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JaumeJ

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Everyone knows no one is justified by the law.

Does this translate we are to sin more so that grace may abound? Paul sahys NO: Remember sin is breaking the law.

If anyone believes ignoring the commandments is good, he is mistaken.

Yes, Jesus Christ has specified laws to abide by, but He also gave Moses the Law on the Mount.

Anhyone who knows sHim and has learned from Him knows how to follow the law lawfully, that is without the thought of being justified by the law, rather pleasing Jesus Christ for what He has doen for all who believe and love Him.

So many say this attitude is incorrect because they have not studied the teachings enough to understand that most of the laws cannot be followed, and there are many no one should attempt to follow because of Christ's teachings..

Do not say the law is dead, the law was my tutor, or disobedience of the lawrully applied laws and commandments is permitted when you have not studied the law in tandem with the great light Jesus Christ has shown on the Word, His Word.

If you do not understaqnd this, do not out of envy jump on the electoral bandwagon of the majority vote or opinion as do so many. Believe Jesus Christ, learn of Him for we are all invited to learn from God. When you learn of Jesus Christ you will know. When He is clarifying the Word from the Old Testament, be certain you know His reference. Love Him,for if you do yo will keep HIs Word and follow Him.
 

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We are dead to the law, the law isn't dead. Rom 7:1-4

Romans 7:1-4 (KJV)
1 Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?
2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.
3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

Instead, we are now partakers of His nature through the new birth...

2 Peter 1:4 (KJV) Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
 
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two insightful posts,

we have died to the Law by being Baptized into the death of Jesus Christ - death has no more power over us.
but, it never says that the Law has died to us, for without the Law we have no knowledge of sin.

if we say that we only have to 'keep the most important two', then we have no definition but our own,
and every man would be doing what is right in his own eyes, and this would be a recipe for
disobedience and disaster.

as it is written:
All scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable.....'
again, it is written: If you Love Me, keep My Commandments.'
 
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two insightful posts,

we have died to the Law by being Baptized into the death of Jesus Christ - death has no more power over us.
but, it never says that the Law has died to us, for without the Law we have no knowledge of sin.

if we say that we only have to 'keep the most important two', then we have no definition but our own,
and every man would be doing what is right in his own eyes, and this would be a recipe for
disobedience and disaster.

as it is written:
All scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable.....'
again, it is written: If you Love Me, keep My Commandments.'
AMEN!!!
If there is something else that hangs, or nothing at all that hangs on the law of love other than the law and the prophets themselves, then the conversation in scripture involving Jesus and one of the Pharisee in Matthew 22:35-40 is a misnomer, and those that say the law is dead in Christ (crucified with Christ instead of our flesh) is serving a "false christ."

"For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect." Matthew 24:24
 
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God's law is here to stay, my friends. Every word of it. We'll be practicing it until heavens and earth pass away. And on all the while, it will bring us peace and prosperity. So rejoice, and be glad that Yahweh has opened your hearts to the truth, and act on what He reveals to you, so that He will continue to tweek your understanding of His word, and continue to make you more knowledgable about how to serve Him.

His wrath is close at hand. Soon he'll be punishing the wicked for their multiplied sins. We're going to see a global financial crisis that will affect every human being in the world. But Yah knows those who are on His side, and not on counterfeit-christianity's side. You will be protected as long as you're listening very careful to what He tells you to do.

You've come out of Babylon, the false religion started by Constantine and empowered by Satan, to discieve the world and lure billions away from the plain truth of the Bible. I'm proud to be your brother.
 

JaumeJ

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Although your post is drifted slightly off topic, I am honored that you have posted on the subject of the upcoming international monetary crash, rendering all currencies worthless. As long as the new "greed is good" attitude continues in all of the current business activity world-wide, the only destination is disaster.

I see the wealthy (not all) accumulating wealth for wealth's sake while actively creating a distorted class system with the vast majority of people, the consumers, becoming poorer and poorer. This will leave the wealthy of that ilk staring at each other from their seats on their piles of money wondering why there is no consumer base in society able to consume. This is going to occur, sooner than most realize, and there will be a need to replace money,, for it will have no value for any class. God bless all who pray to be prepared. God bless and prepare all for His return, amen.

God's law is here to stay, my friends. Every word of it. We'll be practicing it until heavens and earth pass away. And on all the while, it will bring us peace and prosperity. So rejoice, and be glad that Yahweh has opened your hearts to the truth, and act on what He reveals to you, so that He will continue to tweek your understanding of His word, and continue to make you more knowledgable about how to serve Him.

His wrath is close at hand. Soon he'll be punishing the wicked for their multiplied sins. We're going to see a global financial crisis that will affect every human being in the world. But Yah knows those who are on His side, and not on counterfeit-christianity's side. You will be protected as long as you're listening very careful to what He tells you to do.

