Who Wrote The Book Of Hebrews?

[purgedconscience]

I lean towards Paul, but Oldhermit gave a very good argument for Apollos in his Hebrews Study thread. As Lynn stated earlier, all that really matters is that we pay attention to the words of the book.

Whoever wrote the epistle was in bonds at some point in time:

Hebrews chapter 10 verse 34

For ye had compassion of me in my bonds, and took joyfully the spoiling of your goods, knowing in yourselves that ye have in heaven a better and an enduring substance.

Is there any mention in scripture that Apollos was ever in bonds? Off the top of my head, I certainly can't recall any. Also, whoever wrote this epistle was in Italy:

Hebrews chapter 13 verses 23 and 24

Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty; with whom, if he come shortly, I will see you.
Salute all them that have the rule over you, and all the saints. They of Italy salute you.

Does scripture mention anywhere that Apollos was ever in Italy? I recall him being in Corinth and Ephesus, but I don't recall any mention of him ever having been in Italy, do you? We know that Paul was imprisoned and also in Italy and these are but two of many reasons why I lean heavily towards him being the author of the epistle to the Hebrews.

 

[royalscot]

What ???

Only the Jews who did not believe in Jesus as the Messiah still held to the written law.
Nowhere does the bible say Jewish believers are held under the Mosaic written ordinances while Gentile believers are exempt.

We are all held on the same gospel of grace and the scripture you gave from Galatians 2:7 is not speaking of two separate gospels.

Peter was sent to give the gospel of Christ to the Jews, as Paul was sent to give the same gospel of Christ to the Gentiles !!!

There is neither Jew nor Greek (Gentile) under the covenant of grace, we are all one under the same perfect law of liberty to show love to all as He has showed us love first. Believing Jews are no more bound to the written ordinances then we believing Gentiles are !!!

what are you going on about. the book is a jewish christain the writer of hebrews. when did i ask for a bible study. try and keep in context to what i said. so christian is a believer in jesus christ. jew or gentile.

 

[KennethC]

what are you going on about. the book is a jewish christain the writer of hebrews. when did i ask for a bible study. try and keep in context to what i said. so christian is a believer in jesus christ. jew or gentile.

I was in context to what you said as you said Jewish believers are bound to the law, and I responded that they are no more bound to the written ordinances then we are.

The only people who still are bound under the law is unbelievers of Christ as their Messiah, Lord and Savior !!!

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

paul is absolutely ruled out by scripture...

apollos is probably the most likely because he was in alexandria and hebrews shows influences from alexandrian theology...

 

[royalscot]

I was in context to what you said as you said Jewish believers are bound to the law, and I responded that they are no more bound to the written ordinances then we are.

The only people who still are bound under the law is unbelievers of Christ as their Messiah, Lord and Savior !!!

how is this in context to what i was saying about paul and his relationship to being the writer of hebrews. given what paul claims to be apostle to the gentiles. when hebrews is more jewish christain origins and meaning to a jewish temple and it workings etc. in the wording. that even you claimed earlier is different to pauls other books etc.

 

[valiant]

whilst I do not see the question as important in view of the fact that we can never know the answer I do not think that it was Paul. Not only does it lack an opening greeting which was typical of Paul but he speaks of 'our brother Timothy'. Paul spoke of 'my son Timothy'. There is also the question of the non-Pauline style.

 

[passing_through]

paul is absolutely ruled out by scripture...

What chapter and verse?

 

[Billyd]

Whoever wrote the epistle was in bonds at some point in time:

Hebrews chapter 10 verse 34

For ye had compassion of me in my bonds, and took joyfully the spoiling of your goods, knowing in yourselves that ye have in heaven a better and an enduring substance.

Is there any mention in scripture that Apollos was ever in bonds? Off the top of my head, I certainly can't recall any. Also, whoever wrote this epistle was in Italy:

Hebrews chapter 13 verses 23 and 24

Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty; with whom, if he come shortly, I will see you.
Salute all them that have the rule over you, and all the saints. They of Italy salute you.

Does scripture mention anywhere that Apollos was ever in Italy? I recall him being in Corinth and Ephesus, but I don't recall any mention of him ever having been in Italy, do you? We know that Paul was imprisoned and also in Italy and these are but two of many reasons why I lean heavily towards him being the author of the epistle to the Hebrews.

If a greeting (every other letter had one) had been included I would have no problem saying unequivocally that it was written by Paul. I still lean towards Paul.

 

[KennethC]

when was paul preaching about a temple of stone. he was an apostle to the gentiles. so with that thought, you have just moved him out of contention. of the writer of hebrews. theologians are the best proof you have. so why would paul be writing to his jewish roots. or family. etc

they had to touch, on the same topic, gentile and jewish christian believe in jesus christ.
the jewish were held to the requirement of law via a temple of stone. gentile were not. (acts 15)

^^^ Right here above is where you said Jews are required to keep the law and gentiles are not..... ^^^

how is this in context to what i was saying about paul and his relationship to being the writer of hebrews. given what paul claims to be apostle to the gentiles. when hebrews is more jewish christain origins and meaning to a jewish temple and it workings etc. in the wording. that even you claimed earlier is different to pauls other books etc.

