The Anti Christ

[Todd_TruthSeeker]

Oh, your point about Rev. 2:13 is not relevant to the false prophet and the 7-headed beast.

I will not debate the meaning of "where Satan's throne is", but the devil (dragon) gives his authority to the 7-headed beast, which is NOT related to Pergamum.

You may be the CEO of a corporation, and give authority to one of your managers, who then has the power to do things on the factory floor, or at another office location, etc.

 

[491v3n]

Guys if someone were say the man of sin but didn't want to be the antichrist do you think he could have all his limbs cut off and prevent satan from using his body

 

[garee]

The antichrist spirit works in many and has been around ever since they first denied Jesus Christ as the Messiah. Just as the man of sin also speaks of many who would have that Wicked spirit working in them as I've shown you before by scripture, but you seem to ignore. All the pieces to solve the puzzle of mysteries are found in scripture, even the many symbolisms found in the book of Revelation. But only the Lord has the keys to open the doors and reveal all those many mysteries by His Spirit to whom He so chooses, no man can do this.


And sure Islam has antichrist spirit working in them, but so does all those who reject Jesus Christ as Lord. Christians have been suffering persecution for a long time now, they have even been beheaded before in history past. But going by world news and current events is not a sound way to prove the symbolisms in scripture. Every president and Pope since I've been on this earth has been labeled the "Antichrist". LOL

Just as Russia, China, Britain, and the United nations have all been labeled the "Beast." So it's no surprise with Islam now being in the news lately, they are now the new "Beast". This is what the apostles warned about, being tossed about by every new wave of doctrine.

Ephesians 4:14
That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;

Prove all things by scripture.

Amen. It’s like saying new age in respect to that that continues. That new or the old is that which keeps showing its ugly head down through history.

Ismael being the father of Islam

It’s the same spiritual battle which is not in respect to flesh and blood but principalities in high places. It has been going on for centuries. It is that which is not in respect to literal places as the political nations of the world thousands of years . . The beast simply represents natural unconverted men called the generation of Adam, Christ called it the evil generation.

The antichrist(singular) is Satan the god of this world who has no form .When he does use form ( man) as the father of lies those who he does influence by his lies they are called antichrists.( plural). His methodology is clearly to influence men to teach other men they need a man to teach them. This makes the promise of Christ that he would teach us all things while he guides and comforts us to no effect. Even a believer in respect to an oral tradition of men can be deceived and used as a antichrist to try and make the gospel without effect. ..

A perfect example of one of antichrists is shown with Peter according the oral tradition of the fathers. There we are warned the things of men inspired by the god of this world do offend the things of God inspired from heaven.

From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men. Mat 16:21

Its not the most popular opinion as a private interpretation that I am offering. I think that is because many Christians are under the impression that God is served by human hands and that would disqualify Peter as one of the many antichrists .

This is especially true to a Catholic who must put Peter in the place of Christ, the anointing Holy Spirit of God. Just as did the apostate Jews who put Abraham in the place of Christ, the anointing Holy Spirit of God

 

[p_rehbein]

YEA!

A thread about the anti-Christ!!!!!!

 

[eph610]

Drats, I thought they were talking about the beast of Revelation....

 

[Preacha24-7]

First of all Obama is not the Antichrist. Only ignorant racist people think that way. I don't like the way Obama favors Muslims over Christians and Jews. I'm glad we have a black president. I don't support gay marriage and I don't believe in gays raising kids. I tell you the devil is very busy ! The Illuminati is behind the Gay Agenda. They trying to convince the world that being gay is normal. I don't care what Laws they pass. The Laws of God are higher than man's law. In 2011 the state of California started teaching 5 and 6 year old kids that being gay is normal. America was once a Godly nation but not anymore. Its time for Christians to stop being afraid and speak the truth. What are you afraid of? The little persecution that we face in America as Christians, is nothing compared to what they face in Muslim North Africa and MiddleEastern countries. The Islamic religion is the axis of pure evil. I'm not afraid of Isis. They better leave Israel alone, because God will punish all people and nations that kill and pursecute Jews & Christians. 2 Timothy 3:12 Yes and all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution. If you're born again and filled with the spirit of God(Holy Ghost) and not afraid to speak the name of Jesus and preach the truth you will face persecution. People been hating on me all my life. I'm used to it. If you wanna survive in this world as a Christian you better learn how to persevere. This walk with God ain't for the weak. You better strap up and get Gangsta on the Devil. Let him know you ain't got time for his games anymore. Remember the power and Authority that God has given you in the name of Jesus over the Devil and his Demons. To God be the glory. Preacha24-7

 

[tanakh]

According to John Hagee he is supposed to reveal himself today, (30.8.16). As it is now 9pm British Time he will have to Hurry up a bit. I should mention that the rapture was supposed to have happened yesterday but at least one Pre Tribber is still on site.No news of massive car crashes or planes without Pilots so I assume it was a false alarm yet again and Mr Hagee has got people all worked up for nothing.