You've come out of Babylon, the false religion started by Constantine and empowered by Satan, to discieve the world and lure billions away from the plain truth of the Bible. I'm proud to be your brother.
 
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I see you've been informed of the situation too. Good. I've been preparing like you wouldn't believe. I'd imagine that nearly everyone with Holy Spirit dwelling in them is being led to safety in one way or another.

I won't derail your thread any further. Just want to let you know though, the cause of the dollar collapse is likely going to be the fall of the petrodollar. Saudi Arabia is very angry with America right now, because the Kenyan Village Idiot just lifted the sanctions on their sworn enemy, Iran. If they stop pricing their oil in US dollars and begin to use another currency, it's all over. And China is pushing them to start ricing it in the Yaun.

If you want to hear about some of the visions my friends have had, you can PM me. Good luck in your preparations.
 

JaumeJ

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I always respect how others prepare for the day and for the future. My thinking on preparation for the Lord's will to unfold has always been to prepare from the inside.

When God's last day events do begin, He will be watching over us all, realizing those who are of understanding will be helped with little help,; they will understand this too. We shall all hide in the Lord, I believe.
 
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prove gods law was given to a gentile.

but, it never says that the Law has died to us, for without the Law we have no knowledge of sin.oldthennew
why would you want to know what sin is, so he can say i followed and still failed. or do you think there is a extra prize for full follower of the law.

10 For all who rely on works of the law are under a curse; for it is written, "Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them Galatians 3: FaithBy, or by Works of the Law?
 
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AMEN!!!
If there is something else that hangs, or nothing at all that hangs on the law of love other than the law and the prophets themselves, then the conversation in scripture involving Jesus and one of the Pharisee in Matthew 22:35-40 is a misnomer, and those that say the law is dead in Christ (crucified with Christ instead of our flesh) is serving a "false christ."

"For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect." Matthew 24:24
the same false prophets that say they did it through law. have fun with your rubbish no temple of stone.
 

pickles

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Paul said that the law brought Him to see what is good.
But that Jesus perfected this.

I know only that once we receive Jesus, that although being justified is good...
Being sanctified is to be perfected.
All is by faith in Jesus! :)

God bless
pickles
 
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I see you've been informed of the situation too. Good. I've been preparing like you wouldn't believe. I'd imagine that nearly everyone with Holy Spirit dwelling in them is being led to safety in one way or another.

I won't derail your thread any further. Just want to let you know though, the cause of the dollar collapse is likely going to be the fall of the petrodollar. Saudi Arabia is very angry with America right now, because the Kenyan Village Idiot just lifted the sanctions on their sworn enemy, Iran. If they stop pricing their oil in US dollars and begin to use another currency, it's all over. And China is pushing them to start ricing it in the Yaun.

If you want to hear about some of the visions my friends have had, you can PM me. Good luck in your preparations.
As someone who has already gone through our own private financial crisis, got to say -- lean less on your imagination and more on God. You're visions are wrong. God doesn't protect his people from stupid governments, bad turns on the economy, terrorists, or hardships. He's more likely to put his people right smack in the thick of it.

So, less imagination and more reality -- God's word.
 

Grandpa

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Hebrews 4:9-11
[SUP]9 [/SUP]There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

How does a person enter into this rest?

Matthew 11:28 [SUP] [/SUP]Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

The Old Law requires your work. Christianity is Provision for what you cannot attain by your work.

I suppose anyone who has been to Christ and been given rest doesn't really worry about what they have died to. They are only concerned about what they are alive to, which is Christ.

Is there any provision or any blessing that Christ does not give us that we must work for ourselves to attain?
 

JaumeJ

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Faith not only produces works, it produces the desire to please Jesus Christ. This does not mean anyone is bound by or under the law. It just means being children of obedience according to the teachings of the Word, Jesus Christ.
 
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Faith not only produces works, it produces the desire to please Jesus Christ. This does not mean anyone is bound by or under the law. It just means being children of obedience according to the teachings of the Word, Jesus Christ.
AMEN!!

"For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother. And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day." Matthew 12:50, and John 6:39

This should produce incentive from the heart. If we make excuses, using Jesus as a scapegoat excuse, it won't.
 
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dose god produce the faith ie with the holy spirit moving in you. who is teaching you. some like to give the full glory to god.

3 Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh?4 Did you suffer so many things in vain---if indeed it was in vain?5 Does he who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you do so by works of the law, or by hearing with faith---6 just as Abraham "believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness"?Galatians 3



21 Is the law then contrary to the promises of God? Certainly not! For if a law had been given that could give life, then righteousness would indeed be by the law Galatians 3

.4 You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace.Galatians 5
 

JaumeJ

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We give glory to God that we are no longer children of disobedience. If anyone believes disobeying God's wisdom is good, his belief is flawed, and perhaps false.

Yes, what we actually know is always of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit tells us to say daily, Thy will be done. Now what is God's will on earth as it is in heaven? Learn of God for His burden is light, and their is no baggage with it.