Rape

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
E

ELECT

Guest
#1
Is it right for a woman who is raped to abort the child ?:confused:
 
G

Galahad

Guest
#2
Is it right for a woman who is raped to abort the child ?:confused:
Rape has to be one of the most terrible crimes upon another person.

To my knowledge pregnancy is rare in such a case.

With prayer. With understanding. And by relying on the Lord for strength, the mother can be strong in her spirit and will to carry and give birth to the baby.

I believe it is wrong. The baby is a human. Has a soul and spirit. Rape, as bad as it is, is not a license to commit another crime.
 
S

Siberian_Khatru

Guest
#3
Most - if not all - of the Christian responses you'll receive will more or less be a staunch "No." Whether it's right or wrong is ultimately determined by the victim of circumstance.

My heart truly goes out to victims of rape, no matter their decision to abort or not. I can't even imagine...
 
Last edited:
G

Galahad

Guest
#4
Is it right for a woman who is raped to abort the child ?:confused:
'

Elect, why the confused smiley? What are you confused about?

I'm a man and so I'm not the most qualified to speak about this issue. Hope you are not facing the circumstance you ask about.

Just curious what you might be confused about specifically. I have, however, noticed you used "child" in your question. That tells me you probably recognize the baby is human. Is precious life. Not a "blob" or just a cell.
 
A

atwhatcost

Guest
#5
Is it right for a woman who is raped to abort the child ?:confused:
It is right for a woman who was raped to both seek God's help and help from professionals ASAP. It is right for a woman who was rape to pray big-time to God to help her make her decision of what to do if she does become pregnant. It is right for her to consider all options, and, with God's word and grace to choose the one that is best for her. It is probably a good idea to have this settled in her mind before she finds out if she is or isn't, because if she finds out she isn't, she's going to spend quite some time thanking God for that. And, if she is she's going to doubt her first decision more than once.

And it is very, very right for the rest of us to NOT JUDGE HER ON THAT DECISION OR EVEN THINK WE HAVE THE OBLIGATION TO PLAYFULLY PLAY THIS GAME ON THE INTERNET, as if we have the right to do that at all.

So says the lady who had three weeks to go from being raped to finding out what happens next. Hard enough to go through all that without finding some damn thread online to make the matter harder to decide.
 
G

Galahad

Guest
#6
Most - if not all - of the Christian responses you'll receive will more or less be a staunch "No." Whether it's right or wrong is ultimately determined by the victim of circumstance.

My heart truly goes out to victims of rape, no matter their decision to abort or not. I can't even imagine...
Yes, it is unimaginable, especially for men.

But I don't know what you mean by staunch.

I don't believe it is right, but I am not uncaring or cold about my belief.

Christians would be loving and caring in their help to such a situation, giving support to the woman.

Staunch sounds empty. No compassion, no patience, no prayer, no understanding.

Perhaps I have misinterpreted the response.
 

jb

Senior Member
Feb 27, 2010
4,940
586
113
#7
Is it right for a woman who is raped to abort the child ?:confused:
It's VERY easy for a male to pass judgement that aborting an embryo (or early fetus) (as resultant from rape) as wrong, however, the trauma of being raped is also VERY real and there are (Christian) women who simply could not carry the pregency through to the full 40 weeks and so aborting it is an option that they can follow, I personally can see the necessity for these women to do such and would support their decision to do so!
 
Last edited:
G

Galahad

Guest
#8
It is right for a woman who was raped to both seek God's help and help from professionals ASAP. It is right for a woman who was rape to pray big-time to God to help her make her decision of what to do if she does become pregnant. It is right for her to consider all options, and, with God's word and grace to choose the one that is best for her. It is probably a good idea to have this settled in her mind before she finds out if she is or isn't, because if she finds out she isn't, she's going to spend quite some time thanking God for that. And, if she is she's going to doubt her first decision more than once.

And it is very, very right for the rest of us to NOT JUDGE HER ON THAT DECISION OR EVEN THINK WE HAVE THE OBLIGATION TO PLAYFULLY PLAY THIS GAME ON THE INTERNET, as if we have the right to do that at all.

So says the lady who had three weeks to go from being raped to finding out what happens next. Hard enough to go through all that without finding some damn thread online to make the matter harder to decide.
Christianity and the bible are relevant to every part of life. That includes the good as well the bad and the evil.

Additionally, such questions are posed by those who are antilife. Some Christians have not heard some of the thoughts and reasoning behind the NO answer. They want to be guided, helped.

If I understand correctly from what you wrote, I am sorry, so very sorry about your experience. I will pray for you.
 
