There are many so-called bible scholars who are not true believers. I was not pointing fingers, there is nothing wrong with honest questions. Before becoming a Christian, I wondered about many things which gave me doubt. But I asked many questions and got answers that helped me believe and understand. There's nothing wrong with asking questions, the answers are all in the bible. Jesus was baptized by John because he was and is our example. The Holy Spirit ascended upon him at that time and he began his ministry.
Why John didn't say Jesus was the Messiah?
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John's book is unique, which is why it is not counted among the synoptic gospels. I heard a statistic recently that claimed over 90% of John's gospel was not in the other gospels. Why should he repeat what has already been said when he is introducing so much new material and filling in the blanks?
Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written. John 21:25
Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written. John 21:25
No doubt...Jesus said the law and prophets were until John...I called John a transitionary hinge pin between the law and prophets and the age that would come to be labeled the church age....John was under a different system and John's ministry was to prepare the material for the 1st N.T. church which Jesus founded when he called out his first one to three disciples.....Many miss this fact including our new found Muslim friend here!
Yes, John the Baptist, son of Zacharias and his Levitical wife Elizabeth, were earliest recorded of Jesus' relatives to doubt Jesus' ministry, not commending him until much later. It's quite understandable for close family members to ignore one another, refusing to see anything special about a cousin.
Jesus' friends, even Mary, his mother, and brethren thought he was gone mad as recorded in
Mark 3:20-21 (KJV)
[SUP]20 [/SUP] And the multitude cometh together again, so that they could not so much as eat bread.
[SUP]21 [/SUP] And when his friends heard of it, they went out to lay hold on him: for they said, He is beside himself.
and again later family joined with friends in Mark 3:31-35 (KJV)
[SUP]31 [/SUP] There came then his brethren and his mother, and, standing without, sent unto him, calling him.
[SUP]32 [/SUP] And the multitude sat about him, and they said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren without seek for thee.
[SUP]33 [/SUP] And he answered them, saying, Who is my mother, or my brethren?
[SUP]34 [/SUP] And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
[SUP]35 [/SUP] For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.
Jesus backed up his action there in Mark 10:29-31 (KJV)
[SUP]29 [/SUP] And Jesus answered and said, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake, and the gospel's,
[SUP]30 [/SUP] But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life.
[SUP]31 [/SUP] But many that are first shall be last; and the last first.
It's vital to stick with scriptures before claiming error in the Bible. Scholars have discussed all this for many centuries, not at all concluding that John was in error claiming what he claimed. He easily might not have known his cousin Jesus, while John lived in a highland village of Judah, Jesus in Nazareth. Even had they met in their youth there is no indication John had knowledge of anything special about his cousin, seeing that family sought later to seize Jesus and take him home to safety where they might change his mind. His half brother James came around later, writing the book of James (not the apostle).
John was called to preach the coming of the Savior, but didn't know the name of the Savior. At the baptism of Jesus the Lord revealed the true identity of Jesus to John, though later John questioned it briefly while in prison.
After Jesus was crucified and resurrected, he sent down the Holy Spirit and baptized them all in the upper room just like he said he would. John included. When John baptized Jesus, the Holy Spirit came on him and a voice from heaven said, this is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased. John was to proclaim Jesus as the messiah. Pray for the truth.
John chapter 1
1In the beginninga was the Word,
and the Word was with God,
and the Word was God
2He was with God in the beginning.
3All things were createdf through Him,
and apart from Him not one thing was created
that has been created.
4Life was in Him,
and that life was the lightj of men.
5That light shinesk in the darkness,
yet the darkness did not overcomel it.
6There was a man named John
who was sent from God.
7He came as a witness
to testify about the light,
so that all might believe through him.
8He was not the light,
but he came to testify about the light.
9The true light, who gives light to everyone,
was coming into the world.
10He was in the world,
and the world was createdt through Him,
yet the •world did not recognize Him.
11He came to His own
and His own people did not receive Him.
12But to all who did receive Him,
He gave them the right to be childrenof God,
to those who believe in His name,ad
13who were born,
not of blood,
or of the will of the flesh,
or of the will of man,
but of God.
14The Word became flesh
and took up residence among us.
We observed His glory,
the glory as the One and Only Son from the Father,
full of grace and truth.
15(John testified concerning Him and exclaimed,
“This was the One of whom I said,
‘The One coming after me has surpassed me,
because He existed before me.’
16Indeed, we have all received grace after grace
from His fullness,
17for the law was given through Moses,
grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.
18No one has ever seen God
The One and Only Son
the One who is at the Father’s side
He has revealed Him.
Mabye the Lord bought you here on purpose to know the truth. Unless you believe, you will die in your sins.
John chapter 1
1In the beginninga was the Word,
and the Word was with God,
and the Word was God
2He was with God in the beginning.
