I hear alot of people saying Obama's the antichrist. How much truth to that do you think there is. I know he's a terrible person for promoting and backing the tpp but how likely is it that he'll force us all to have the mark of the beast? And if we do get the mark of the beast how do we get rid of it?
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K
He may have the spirit of antichrist working through him but he is not the final end times figure the bible alludes to.
The reason is because people over look scriptures to make either the American president or the Catholic Pope to fit that figure.
The problem is the OT prophecies gives the end times figure the title of king of the north, and Revelation 2:13 and 13:2 tell us exactly where to look.
As Apostle John is told to write in the letter to Pergamos to tell them this is where satan's seat/throne is at, and then in 13:2 says the man of sin (1st beast) is given this seat.
Pergamos is in Turkey !!!
Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour. 1 John 2:18
Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist--denying the Father and the Son. 1 John 2:22
Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist--denying the Father and the Son. 1 John 2:22
K
Also here is what John was shown;
Compare this with what is written on the ISIS Islamic terrorists;
Then the scripture in Revelation 13:16 of receiving the mark on their forehead or right hand, which the actual Greek definition means the whole right side from the hand to the shoulder. Now look at this picture;
Compare this with what is written on the ISIS Islamic terrorists;
Then the scripture in Revelation 13:16 of receiving the mark on their forehead or right hand, which the actual Greek definition means the whole right side from the hand to the shoulder. Now look at this picture;
Also here is what John was shown;
Compare this with what is written on the ISIS Islamic terrorists;
Then the scripture in Revelation 13:16 of receiving the mark on their forehead or right hand, which the actual Greek definition means the whole right side from the hand to the shoulder. Now look at this picture;
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Compare this with what is written on the ISIS Islamic terrorists;
Then the scripture in Revelation 13:16 of receiving the mark on their forehead or right hand, which the actual Greek definition means the whole right side from the hand to the shoulder. Now look at this picture;
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K
The early Christians didn't have the gospel according to Youtube, and world news and current events Ken. LOL
Here is another description given for this system the man of sin will lead, as the bible says they will go around beheading Christians and Jews. Who do you see going around doing this???
The antichrist spirit works in many and has been around ever since they first denied Jesus Christ as the Messiah. Just as the man of sin also speaks of many who would have that Wicked spirit working in them as I've shown you before by scripture, but you seem to ignore. All the pieces to solve the puzzle of mysteries are found in scripture, even the many symbolisms found in the book of Revelation. But only the Lord has the keys to open the doors and reveal all those many mysteries by His Spirit to whom He so chooses, no man can do this.
And sure Islam has antichrist spirit working in them, but so does all those who reject Jesus Christ as Lord. Christians have been suffering persecution for a long time now, they have even been beheaded before in history past. But going by world news and current events is not a sound way to prove the symbolisms in scripture. Every president and Pope since I've been on this earth has been labeled the "Antichrist". LOL
Just as Russia, China, Britain, and the United nations have all been labeled the "Beast." So it's no surprise with Islam now being in the news lately, they are now the new "Beast". This is what the apostles warned about, being tossed about by every new wave of doctrine.
Ephesians 4:14
That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
Prove all things by scripture.
And sure Islam has antichrist spirit working in them, but so does all those who reject Jesus Christ as Lord. Christians have been suffering persecution for a long time now, they have even been beheaded before in history past. But going by world news and current events is not a sound way to prove the symbolisms in scripture. Every president and Pope since I've been on this earth has been labeled the "Antichrist". LOL
Just as Russia, China, Britain, and the United nations have all been labeled the "Beast." So it's no surprise with Islam now being in the news lately, they are now the new "Beast". This is what the apostles warned about, being tossed about by every new wave of doctrine.
Ephesians 4:14
That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
Prove all things by scripture.
K
Well the thing is that the bible on the end times system lead by the man of sin and on Mystery Babylon gives many descriptions for us to know who this will be. The Holy Spirit has unlocked this and guided me in this knowledge, so you keeping saying that I am denying scripture that I am not is completely not true.
I disagree with your interpretation of it because the Holy Spirit has guided me in prophecy study for the past 3 years, as the first 3 He lead me in teachings of Paul to give the same warnings to believers that he gave. He the Holy Spirit has opened my eyes to a lot of understanding and showed me how the OT prophecy nations that will follow this end times system is mainly Muslim nations. Then He showed me how Saudi Arabia fits all the descriptions for Mystery Babylon.
We can not take away those descriptions from the bible that speak and point us directly at where to look for these final end times players.
I do not disagree with you on the spirit of antichrist working in many different individuals in the world and how it has been working for a long time now. You seem to think I do but I do not, the issue you have is that the bible shows one final figure and where he will be seated.
So say for instance we are in the end times and Recep Tayyip Erdoğan of Turkey ends up being the final figure that leads the 10 nation coalition of kings; Iraq, Iran, Syria, Egypt, Greece, Ethiopia, Sudan, Jordan, Lebanon, and Libya against Mystery Babylon (Saudi Arabia) and destroys her. Then the Lord returns he will be that final figure the bible alludes to that has to reveal himself before any gathering of us to the Lord takes place.