G

Galahad

Guest
#9
It's VERY easy for a male to pass judgement that aborting an embryo (or early fetus) (as resultant from rape) as wrong, however, the trauma of being raped is also VERY real and there are (Christian) women who simply could not carry the pregency through to the full 40 weeks and so aborting it is an option that they can follow, I personally can see the necessity for these women to do such and would support their decision to do so!
Christian men would tread lightly with this matter.

Your response to the question sounds too easy, lax. Yet you say it's very easy for a male to pass judgment!

"I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me." Paul wrote that when he was in bonds.
"Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do." Jesus from the cross.
How easy it is for us to say "Paul would have been wrong to condemn his persecutors." I don't know all there is about his pain. Nor the Lord's. But that doesn't mean that I am unable to be sensitive to it.

Your select choice of words are disturbing. Shameful. So we utilize terms that soften the reality. Abortion is the taking of life.
Watch: "It's VERY easy for a male to pass judgement that aborting a baby is wrong."

Where you had embryo and fetus, I inserted baby. Changes the meaning. Tell me, how will you support abortion?
"Very real." No. It is real. Period. There is no half real or middle real.

The baby is life. Very life. Not half or middle life. The baby is life from minute of conception.
 

gypsygirl

Senior Member
Sep 19, 2012
1,394
60
48
#10
most women who have the courage to seek medical care and treatment following a sex assault are quickly offered some version of prophylaxis-category of drugs to address the risks for hiv and a host of diseases. statistically, it's quite unusual for a woman to conceive under the trauma of rape, though they are almost always offered alternatives to prevent (or interrupt) this.

most women are offered some form of "plan b" - type drugs, and quite often, encouraged to get an IUD, all of which are designed to prevent either conception or implantation, which you have rather limited time windows for which to react. during the couple years i volunteered in this crisis care volunteer role, i never once saw a woman turn down at least one of the options intended prevent/eliminate pregnancy.

as a woman who has gone through her own traumatic sexual assualt, i have never felt any bit of judgment or obligation to discourage someone to do something she felt was best for her--only to make sure she understood exactly what she was taking or signing up for. and to make the decision for herself, and not because of what i think, or what she worries what others might think. you can't imagine how harrowing it is to see a young woman go through the horror of something as horrific as an assault and then shift all of her fear and worry towards what others will say, do, or think. how she will be judged. for a few years i would get ridiculously angry at folks who would judge and criticize choices of those facing such difficult circumstances.

in my own case, i had a reasonable hope i wouldn't get pregnant, but had i gotten pregnant, i'm not sure i would've done with myself. i doubt i'd have had an abortion, but i've never been pregnant or under the influence of all those consequences and time-limited scenarios.

i'd love to say i'd have been this force of courage and strength and done something admirable in spite of my situation. but sadly, i don't think anyone can really say what they would do until they are in that situation. sometimes i think there is plenty of courage in the lives of those who survive such things and choose to be bruised instead of broken by it all.

years ago i broke from the support group i was attending and quit serving as a crisis volunteer. i needed a break from all of it, and i saw women come there, and many left after awhile. but there were women who just never left that place of crisis, and it was obvious that 10 years or whatever later, they were still caught up in the trauma still. it was like it had all happened last week. their ENTIRE identity revolved around being victimized and every experience and situation was viewed through that warped lens.

i saw that over and over, and have seen that kind of behavior in others, not just sex assault. it's really a heartbreaking thing before the issue of "whether abortion is wrong" even comes up.
 
P

psalm6819

Guest
#11
It is never the right choice to blame the innocent child for the actions of the father,

I know that is not the PC answer

but it is the truth.
 

p_rehbein

Senior Member
Sep 4, 2013
30,095
6,479
113
#12
My thoughts is such a decision should only concern the victim, her family (if it was not incest) her Spiritual Advisor (Pastor) and her Doctor.

As for judgment........yeah, that ain't our job.......

Loving support, prayer and acceptance of her and the decision reached is our job in my opinion.
 
F

flob

Guest
#13
The pro-choice-to-kill Liars bring that one up........as if they'd support abortion restriction if that were allowed.
They're beyond evil
 
Dec 12, 2013
46,515
20,395
113
#14
Rape has to be one of the most terrible crimes upon another person.

To my knowledge pregnancy is rare in such a case.

With prayer. With understanding. And by relying on the Lord for strength, the mother can be strong in her spirit and will to carry and give birth to the baby.

