Anyone up on the four kinds of offerings?

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atwhatcost

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This is going to be hard to believe, but I've studied the four offerings of the OT Law, all the way through in Leviticus, and yet STILL cannot get the what-fors. So, can someone help me get it?

So here are the four kinds:
1. Sin offering.
2. Burnt offering.
3. Peace offering.
4. Thanksgiving offering.
(Read Num. 6:13-15 if you haven't caught on to there are four kinds of offerings. And don't feel so bad, if you haven't, because I have missed this for decades. lol)

Three of them make senses. Sin because we must repent. Peace because we must make peace after repenting. Thanksgiving, because... well, he's worthy of thanking and who doesn't want to thank him when he gives us good things? But what in the world is the burnt offering for?
 
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The first few chapters of Leviticus, particularly Leviticus 1 should answer your question. There are even other OT sacrifices (ie: freewill offerings, trespass offerings, etc.)

Almost all the sacrifices in the OT were burnt offerings. The concept of which is that the savoury smell and also the spirit of the sacrifice would ascend to the heavens, even to God for to make atonement or give thanks. Knowing that the OT law is a shadow one can see the obvious parallel to Jesus as he was sacrificed and ascended to the heavens to make atonement for man and give thanks to God.
 
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this is a good thinking and learning thread, atwhatcost.

GodIsSalvation,
you pretty much nailed it...

one other aspect is that we are all deserving to be burnt up in the lake of fire, for we have all been sinned -
but, Christ is our Sweet Savor to God, therefore, let us present our bodies as an acceptable offering to the
service of God the Father and Jesus Christ, His Son.
 
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Miri

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This is going to be hard to believe, but I've studied the four offerings of the OT Law, all the way through in Leviticus, and yet STILL cannot get the what-fors. So, can someone help me get it?

So here are the four kinds:
1. Sin offering.
2. Burnt offering.
3. Peace offering.
4. Thanksgiving offering.
(Read Num. 6:13-15 if you haven't caught on to there are four kinds of offerings. And don't feel so bad, if you haven't, because I have missed this for decades. lol)

Three of them make senses. Sin because we must repent. Peace because we must make peace after repenting. Thanksgiving, because... well, he's worthy of thanking and who doesn't want to thank him when he gives us good things? But what in the world is the burnt offering for?

You do pose the most interesting questions :)

As far as I can tell the burnt offering was the most common of all, there were to
be continuous burnt offerings.

Years ago I was taught that the first mention of something in the bible is very
significant and points to its meaning later on.

The first burnt offering seems to have been made following the flood, it's interesting
that God smelled the aroma. I think in some way it may be representative of a reminder
to God of his promises - not that he is forgetful but that
maybe it is a reminder of the covenants and promises in place between God and man.
Kind of like a handshake. I suspect there is also an element of prayer there.


There are many promises in the bible, the promise of forgiveness, of atonement for
sin, the promise not to destroy every living thing again despite the sin - which was
pacified by the burnt offering. The promise to Abraham etc.



Genesis 8:20-21 NKJV
[20] Then Noah built an altar to the LORD, and took of every clean animal and of every
clean bird, and offered burnt offerings on the altar. [21] And the LORD smelled a
soothing aroma. Then the LORD said in His heart, "I will never again curse the ground
for man's sake, although the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; nor
will I again destroy every living thing as I have done.