Like I said before Revelation 2:13, 13:2 which is a prophetic book for the future shows Turkey is where to look for satan's seat that will be given to the man of sin in the last days.
Also here is what John was shown;
Compare this with what is written on the ISIS Islamic terrorists;
Then the scripture in Revelation 13:16 of receiving the mark on their forehead or right hand, which the actual Greek definition means the whole right side from the hand to the shoulder. Now look at this picture;
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Compare this with what is written on the ISIS Islamic terrorists;
Then the scripture in Revelation 13:16 of receiving the mark on their forehead or right hand, which the actual Greek definition means the whole right side from the hand to the shoulder. Now look at this picture;
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I will not teach what the Lord has revealed to me. But I will point out some obvious errors in what is being put forth.
For starters, the New Testament, including the book of Revelation, was not written in Greek, as it commonly taught in 98% of the seminaries around the world. Except for Luke, they were Jews who being raised with Jewish culture, abstained from anything Gentile. Perhaps they could speak a little Greek, or Latin, but they would never have learned to write it. They thought that anything gentile was to be stayed away from.
The New Testament was written in Aramaic, and the modern "Eastern Church" in Israel has always maintained this.
To read the New Testament Aramaic, converted to English, you need to look for "Peshitta" version, and I have a couple, and my favorite is the one translated by Lamsa.
There are lots of little gems to discover that give way to mistaken notions in "christianity" due to their reliance on the Greek, but for the most part, the Greek translation from Aramaic, has been very good.
I'll give one small example, and when you read this, you'll see how obvious it becomes, the truth that the New Testament was originally in Aramaic.
EXAMPLE:
Matt 19:24 "Again I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
The Greek translators thought the Aramaic word they were translating into Greek was "camel".
Now, look at the actual Aramaic word from the original book of Matthew:
As you can see, the actual word Jesus spoke was "rope", but it resembles the word "camel". There is a very slight deviation between the words. The Greek translators made a mistake.
Obviously, Jesus said "It's easier for a rope to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
Now,
the title of the end days "anti-christ" is always referred to by Jesus and the apostles, as "the false prophet". That is his title. Not anti-christ. Fine, though, we know who we are talking about, but his actual title is "the false prophet".
Next, Kenneth, while I like some stuff you write, this topic you are off base on. Your idea about the "666" image being the sign of Islam, sounds like Chuck Missler's teaching, and if that is where you got this, well, Chuck is way off on this point.
Also, the false prophet is not the first beast, but the second beast of Revelation 13.
The first beast has 7 heads and 10 horns, which is an allegory for an entity. I could teach you about this, but I'm not going to.
The second beast come to power through the entity of the first beast and this is the false prophet.
Rev 13:12 He exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence. And he makes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose fatal wound was healed.
Rev 13:13 He performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down out of heaven to the earth in the presence of men.
v. 13 is talking about the false prophet.
Furthermore, if I got with any of you one on one, I would show you the truth regarding all these things, which are easy to point to in these days, but it's not what is being espoused by most.
Also, Mystery Babylon is not Saudi Arabia. If you look at the details of Rev. 17 and 18, it should become clear, but it's clear to me because Jesus has shown me. All those whom I teach are greatly impressed and have adopted what I have shown them, because there is no denying the truth, as I present it to them. I use facts, and nothing less, that can be shown while sitting anywhere.
Mystery Babylon is also not a religion as has been taught almost universally. It is a place.
That's enough.
the title of the end days "anti-christ" is always referred to by Jesus and the apostles, as "the false prophet". That is his title. Not anti-christ. Fine, though, we know who we are talking about, but his actual title is "the false prophet".
Next, Kenneth, while I like some stuff you write, this topic you are off base on. Your idea about the "666" image being the sign of Islam, sounds like Chuck Missler's teaching, and if that is where you got this, well, Chuck is way off on this point.
Also, the false prophet is not the first beast, but the second beast of Revelation 13.
The first beast has 7 heads and 10 horns, which is an allegory for an entity. I could teach you about this, but I'm not going to.
The second beast come to power through the entity of the first beast and this is the false prophet.
Rev 13:12 He exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence. And he makes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose fatal wound was healed.
Rev 13:13 He performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down out of heaven to the earth in the presence of men.
v. 13 is talking about the false prophet.
Furthermore, if I got with any of you one on one, I would show you the truth regarding all these things, which are easy to point to in these days, but it's not what is being espoused by most.
Also, Mystery Babylon is not Saudi Arabia. If you look at the details of Rev. 17 and 18, it should become clear, but it's clear to me because Jesus has shown me. All those whom I teach are greatly impressed and have adopted what I have shown them, because there is no denying the truth, as I present it to them. I use facts, and nothing less, that can be shown while sitting anywhere.
Mystery Babylon is also not a religion as has been taught almost universally. It is a place.
That's enough.
Rev 20:10 And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
The beast, remember has 7 heads and 10 horns.
The false prophet is a man, coming to power through the 1st beast.
The devil is, well, the devil.
The beast, remember has 7 heads and 10 horns.
The false prophet is a man, coming to power through the 1st beast.
The devil is, well, the devil.