Do you think there are conditions for healing?

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Graybeard

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Are there conditions or requirement that we have to have/do to get healed after prayer. Some can have all the faith but no healing....why would that be?
 

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One condition I can think of is that the healing has to be in accordance with God's will for one's life (cf 1 John 5:14)
 
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Graybeard

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One condition I can think of is that the healing has to be in accordance with God's will for one's life (cf 1 John 5:14)
Don't think that pertains to healing NotmebutHim.......there is no question about God's will for healing, it is His will.
 

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Must discern the body of Christ rightly. Must keep yourself out from under the traditions of men, in other words, know your bible. Look at Israel under the foot of their religious leaders. They were miserable. That's why He came preaching to them to set them at liberty.
Man invented doctrines can place you under a curse. Read Galatians. Man invented traditions make the word null and void in your life. Now He'll bless to a degree but He wants His children to put away childish things as such, therefore study His word and pray for understanding, then discard all that is not of Him that you heard from the pulpit or from any TV preacher.
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Graybeard

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Must discern the body of Christ rightly. Must keep yourself out from under the traditions of men, in other words, know your bible. Look at Israel under the foot of their religious leaders. They were miserable. That's why He came preaching to them to set them at liberty.
Man invented doctrines can place you under a curse. Read Galatians. Man invented traditions make the word null and void in your life. Now He'll bless to a degree but He wants His children to put away childish things as such, therefore study His word and pray for understanding, then discard all that is not of Him that you heard from the pulpit or from any TV preacher.
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I agree......but again this does not pertain to healing, when Jesus and His Disciples prayed for the sick they prayed for the people regardless of their traditions ect......the only requirement I can see when Jesus healed was faith.
 
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One condition I can think of is that the healing has to be in accordance with God's will for one's life (cf 1 John 5:14)
Matthew 6:9-13 (ESV)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] Pray then like this: “Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name.
[SUP]10 [/SUP] Your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.
[SUP]11 [/SUP] Give us this day our daily bread,
[SUP]12 [/SUP] and forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors.
[SUP]13 [/SUP] And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.
 

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The thing is one can have the faith to move a mountain but if God never intended for that mountain to move it's not going anywhere. People say it is God's will for us to be healed but this is not always the case, sometimes God allows certain thorns in our side for our good or for his glory. Do you know how many time I have prayed for healing? faith is not an issue for me because I don't rely on the strength of my faith for healing but rather the strength of him who is in me, and only if it is his will or else there is no point. Every time the answer either wait or no but I trust him all the more I know that he alone sees the bigger picture that he alone knows what is best for me and that he knows exactly what he is doing.

I go through such suffering all the time and boy I could really use some healing and I could use rest not just physically but inside of me as well but so great is faith in him and so deeply do I trust him that even though I cannot seem receive healing I see it as a challenge a test of how deeply I trust him how far am I willing to go how much will I give before I break. Something I have learned is that pain and suffering are not the most wanted teachers but they are one of the best teachers, I have grown and I have learned to trust God mostly through pain and suffering.
 
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Mitspa

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Are there conditions or requirement that we have to have/do to get healed after prayer. Some can have all the faith but no healing....why would that be?
Sure...its called faith :)
 
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Graybeard

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Sure...its called faith :)
Yes I used to think it was that simple......but explain why some don't get healing although they have all the faith necessarily?
 
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Mitspa

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Yes I used to think it was that simple......but explain why some don't get healing although they have all the faith necessarily?
How do you know if someone has "all the faith necessary" That seems to be something that God alone would know...Now we can see faith working in some and guess they have faith...but like many other things in our faith, folks have been taught a lot of things contrary to the evident truths of God. And like in the Lords hometown (they thought they knew him) as this or that but they did not really know Him to be healed.
 
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Are there conditions or requirement that we have to have/do to get healed after prayer. Some can have all the faith but no healing....why would that be?
God's will. The person praying for the healing doesn't have to believe it will happen. The person being healed doesn't have to believe it will happen. If God wills healing, then healing happens.

We place too much emphasis on what we want, and not enough on what he wants.

"Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven."
 
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Mitspa

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Gods Word is His Will...we don't have to guess if God wants His people to be healed...we just have to believe the clear and evident truth of His Word. Example

Jas 5:14 Is anyone among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord.
15 And the prayer of faith will save the sick, and the Lord will raise him up. And if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven.
 
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Are there conditions or requirement that we have to have/do to get healed after prayer. Some can have all the faith but no healing....why would that be?
Since I have seen complete non-believers.... Muslims, even... be healed through a Christian praying for them, I would say, "No."
 
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Are there conditions or requirement that we have to have/do to get healed after prayer. Some can have all the faith but no healing....why would that be?
.......Unbelief
 
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Gods Word is His Will...we don't have to guess if God wants His people to be healed...we just have to believe the clear and evident truth of His Word. Example

Jas 5:14 Is anyone among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord.
15 And the prayer of faith will save the sick, and the Lord will raise him up. And if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven.

