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Magenta

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"You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again?
It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled underfoot."
 

damombomb

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Do you know Jesus as the Messiah. Muslim is antichrist. They deny the savior of the world, his shed blood for your sin.
Do you want to be part of the end times that deny him and kill and persecute those that do? Even if your peaceful and
such, there is only one way to the Father and that is Christ Jesus.
 
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Yes islam, specifically the koran, is satanic. It is written that Satan masquerades as an angel. As anyone familiar with islam knows the koran allegedly was given to Mohammad by an angel. The alleged angel did not act angelic, nor did it have an angelic name. On top of that all the same being even tortured Mohammad. Furthermore the koran itself is a narration, and the narrator is called We. The narrator of koran, We, is identified within the koran as an angel.

The koran is another gospel, and the koran makes a corruption of most of the major stories in the Bible, particularly the covenants. The Bible says not to heed to another gospel whether it is brought by a man, or very tellingly, even an angel. From other islamic canonical sources (ie: hadith and Ibn Ishaq) it is made known that Mohammad could not read or write, thus Mohammad could not have fabricated the koran. We also know from those sources there was the so-called "satanic verses" incident wherein Mohammad could not tell the difference between Satan and the alleged angel meeting him.

All this put together leaves only one conclusion, that the koran, which means recitation, comes directly from Satan.


The good news in this though is the Bible is in fact true and the God of the Bible is the true God and Jesus is indeed the Word of God. Jesus is forgiving. There is no condemnation if you leave the trap of islam and instead strive towards Christianity.
 
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I'm staying mum on this one in a heartfelt attempt to warm my heart and learn something from my Christian brethren, because honestly, what I have to say right now about islam and it's lost followers makes AllanSnackbar's views seem gentle at heart.
 

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This seems like as good a topic as any to bring up a great Sam Harris quote from "Letters to a Christian Nation":

"Every devout Muslim has the same reasons for being a Muslim that you have for being a Christian. And yet you do not find their reasons compelling....Why don't you lose any sleep over whether to convert to Islam? Can you prove that Allah is not the one, true God? Can you prove that the archangel Gabriel did not visit Muhammad in his cave? Of course not. But you need not prove any of these things to reject the beliefs of Muslims as absurd. The burden is upon them to prove that their beliefs about God and Muhammad are valid. They have not done this. They cannot do this....The truth is, you know exactly what it is like to be an atheist with respect to the beliefs of Muslims. Isn't it obvious Muslims are fooling themselves? Isn't it obvious that anyone who thinks that the Koran is the perfect word of the creator of the universe has not read the book critically?...Understand that the way you view Islam is precisely the way devout Muslims view Christianity. And it is the way I view all religions."
 

Angela53510

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Welcome to CC Bauhous! Please forgive all these people for bring so nasty to you. I am sure you are on the path, looking for truth!

I want you to know that Jesus is the truth. And not just the truth, but the way, the truth and the life. Jesus says no one comes to the Father, but by him.

So I pray you will come to know Isa as more than just s perfect man, but as Lord and Saviour, and that he is God!
 
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Welcome to CC Bauhous! Please forgive all these people for bring so nasty to you. I am sure you are on the path, looking for truth!

I want you to know that Jesus is the truth. And not just the truth, but the way, the truth and the life. Jesus says no one comes to the Father, but by him.

So I pray you will come to know Isa as more than just s perfect man, but as Lord and Saviour, and that he is God!
Who is Isa, dear sister?
 
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This seems like as good a topic as any to bring up a great Sam Harris quote from "Letters to a Christian Nation":

"Every devout Muslim has the same reasons for being a Muslim that you have for being a Christian. And yet you do not find their reasons compelling....Why don't you lose any sleep over whether to convert to Islam? Can you prove that Allah is not the one, true God? Can you prove that the archangel Gabriel did not visit Muhammad in his cave? Of course not.
Actually you can.

The simplest way is etymology. The koran is very subtle in its lies. The best example of this subtlety is in the names of characters in the koran. You will note many apologists will claim the koran or islam talks about the same people as in the Bible, but with differences in the story. Actually though the names of the koranic characters do not correspond most of the time to their alleged Biblical counterparts.

For instance the koran talks a lot about Isa. Many apologists both muslim and even some wayward Christians will claim muslims believe in Jesus. Yet the truth is they do not, nor does the koran ever mention Jesus. The Koran refers to Isa, and Isa has a somewhat similar story to Jesus, but of course in a totally corrupted manner. The key to figuring this out is that Jesus' name means God is Salvation. The name Isa on the other hand has no known meaning, it is literally meaningless.
 
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sparkman

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Sam Harris is an atheist. As such, he's defined in Scripture as a fool.

When he can answer the question of how the creation came into being without a transcendent cause, he may be worth a listen..I won't hold my breath on that one.

If anyone wants to listen to fools babbling, listen to Lawrence Krause or Richard Dawkens describe how something came from nothing without a transcendent cause...during the course of their explanations, notice how "nothing" gets redefined as "something".

:D

The universe did not self-generate as their theories claim..this is an absurdity.