As for Paul being the writer for Hebrews this can not be as the writing style and wording is different then Paul's, but it is attributed to possibly one of his understudies because they still instructed in the same manner on each topic.

Also Paul could of had a hand in what was being written because if go and look at Romans you will see that Paul did not write that epistle either;

Romans 16:22
I Tertius, who wrote this epistle, salute you in the Lord.

 

[crossnote]

you still dont have proof it was him. all his other books had a greeting at the beginning. so why not the hebrew book.

style was different because its a different writer.

paul preached about a risen saviour.when talking to a jewish person, he would have no need to go near temple requirements. of law. or law.

give act 15, he was the one that said. 1
But we believe that we will be saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, just as they will."(so when talking to jewish, he would be preaching along the line of grace.
21 I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness were through the law, then Christ died for no purpose.Galatians 2

so saved by grace, not temple requirement via a temple of stone. or a change to a jewish covenant. ie temple of stone.



make no sense. when paul was talking of grace of god through jesus christ.

as I said in post #11 I believe undogmatically it is Paul. I gave my evidence in #11 and #16. No one has proof positive it was anyone in particular...so please don't try turning this into a silly debate. We are giving our best hunches by what little info we have.

PS Hebrews also is a book full of grace...eg heb 4:16

 

[purgedconscience]

If a greeting (every other letter had one) had been included I would have no problem saying unequivocally that it was written by Paul. I still lean towards Paul.

I gave what I believe to be two plausible reasons why Paul wouldn't have given his typical greeting if he truly did author the epistle to the Hebrews on the Hebrews study thread. Paul usually, but not always, began his epistles by identifying himself as an apostle, so if he did write this epistle, then why might he have deliberately failed to do so here? Well, for one thing, Paul was the apostle to the Gentiles whereas Peter was the apostle to the Jews, so Paul might have deliberately dropped his normal greeting while writing to these Jews. Also, whoever the author was, he identified Jesus as the Apostle of our profession in chapter 3, so he might have not mentioned his own apostleship in a greeting in that he was deferring to the exceedingly greater Apostleship of Christ.

 

[crossnote]

It will be interesting to find out in glory.
Let me see, for the Lecture on the Author of Hebrews, go along Heavenly Hall turn right at Cherubim Corridor follow it to room 777, the 3rd door on the right

 

[purgedconscience]

whilst I do not see the question as important in view of the fact that we can never know the answer I do not think that it was Paul. Not only does it lack an opening greeting which was typical of Paul but he speaks of 'our brother Timothy'. Paul spoke of 'my son Timothy'. There is also the question of the non-Pauline style.

To my immediate recollection, the only person in the Bible who refers to Timothy/Timotheus as brother is Paul:

2 Corinthians chapter 1 verse 1

Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timothy our brother, unto the church of God which is at Corinth, with all the saints which are in all Achaia:

Colossians chapter 1 verse 1

Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timotheus our brother,

I Thessalonians chapter 3 verse 2

And sent Timotheus, our brother, and minister of God, and our fellowlabourer in the gospel of Christ, to establish you, and to comfort you concerning your faith:

Philemon verse 1

Paul, a prisoner of Jesus Christ, and Timothy our brother, unto Philemon our dearly beloved, and fellowlabourer,

Compared, of course, to:

Hebrews chapter 13 verse 23

Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty; with whom, if he come shortly, I will see you.

 

[dcontroversal]

God wrote it dia an inspired human agent............!

 

[sydlit]

God wrote it dia an inspired human agent............!

Right! God Bless! And Semper Fi!

 

[AgnusDei]

paul is absolutely ruled out by scripture...

apollos is probably the most likely because he was in alexandria and hebrews shows influences from alexandrian theology...

All I gotta say is this:

God Bless that mind of yours
I learn every time something new when you post

Keep it up!

 

[sydlit]

Well I wonder, wonder , wonder, wonder who, . . . . . Who wrote the book of love?

 

[Budman]

Also Paul could of had a hand in what was being written because if go and look at Romans you will see that Paul did not write that epistle either;

Romans 16:22
I Tertius, who wrote this epistle, salute you in the Lord.

Tertious was Paul's amanuensis, Ken. So, Paul is, in fact, the author of Romans.

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

What chapter and verse?

in hebrews 2:3 the author says the gospel was given to him by those who heard it from jesus...

in galatians 1:12 paul insists that he received the gospel directly from jesus and it was not taught to him by anyone...

 

[resurrection33]

The most likely candidate is Paul.

The book doesn't sound at all like Paul to me, though. Doesn't Paul have a different style?