Genesis 22:8-18 NKJV
[8] And Abraham said, "My son, God will provide for Himself the lamb for a burnt
offering." So the two of them went together. [9] Then they came to the place
of which God had told him. And Abraham built an altar there and placed the
wood in order; and he bound Isaac his son and laid him on the altar, upon
the wood. [10] And Abraham stretched out his hand and took the knife to slay his son.
[11] But the Angel of the LORD called to him from heaven and said,
"Abraham, Abraham!" So he said, "Here I am." [12] And He said, "Do not lay your
hand on the lad, or do anything to him; for now I know that you fear God,
since you have not withheld your son, your only son, from Me." [13] Then
Abraham lifted his eyes and looked, and there behind him was a ram caught
in a thicket by its horns. So Abraham went and took the ram, and offered it
up for a burnt offering instead of his son. [14] And Abraham called the name
of the place, The-LORD-Will-Provide; as it is said to this day, "In the Mount
of the LORD it shall be provided." [15] Then the Angel of the LORD called
to Abraham a second time out of heaven, [16] and said: "By Myself I have sworn,
says the LORD, because you have done this thing, and have not withheld your
son, your only son- [17] blessing I will bless you, and multiplying I will multiply
your descendants as the stars of the heaven and as the sand which is on the
seashore; and your descendants shall possess the gate of their enemies.
[18] In your seed all the nations of the earth shall be blessed, because you have
obeyed My voice."





Exodus 29:42-46 NKJV
[42] This shall be a continual burnt offering throughout your generations at the door
of the tabernacle of meeting before the LORD, where I will meet you to speak with
you. [43] And there I will meet with the children of Israel, and the tabernacle shall
be sanctified by My glory
. [44] So I will consecrate the tabernacle of meeting and
the altar. I will also consecrate both Aaron and his sons to minister to Me as priests.
[45] I will dwell among the children of Israel and will be their God. [46] And they
shall know that I am the LORD their God, who brought them up out of the land of
Egypt, that I may dwell among them. I am the LORD their God
.




Exodus 29:18 NKJV
[18] And you shall burn the whole ram on the altar. It is a burnt offering to the LORD;
it is a sweet aroma, an offering made by fire to the LORD.


Leviticus 1:17 NKJV
[17] Then he shall split it at its wings, but shall not divide it completely; and the priest
shall burn it on the altar, on the wood that is on the fire. It is a burnt sacrifice, an
offering made by fire, a sweet aroma to the LORD.


There are many more versus which mention this sweet aroma to God in respect
of burnt offerings. This is just my theory anyway, maybe others will have different ideas.


By the way we have frequent burnt offerings in my kitchen. :)
 
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atwhatcost

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The first few chapters of Leviticus, particularly Leviticus 1 should answer your question. There are even other OT sacrifices (ie: freewill offerings, trespass offerings, etc.)

Almost all the sacrifices in the OT were burnt offerings. The concept of which is that the savoury smell and also the spirit of the sacrifice would ascend to the heavens, even to God for to make atonement or give thanks. Knowing that the OT law is a shadow one can see the obvious parallel to Jesus as he was sacrificed and ascended to the heavens to make atonement for man and give thanks to God.
Clearly "burnt offering" was something besides merely burning most of the offerings.
[h=1]Numbers 6:13-15[/h]13 And this is the law of the Nazarite, when the days of his separation are fulfilled: he shall be brought unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation:
14 And he shall offer his offering unto the Lord, one he lamb of the first year without blemish for a burnt offering, and one ewe lamb of the first year without blemish for a sin offering, and one ram without blemish for peace offerings,
15 And a basket of unleavened bread, cakes of fine flour mingled with oil, and wafers of unleavened bread anointed with oil, and their meat offering, and their drink offerings.
 
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Clearly "burnt offering" was something besides merely burning most of the offerings.
Numbers 6:13-15

13 And this is the law of the Nazarite, when the days of his separation are fulfilled: he shall be brought unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation:
14 And he shall offer his offering unto the Lord, one he lamb of the first year without blemish for a burnt offering, and one ewe lamb of the first year without blemish for a sin offering, and one ram without blemish for peace offerings,
15 And a basket of unleavened bread, cakes of fine flour mingled with oil, and wafers of unleavened bread anointed with oil, and their meat offering, and their drink offerings.
Exodus 29 be a good chapter for to answer your wonderings then.
 
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atwhatcost

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Exodus 29 be a good chapter for to answer your wonderings then.
I have and just did again. Definitely something about an aroma to God, but outside of that, I still don't get it. The incenses are an aroma to God too, but I don't get the purpose.

