 5 weeks rent in one go when I eventually got paid.
I couldn't afford the bus fare so walked two miles to work and back every day, my Aunt
managed to get a free bus pass through the training scheme.
We were struggling to pay the other bills and there wasn't much left over for food.
We didn't tell anyone about our situation but prayed about it.
Guess what, another distant relative who wasn't even a Christian turned up on 3
occasions with bags of food! Then another person turned up one day with a
sack of potatoes!
We were so poor but we laughed and felt so blessed!
When I did get paid I paid off the rent, and we managed to get ourselves back
on track.
It always makes me laugh when I hear young people discussing what they will buy with
their first wage, usually this is bags, shoes etc. For me it was paying the rent!
But God provided for us - both the job and the food.
N
Give and you will receive is the most quoted scripture, the least is the motives for giving. The scripture also says, 'its better to give than receive.' Logic from understanding basic things about what the lord sees in our motives tells us this--we never give to receive. If giving to receive is our motive, then our motive for giving is selfish, we give only to be blessed. God doesn't bless wrong motives, nor does he bless wrong desires. We give to bless and not to be blessed. When we give with the right motive we expect nothing in return, moreover, receiving something in return is not present in our mind. God does bless our giving, when a right motive for giving is present, and not selfish.
I guess I look at it more from a practical basis. The bunch of us called "the church" have chosen to take on certain financial obligations that have to be met. I think it is pretty thoughtless not to provide the people paying those bills with a fairly accurate expectation of what funds they have to work with.
We "tithe" a certain consistent % each week.... and then our "giving" is added to that as needs arise, and if we have money to meet them. The most we have ever been able to "give" (above our regular tithe) has been $600 once. I know one couple with more money than we have who once gave $6,000. They have probably done this many times over the years. We are often able to give $200, or so, every now and then.
Let's face it, we are called to do things and provide services for others that just plain take hard, green cash. It will come from no other place but our wallets.
We "tithe" a certain consistent % each week.... and then our "giving" is added to that as needs arise, and if we have money to meet them. The most we have ever been able to "give" (above our regular tithe) has been $600 once. I know one couple with more money than we have who once gave $6,000. They have probably done this many times over the years. We are often able to give $200, or so, every now and then.
Let's face it, we are called to do things and provide services for others that just plain take hard, green cash. It will come from no other place but our wallets.
S
I used to have the mindset of Jason many years ago. I was stuck in the literal letter without understanding the message that letter contained. But I knew in my heart I could not live up to what I was preaching to other, it was powerless.
As a poster said earlier. Only the holy spirit can bring you to understand grace. Others can tell you of it, but it will mean nothing unless the holy spirit opens your eyes to the truth of what you are being told
As a poster said earlier. Only the holy spirit can bring you to understand grace. Others can tell you of it, but it will mean nothing unless the holy spirit opens your eyes to the truth of what you are being told
Giving goes beyond tithing also....if I know and can see someone is in need and I am able to help I try to do so.... to the Blond this is part of brotherly love.....
Even beyond that is time and talent.... not everyone has money to give but they may have time to do something at the church that is needed to be done.... or talent also a good thing to give at church whatever you are good at. Singing etc....
Even beyond that is time and talent.... not everyone has money to give but they may have time to do something at the church that is needed to be done.... or talent also a good thing to give at church whatever you are good at. Singing etc....
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Tithing is taxes for a nation.
Tithing has nothing to do with our Christian life. Tithing is taxes for a nation, believers and unbelievers.
Malachi 3:9~~New American Standard Bible
"You are cursed with a curse, for you are robbing Me, the whole nation of you!
Tithing goes into the Storehouse(Treasury)........our IRS.
Not only do we have citizens that cheat but our treasury(IRS) also cheats the citizens and God.
Tithing is taxes for Gods client nation. It is not a part of the Church.
Tithing has nothing to do with our Christian life. Tithing is taxes for a nation, believers and unbelievers.
Malachi 3:9~~New American Standard Bible
"You are cursed with a curse, for you are robbing Me, the whole nation of you!
Tithing goes into the Storehouse(Treasury)........our IRS.
Not only do we have citizens that cheat but our treasury(IRS) also cheats the citizens and God.
Tithing is taxes for Gods client nation. It is not a part of the Church.
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Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me.
Luk 18:23 And when he heard this, he was very sorrowful: for he was very rich.
Luk 18:24 And when Jesus saw that he was very sorrowful, he said, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God!
Luk 18:25 For it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
Luk 18:23 And when he heard this, he was very sorrowful: for he was very rich.
Luk 18:24 And when Jesus saw that he was very sorrowful, he said, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God!
Luk 18:25 For it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.