I believe it is wrong. The baby is a human. Has a soul and spirit. Rape, as bad as it is, is not a license to commit another crime.
I agree with this view.......and will state the child is innocent!
 

gypsygirl

Senior Member
Sep 19, 2012
1,394
60
48
#15
It is never the right choice to blame the innocent child for the actions of the father,

I know that is not the PC answer

but it is the truth.
fyi, most women who elect to choose to do something to prevent pregnancy or implementation aren't doing so to blame or punish anyone.

remember, these are women who have gone through the most horrific event of their life. in some cases, they survive things they didn't know they would. they are suffering, many in terrible forms of shock and trauma that i would almost see akin to "temporarily altered mental condition" because what such a thing does to someone.

not to pick on anyone, but i would love to share a small part of what i've seen, observed, witnessed, and heard. i would defy any one of the folks here who want to argue the letter of the "biblical law" to one of these women.

this would be a time when we as christians get our values and biblical standards confused with the measure of grace and compassion that are called for. and as someone who is quite concerned about her testimony as a christian, and our testimony as a body to the world who is googling and finds this thread, the last thing i want anyone to believe is that all christians care more about "rightness" than the bigger picture of acknowledging what we believe is right isn't always an easy, possible, or even feasible choice considering all the circumstances.

finally, let's remember one more thing. we all like to make flaming statements when they are lacking personal attachment. let's try to avoid coming off like the heartless and judgmental folks that we are constantly being accused of.: )
 
A

atwhatcost

Guest
#16
It is never the right choice to blame the innocent child for the actions of the father,

I know that is not the PC answer

but it is the truth.
I was the biggest wreck you can imagine the days and weeks afterward. The thought of aborting the child simply because it was my last year of college and I wasn't ready did cross my mind. I've picked out which clothes I'd wear slower than dismissing that thought.

But that's not the only thought. The next thought is, "I'm a frigging mess. I can't shower enough. I can't cry enough. I really don't feel like eating, so don't even ask me to. And, whatever you do, don't make me 'rest.' If I stop to think about it, I go right back to that night and imagine it over and over again. If I can sleep, which is rare, their faces and that ax invade my dreams. Don't make me rest." And then what prolong effect happen to that tiniest of infant growing in me, under this long-term duress? What is fairer for that tiny little baby -- my child -- than to end her now or let her suffer in this body for 4-6 months before my body kicks her out violently?

So, you're being CC (Christianese Correct) instead of PC? Big whoop. May it never be a decision you have to make, as you're busy thinking it's your right to make that decision for another girl/teen/woman.
 

MarcR

Senior Member
Feb 12, 2015
5,486
183
63
#17
While I truly agree that in principle that abortion is wrong. I am not certain that to impose upon a rape victim a 9 month reminder of what was done to her is not more wrong.

If the Lord convicts the woman that she should carry the baby to term; He will give her special grace and strength to get her through the ordeal. If He does not convict her; then it is certainly not our job to convict her.
 
S

skylove7

Guest
#18
My heart goes out to any woman raped. We all have different opinions on things in life. I am not here to judge or criticize....I am here to pray for the victims and the children.

I know women who have gone through this.
Again....
Im here to pray....and love those that need God.
 
Apr 8, 2015
895
18
0
#19
I was the biggest wreck you can imagine the days and weeks afterward. The thought of aborting the child simply because it was my last year of college and I wasn't ready did cross my mind. I've picked out which clothes I'd wear slower than dismissing that thought.

But that's not the only thought. The next thought is, "I'm a frigging mess. I can't shower enough. I can't cry enough. I really don't feel like eating, so don't even ask me to. And, whatever you do, don't make me 'rest.' If I stop to think about it, I go right back to that night and imagine it over and over again. If I can sleep, which is rare, their faces and that ax invade my dreams. Don't make me rest." And then what prolong effect happen to that tiniest of infant growing in me, under this long-term duress? What is fairer for that tiny little baby -- my child -- than to end her now or let her suffer in this body for 4-6 months before my body kicks her out violently?

So, you're being CC (Christianese Correct) instead of PC? Big whoop. May it never be a decision you have to make, as you're busy thinking it's your right to make that decision for another girl/teen/woman.
:( hugs ........................................................................
 

p_rehbein

Senior Member
Sep 4, 2013
30,095
6,479
113
#20
From the information I have read published by the JAMA (Journal of the American Medical Association), the number of abortions performed in the US attributed to "rape, incest, life of the mother" is LESS than 2% of the total abortions performed.

Given that, it is not too much of a stretch to say that the instance of "rape" would be less than 1% of all abortions performed.

One is too many, but maybe we should be more focused on the 98% of aborted babies whose justification was "oops Birth Control?" Just saying