Miri might well be right. I just don't get where she gets that either. God has purpose in everything he does, so I'm trying to understand this purpose.

I've been wondering if it isn't somehow connected to the Lord's Prayer, since I can see the other sacrifices fitting into parts of it.

"Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive others." (Sin offering.)
"And lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil." (Peace offering.)
"For thine is the kingdom, the power, the glory, forever and ever." (Thanksgiving offering.)

Burnt offering? I got nothing, but quite possible because I don't get what it is.
:confused:
 
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wwjd_kilden

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Just to digress. I don't think "For thine is the kingdom, the power, the glory, forever and ever" is in the original bible

anyway, I think the idea behind the burnt offering is to give it all (rather than keep some to themselves to eat later).
 
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I have and just did again. Definitely something about an aroma to God, but outside of that, I still don't get it. The incenses are an aroma to God too, but I don't get the purpose.

Miri might well be right. I just don't get where she gets that either. God has purpose in everything he does, so I'm trying to understand this purpose.

I've been wondering if it isn't somehow connected to the Lord's Prayer, since I can see the other sacrifices fitting into parts of it.

"Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive others." (Sin offering.)
"And lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil." (Peace offering.)
"For thine is the kingdom, the power, the glory, forever and ever." (Thanksgiving offering.)

Burnt offering? I got nothing, but quite possible because I don't get what it is.
:confused:
Try verses 38-46 of the same chapter (Exodus 29). You will notice it is the lamb that is offered daily. Remind you of any NT parallels perhaps? :)
 

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There are three basic types of offering/sacrifice. Burnt, Sin and Peace. All other general offerings/sacrifices are varieties of these.


The burnt offering expressed wholehearted worship, dedication and atonement.

The sin offering was as a means of bringing forgiveness, personal or national, and atonement of sin.

The peace offering was a more general offering which could usually be participated of by the offeror and his family. It expressed thanksgiving, praise and worship, and was an atonement offering.

This is of course an overall generalisation as there were many variations on the theme.

Peace offerings were by far the most common and were regularly voluntary offerings
 
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Miri

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The Noah story does mention soothing aroma.

Maybe in some way it satisfied Gods anger - in the same way as the incense did when the
plague spread - maybe there wasn't time to kill an animal and burn it on that occasion as
the plague was spreading too quickly. Presumably the incense would have given off an
aroma and reminded God of his covenant promises and also it showed that the people
understood them and we're still willing to adhere to them.

Or maybe I have got it all wrong.



Numbers 16:46-50 NKJV
[46] So Moses said to Aaron, "Take a censer and put fire in it from the altar, put incense
on it, and take it quickly to the congregation and make atonement for them; for wrath
has gone out from the LORD. The plague has begun." [47] Then Aaron took it as Moses
commanded, and ran into the midst of the assembly; and already the plague had begun
among the people. So he put in the incense and made atonement for the people.
[48] And he stood between the dead and the living; so the plague was stopped.
[49] Now those who died in the plague were fourteen thousand seven hundred, besides
those who died in the Korah incident.
[50] So Aaron returned to Moses at the door of the tabernacle of meeting, for the
plague had stopped.





We need someone who understands the original language and/or traditions.

MarcR and Angela53510 where are ya :)
 

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This is going to be hard to believe, but I've studied the four offerings of the OT Law, all the way through in Leviticus, and yet STILL cannot get the what-fors. So, can someone help me get it?