AMEN-

Note* -let us remember that the SPIRITUAL GIFT of healing is given to some.

Is it plausible that one needs an elder who has the Spiritual Gift of healing to pray obediently according to James 5:14 for it to work??

Or are there two avenues available for healing, one by elders, one by anyone who has the gift of healing?

In my opinion Elders are defined as men- and ANYONE can have the spiritual gifts (Priscilla was a prophet).
 
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Mitspa

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AMEN-

Note* -let us remember that the SPIRITUAL GIFT of healing is given to some.

Is it plausible that one needs an elder who has the Spiritual Gift of healing to pray obediently according to James 5:14 for it to work??
Its possible that some that are called elders are not really in the position of faith that that title represented when this scripture was written? Im sure the gift of healing would be very desirable in a "elder" ..
 
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First of all..it IS God's will to heal, just like it is that GOD 'would have NONE perish". When we pray "Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven..."....take a serious look at what you are saying. You are asking GOD that what is going on in heaven in accordance to HIS will to be applied to this earth that you are wandering around on for the moment until you get to heaven. Take a look at heaven. Are people walking around with headaches, diseases, crutches and needing medical attention? The answer is obvious. I believe it is always HIS will to heal, save, sanctify and much more. However, us earthlings have issues with His timing. IT took some people in the BIBLE to be healed after 12 years of spending all their monies on doctors and cures, Some people were crippled for 40 yrs or more. We do not know the time involved for those 10 lepers to reach the point where they were cured instantly. Some 'healings" do occur immediately, some take a little time, such as when the blind man told JESUS 'I see people walking as trees" and then JESUS touched the man again. Some healings take a leap of faith, such as when Naaman had to dunk himself into the Jordan River 7 times before his leprosy was taken away. I recal that Smith Wigglesworth, who was one of the greatest 20th century 'healers" had a deaf daughter who lived her entire life as a mute. But, she's healed NOW. I also like how JESUS did not preselect those in whom He healed..."all were healed"..meaning, not just a certain culture, race, creed, Christ follower or not. When a person totally surrenders themselves to Christ, we are healed of our past sins, our present sins, and our future sins by the power of the blood of JESUS. We are to seek and to save that which is lost, baptising them, healing them, casting out demons...etc. All were part of the 1st century newly formed 'church". Signs and wonders always followed, such as Philip, who was NOT part of the original Apostle lineup. I personally, have actually touched a part of my body that was hurting and diligently prayed and on two or more occasions, was instantly touched by the Holy Spirit and healed. This included gout, a spinal condition, and severe sinus infection. My grandfather would lay his hands on me and others and they would be healed either instantly or by the next day, and he was just a Southern Cotton Mill worker. I do know that JESUS said "Thy faith hath made thee whole...." I also know of an evangelist who was born with NO legs or arms and this very day, is a proud father, a word renown minister who can and will be totally healed...either now or later. To me, it's all in GOD's timing....for HIS will is always in our favor! I mean, look at what GOD had to sacrifice for us. Doesn't that tell us that our healings, mentally, emotionally and physically were so important to HIM that earth got to meet HIs very Son, in the flesh. We today can have the same pleasure in the Holy Spirit, our Comforter. Keep in mind also....the faith of a few good friends has healing powers. GOd also inhabits our praises. If we live each day with praise, no matter the pain....HE is sure to bend an ear and use us mightily. John, the Apostle, survived not one, but TWO dunkings in hot oil that would have normally killed him instantly. I do believe that modern healings and miracles still occur because GOD is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. I would also encourage you to read anything about John G. Lake, who had several healing centers scattered across the U.S.A for decades until his death in 1935.
 

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God's will. The person praying for the healing doesn't have to believe it will happen. The person being healed doesn't have to believe it will happen. If God wills healing, then healing happens.

We place too much emphasis on what we want, and not enough on what he wants.

"Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven."
Yup, we like to say "God is Sovereign" even though that runs counter to the natural mind. :)
 
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atwhatcost

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AMEN-

Note* -let us remember that the SPIRITUAL GIFT of healing is given to some.

Is it plausible that one needs an elder who has the Spiritual Gift of healing to pray obediently according to James 5:14 for it to work??

Or are there two avenues available for healing, one by elders, one by anyone who has the gift of healing?

In my opinion Elders are defined as men- and ANYONE can have the spiritual gifts (Priscilla was a prophet).
You have many opinions about many thing, and yet, none of them based in anything. In this case, even a basic understanding what "elder" means in the Bible or even a dictionary.
 

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Are there conditions or requirement that we have to have/do to get healed after prayer. Some can have all the faith but no healing....why would that be?
You can find a bit of a study on healing Here that you should find interesting...

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