 

[491v3n]

So you guys think the man of sin can take himself out instead of letting the antichrist become?

 

[eph610]

So you guys think the man of sin can take himself out instead of letting the antichrist become?

The term anitchrist is found no where in Revelation, only the term Beast is. There are several with antichrist in the world already and just as John stated there would be.

 

[491v3n]

So the beast isn't the antichrist? Ain't he the "little horn" aka antichrist? I'm cornfused

 

[Ahwatukee]

So the beast isn't the antichrist? Ain't he the "little horn" aka antichrist? I'm cornfused

Hello 49Iv3n,

If I may, the ruler, the little horn, antichrist and man of lawlessness, is all speaking of the same person, which is that coming last day ruler who will proclaim himself to be God. The beast is that angel of the Abyss who is called "Destroyer," who will come up out of the Abyss at the sounding of the 5th trumpet and will be the spirit controlling the antichrist (Rev.9:11). The beast is also the same one, who after he comes up out of the Abyss kills the two witnesses (Rev.11:7-12). Paul referred to the antichrist as the man of lawlessness and John as the antichrist and the beast who comes up out of the Abyss will control him. Some say that it is Satan who possesses the antichrist, but when Jesus returns to end the age, the beast and the false prophet are thrown into the lake of fire, where Satan is thrown into the Abyss for a thousand years, which would demonstrate that they are two individual beings (Rev.19:20, Rev.20:1-3, 10)

Hope this helps

 

[Ahwatukee]

I hear alot of people saying Obama's the antichrist. How much truth to that do you think there is. I know he's a terrible person for promoting and backing the tpp but how likely is it that he'll force us all to have the mark of the beast? And if we do get the mark of the beast how do we get rid of it?

Hello Monnkai,

Just like all those before him, Obama does not fit the criteria of the antichrist. He will be revealed when he makes that seven year covenant with Israel. And according to Dan.9:27, in the middle of that seven years, he will cause Israel's sacrifice and offerings to cease and will set up that abomination that causes the desolation.

Regarding the mark of the beast, it will not be something that will be physically forced on them. The emergence of that mark will be the proverbial line being drawn in the sand. The system for the mark is and has been in place and people use it every day without realizing it, which is the electronic crediting and debiting system. Currently, people are crediting and debiting their bank accounts by the swiping of cards or via bank apps on cell phones. These will be replaced with that mark which will eventually be the only means of electronically crediting and debiting ones account. When the scripture says "he forces all both great and small, rich and poor, free and slave to receive a mark" the way in which he forces them is by making cash, checks, cards, bank apps and any other method of buying and selling, obsolete, so that only those who receive the mark will be able to electronically credit and debit their accounts. Consequently, anyone who refuses to receive it, will not be able to perform any kind of electronic transaction to their bank account and will be an enemy of the antichrist and his kingdom. The following was a BBC newscast from January 2015:

Swedish office staff offered implants to access facilities - BBC News

 

[Jackson123]

Also here is what John was shown;

Compare this with what is written on the ISIS Islamic terrorists;

Then the scripture in Revelation 13:16 of receiving the mark on their forehead or right hand, which the actual Greek definition means the whole right side from the hand to the shoulder. Now look at this picture;

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[FONT=&quot]18 Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]19 They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us.

[/FONT]I don't believe the antichrist is Muslim, John said, they went out from us, it's mean from Christian but not belong to us.

I believe it's mean they look like christian but it is not

Pope, may the fit candidate base on these verse, Muslim not went out from us
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[491v3n]

Thank you what happens to the man the beast was inhibiting?

 

[mpaper345]

I hear alot of people saying Obama's the antichrist. How much truth to that do you think there is. I know he's a terrible person for promoting and backing the tpp but how likely is it that he'll force us all to have the mark of the beast? And if we do get the mark of the beast how do we get rid of it?