Romans 1: [SUP]18 [/SUP]For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. [SUP]19 [/SUP]For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. [SUP]20 [/SUP]For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world,[SUP][g][/SUP] in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. [SUP]21 [/SUP]For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. [SUP]22 [/SUP]Claiming to be wise, they became fools, [SUP]23 [/SUP]and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things


This seems like as good a topic as any to bring up a great Sam Harris quote from "Letters to a Christian Nation":

"Every devout Muslim has the same reasons for being a Muslim that you have for being a Christian. And yet you do not find their reasons compelling....Why don't you lose any sleep over whether to convert to Islam? Can you prove that Allah is not the one, true God? Can you prove that the archangel Gabriel did not visit Muhammad in his cave? Of course not. But you need not prove any of these things to reject the beliefs of Muslims as absurd. The burden is upon them to prove that their beliefs about God and Muhammad are valid. They have not done this. They cannot do this....The truth is, you know exactly what it is like to be an atheist with respect to the beliefs of Muslims. Isn't it obvious Muslims are fooling themselves? Isn't it obvious that anyone who thinks that the Koran is the perfect word of the creator of the universe has not read the book critically?...Understand that the way you view Islam is precisely the way devout Muslims view Christianity. And it is the way I view all religions."
 
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"Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war." (Qur'an 9: 5)
Can you please give us the conversation between Angel Gabriel and muhammad in the cave according to the Quran.

Thank you and GOD the FATHER of our LORD JESUS CHRIST bless you.
 
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Can you prove that the archangel Gabriel did not visit Muhammad in his cave? Of course not.
Of course, yes. Jesus said on the Cross, "it is complete."

His death and Resurrection completed God's will for the means of our salvation.
 
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Can you please give us the conversation between Angel Gabriel and muhammad in the cave according to the Quran.

Thank you and GOD the FATHER of our LORD JESUS CHRIST bless you.
Why don't you do it?
 
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This whole thread is a crock! Mr. bahous seems to be full of comments but is short on replying. Get wise folks.
 

crossnote

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Evolutionary storytelling tells us that all of humanity are descended from the common ancestors of apes. So does that mean we're all Jews from an Islamic perspective? Or just that evolution is a load of poisonous sewerage? I'll let you decide. But you better choose the latter, you anti-Semite. ;)
No, seeing the ark landed on Mt. Ararat, we are all a bunch of Turkeys :)
 
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TRSSS1stPresident

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Oh boy! You're the exact kind of person bahous was looking for too. No one easier to win over than a conspiracy theorist. lol
Rev. Alberto Romeo Rivera I believe was a true Born-Again Christian and he spoke the truth. I read the Comic book version about how the exposure in Spain where he was from happened that the Catholic priests and nuns were doing it behind the bedroom doors and they had to have abortions according to the books and strangely right after that, a fascist named Franco took over as a dictator and made the country entirely Catholic as much as possible so the Jesuits can control the problems in Spain and was successful.

Now, the pattern is the same in the United States and I have proof. Quite a bit of proof but I will give you one. You have to research yourself. Alberto was exposing the truth about the Catholic church and guess what, they poisoned him to death to shut him up! If the Catholic church was doing that to him, Uh oh! They goof up because they said he was not a Catholic and all that.. and well, they actually shut him up because he was speaking the truth! Because of this, his death was in 1997 and then we had horrible event happened in year 2001 and now who is in the Office in Washington, DC? Is that man in Washington, DC Christian? I doubt it. Did you see the pattern since 1997? They are shutting us up just like they did in Spain with a fascist ruler in the US now. Please do your own research before you claim it is a conspiracy theory. There are many other subjects that are conspiracy theories out there.. Check them out..
 

SoulWeaver

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Reason for yourself which one seems real to you. Simply compare the two Heavens in the books, and see what you get.

Quran's Paradise talks about activities such as eating and drinking wine, being rich and served by many servants, getting numerous female companions for males and other such pleasures.

The Bible, however, expounds in its glimpses that in Heaven we will be "like angels" and thus not getting married at all, that we will "see God as He is"/see His face (relationship), be "manifested as sons of God" (angelic nature), that Heaven is "not eating and drinking, but joy in the Holy Ghost", that God is preparing unimaginable-to-man things for those that love Him (relationship), oneness in spirit (relationship), constant ongoing prayer of saints in Heaven, voices crying to God for justice, worshiping and serving GOD (in contrast to men being served in Quran).

God also being spirit Himself, reason for yourself, which heaven of these two seems more like THE Heaven to YOU? Which one looks in comparison to be invented by the wishful thinking of man, aka satan's impostership? Honestly now...

Tangible descriptions follow Quran Heaven, versus strong spiritual/holiness, intangible descriptions that follow Bible Heaven. Muslim paradise is simply like, there will be plenty of water in there. That's it. Just what someone living in the desert in the 5th century would like to hear. Muslim paradise will have milk, water and wine. Sounds good, until you compare it to the Bible and find that these drinks are completely void of spiritual meaning in Quran. It's all only for drinks and merriness.

When there is drink or food described in the Bible, it's typically a parable and the spiritual meanings are expounded in New Testament (the reveal). In the Bible, water is the Gospel of Jesus; wine is the righteous teachings of Jesus, and so on. Observe how the Bible refers to food and drink, from milk to manna, for the purpose to illustrate receiving the words, instructions and life from God, it's all about relationship and fellowship with God and tied with meanings which reiterate themselves consistently throughout the whole of the Bible. We are down here because man fell off the life-giving fellowship with God. But Quran simply ends at eating and drinking.

I could write much more, but this is just what made kinda the heaviest impression on me when I was reading Quran in the past.

God bless