So here are the four kinds:
1. Sin offering.
2. Burnt offering.
3. Peace offering.
4. Thanksgiving offering.
(Read Num. 6:13-15 if you haven't caught on to there are four kinds of offerings. And don't feel so bad, if you haven't, because I have missed this for decades. lol)

Three of them make senses. Sin because we must repent. Peace because we must make peace after repenting. Thanksgiving, because... well, he's worthy of thanking and who doesn't want to thank him when he gives us good things? But what in the world is the burnt offering for?
There was also the trespass offering, the wave offering, and the purification offering. The Burnt offering sacrifice was the most important of all the sacrifices. The offering of the animal with its accompanying drink offering and meal offering was to represent the consecration of the worshiper to his God. What the worshiper was signifying in this offering was 'All that I am and have I consecrate to God for his good pleasure.'
 
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Leviticus 1 - Burnt Offering - Voluntary
Leviticus 2 - Grain Offering - Voluntary
Leviticus 3 - Peace Offering - Voluntary - Fellowship with others
Leviticus 4 - Sin Offering - Unintentional Sin
Leviticus 5 - Guilt Offering - Dealt with Sin towards others

It's hard to keep all of the animals necessary for these today.
 
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Miri

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Leviticus 1 - Burnt Offering - Voluntary
Leviticus 2 - Grain Offering - Voluntary
Leviticus 3 - Peace Offering - Voluntary - Fellowship with others
Leviticus 4 - Sin Offering - Unintentional Sin
Leviticus 5 - Guilt Offering - Dealt with Sin towards others

It's hard to keep all of the animals necessary for these today.

Thank goodness we don't need to - Jesus the sacrifice once and for all :)
 
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We sometimes use incense as in Revelation as a symbol of our prayers going to God. We also encourage people to give of their time, talent and treasure to God.
 
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Try verses 38-46 of the same chapter (Exodus 29). You will notice it is the lamb that is offered daily. Remind you of any NT parallels perhaps? :)
Yes, the little bell rang off in my head when I read that. (I do see Jesus in the OT on occasion. Not quite up there in being able to see him like the Dead Guys I read, but he does surprise me every so often. lol) I keep thinking "Jesus" whenever I see sacrifice and lamb together. I get the sin offering for obvious reasons. I even get laying on of hands, but not completely, because sometimes they drop that goat off in the wilderness. See? I do get some of it, but it forever seems like I missing obvious points all together. (Frustrates me to know end.)
 
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(Hey, Miri, OH is pretty good too. lol)

There was also the trespass offering, the wave offering, and the purification offering. The Burnt offering sacrifice was the most important of all the sacrifices. The offering of the animal with its accompanying drink offering and meal offering was to represent the consecration of the worshiper to his God. What the worshiper was signifying in this offering was 'All that I am and have I consecrate to God for his good pleasure.'
Minor thingy -- isn't the wave offering aka "Thanksgiving Offering?" Sorta like showing God, "Look at what you gave us! Thank you so much" kind of thing?

(And just trying to get burnt offering, I'm not going to go for the trifecta and understand tress pass offering too on the same day. lol)

And, consecration as a "burn me up and thoroughly consume me, God, I'm here" kind of thing? Now that makes sense to me.

(Sorry, everyone else. Sometimes every may be saying the same thing, but certain words get through, but others don't. That's why I have trouble figuring this stuff out, ad also why I sometimes ask people to say the same thing in different words.)

So, how is aroma involved? (Blame that on Mira. She's the one who got me wondering about smells. lol)
 
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atwhatcost

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Leviticus 1 - Burnt Offering - Voluntary
Leviticus 2 - Grain Offering - Voluntary
Leviticus 3 - Peace Offering - Voluntary - Fellowship with others
Leviticus 4 - Sin Offering - Unintentional Sin
Leviticus 5 - Guilt Offering - Dealt with Sin towards others

It's hard to keep all of the animals necessary for these today.
Well, since Jesus gave the one and only offering to cover all of these, I'm not so worried about the cattle population of the 21st century. lol
 

KohenMatt

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Point of Interest.....

When Israel gave their offerings to God, the Levites got to eat.
If Israel didn't give, the Levites didn't eat.

When the Body of Messiah gives offerings to God, we all as priests (1 Peter 2:9) get to eat.
When they don't give, we don't get to eat.