Obama is not the antichrist,nor is anyone that competes in the world,for any position,the antichrist,for it would be an insult to the antichrist to do such,and a hindrance to his agenda,for he wants to appear as being above all people in power,and importance,that competing with them for a position is beneath his feet.

The antichrist will have a position that no other person has ever had in the history of mankind,and that is what he is preparing himself for,a position above all positions,and nobody can compete with him for that position,for there is no competition for that position,and when he starts working in the world he will be like no other,and be alone in the things that he shall cause to happen,as far as a position,and the Bible says he will understand dark sentences,which he will speak unlike any other person that they heard speak.

When he starts working in the world,he will solve peace in the middle east,where no other person could do it,which is a hindrance to the nations coming together as one,for the new age movement does not believe he can start working in the world,and restore the hidden mysteries of the past,and benefit humanity,until all the nations agree to come together as one to solve their problems,and the devil wants all the nations to come together,for he cannot work to deceive them until they come together as one,and will push the new age movement.

The fact that Obama is the president of the United States is proof he is not the antichrist,for when the antichrist starts working in the world,he will go right for the throat,and go right for solving peace in the middle east,so this one world government,and unified religious system can begin,for he wants them to unify,and in the future he will exalt himself above all their gods,and exalt himself above all people.

If you look on earth,and everybody you see,the antichrist is not public yet to the world,for if he was,you would know it,for he will not come from any background where people compete for positions,but he will be a solo act,and his solo act will increase as time goes on,until he exalts himself above every person that ever existed,and above all their religions,and their gods.

The antichrist scoffs at Obama,he mocks him,and the Pope is a joke to him,for the greatest of leaders,and spiritual leaders,and military leaders,pale in comparison to him,although they are puppets he uses to further his agenda,and the antichrist delights in dangling them on a string to dance for him.

 

[NarrowRoadDisciple]

According to John Hagee he is supposed to reveal himself today, (30.8.16). As it is now 9pm British Time he will have to Hurry up a bit. I should mention that the rapture was supposed to have happened yesterday but at least one Pre Tribber is still on site.No news of massive car crashes or planes without Pilots so I assume it was a false alarm yet again and Mr Hagee has got people all worked up for nothing.

First of all, John Hagee has some theological issues which ruin his credibility.

Secondly, since we don't know when the exact day or hour the harpadzo will be, we can't know the exact day the AntiChrist will be revealed after the Holy Spirit stops restraining him.

Thirdly, since no one will know exactly when the "catching away/harpadzo" will be, only the Father in heaven, all people proclaiming a day for the "rapture/harpadzo/catching away" need to re-read their bibles. As someone who holds that a pre-tribulational catching away of God's remnant church is very supported with scripture, what was your point in calling out "Pre-Tribbers?" We believe biblically that no one will know the day or hour except the Father.

 

[pottersclay]

If you want to know who the anti-Christ is don't ask a Christian ...we ain't going to be here.

 

[wvbeliever]

Revelation 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Oh how these three shall reap what they sewed and deserve every bit of it!!!!!!! I know one thing I wont ever miss none of them when Jesus comes to get me and the rest of the family and we can spend forever loving one another.

 

[Jackson123]

I believe antichrist is a second beast in rev 13 it's said, it has 2 horn like a lamb.

Lamb is a Christ. so antichrist must look like Christ, but it is not or false Christ. In other word, a lot of people will think that he is christ

to me it is not Muslim, Muslim doesn't look like Christ at all

 

[Ahwatukee]

I believe antichrist is a second beast in rev 13 it's said, it has 2 horn like a lamb.

Lamb is a Christ. so antichrist must look like Christ, but it is not or false Christ. In other word, a lot of people will think that he is christ

to me it is not Muslim, Muslim doesn't look like Christ at all

Hello Jackson123,

Just FYI, the first beast is the antichrist and the second is identified as being the false prophet. The fact that the second beast/false prophet will be performing miracles, signs and wonders on the first beasts behalf demonstrates that the first beast is the antichrist. In further support of this, it is the second beast/false prophet who orders the inhabitants of the earth to make that image of the first beast, again demonstrating that the first beast is the antichrist. The reference to the second beast having horns like a lamb is not representing Christ, for Rev.19:20 has both the beast and the false prophet thrown alive into the lake of fire. To put it simply, the first and second beast are both the bad guys.