3All things were createdf through Him,
and apart from Him not one thing was created
that has been created.
4Life was in Him,
and that life was the lightj of men.
5That light shinesk in the darkness,
yet the darkness did not overcomel it.
6There was a man named John
who was sent from God.
7He came as a witness
to testify about the light,
so that all might believe through him.
8He was not the light,
but he came to testify about the light.
9The true light, who gives light to everyone,
was coming into the world.
10He was in the world,
and the world was createdt through Him,
yet the •world did not recognize Him.
11He came to His own
and His own people did not receive Him.
12But to all who did receive Him,
He gave them the right to be childrenof God,
to those who believe in His name,ad
13who were born,
not of blood,
or of the will of the flesh,
or of the will of man,
but of God.
14The Word became flesh
and took up residence among us.
We observed His glory,
the glory as the One and Only Son from the Father,
full of grace and truth.
15(John testified concerning Him and exclaimed,
“This was the One of whom I said,
‘The One coming after me has surpassed me,
because He existed before me.’
16Indeed, we have all received grace after grace
from His fullness,
17for the law was given through Moses,
grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.
18No one has ever seen God
The One and Only Son
the One who is at the Father’s side
He has revealed Him.
Mabye the Lord bought you here on purpose to know the truth. Unless you believe, you will die in your sins.
Hi , Dan thank you for your understanding. i search God like you.
No, what is you wrote in not convincing. because in all last John's verse perhaps 21/30 it is written " i am writing for you in order to believe that Jesus was tHe Messiah , the son of God." excuse me if i 've bad interpreted the verse. i have no text under my eyes.
This mesns all the Christian in the first time didn't believe Jesus was the Messiah. and the last gospel was trying to correst the previous books. by the way in his first letter it is written " who is the liar if whor are'nt believing Jesus is the Messiah".
This clear the first communit hadn't in mind Jesus as the Messiah. see John 7/31. mark 12/35; Mathiew 22/41 in wich Jesus warned his disciples to not tell anyone that he is the Messiahù. and all Christian all the world are in the common belief that Jesuwasnot full filling any caracter of the Messiah. i don't hide the Messiah is another. is it not John , is not Jesus.
No, what is you wrote in not convincing. because in all last John's verse perhaps 21/30 it is written " i am writing for you in order to believe that Jesus was tHe Messiah , the son of God." excuse me if i 've bad interpreted the verse. i have no text under my eyes.
This mesns all the Christian in the first time didn't believe Jesus was the Messiah. and the last gospel was trying to correst the previous books. by the way in his first letter it is written " who is the liar if whor are'nt believing Jesus is the Messiah".
This clear the first communit hadn't in mind Jesus as the Messiah. see John 7/31. mark 12/35; Mathiew 22/41 in wich Jesus warned his disciples to not tell anyone that he is the Messiahù. and all Christian all the world are in the common belief that Jesuwasnot full filling any caracter of the Messiah. i don't hide the Messiah is another. is it not John , is not Jesus.
"Dont tell anyone" was about God's timing. When the time had come, Jesus started telling everybody that He was God and getting attacked for it.
Yes, the pharisee establishment had no clue at first that Jesus was the Messiah. They did not expect someone who would come in a low status, physically uncomely and humble.
Can we agree that all virtues are found and abundantly in God? Muslims believe that submission to holy guidance and humbleness is a virtue, well guess what, by being baptized by John Jesus gives us example of exactly this virtue. Jesus did it because God told John that's how he would recognize Him. An evil one does not know how to submit to authority, because he is a child of rebellion like satan. God had given us an example of EVERY virtue and proceedingly He has the rights to demand it from man. If God asks of man to have a virtue, but He did not demonstrate it Himself, what does that make Him? What would be a thief that tells you "do not steal"? Right, a hypocrite.
Muslim god asks for submission, obedience and humbleness, but never demonstrates the possession of these virtues. Christian God showed us example of every virtue that abides in Him.
Philippians 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
Just food for thought.
Yes, the pharisee establishment had no clue at first that Jesus was the Messiah. They did not expect someone who would come in a low status, physically uncomely and humble.
Can we agree that all virtues are found and abundantly in God? Muslims believe that submission to holy guidance and humbleness is a virtue, well guess what, by being baptized by John Jesus gives us example of exactly this virtue. Jesus did it because God told John that's how he would recognize Him. An evil one does not know how to submit to authority, because he is a child of rebellion like satan. God had given us an example of EVERY virtue and proceedingly He has the rights to demand it from man. If God asks of man to have a virtue, but He did not demonstrate it Himself, what does that make Him? What would be a thief that tells you "do not steal"? Right, a hypocrite.
Muslim god asks for submission, obedience and humbleness, but never demonstrates the possession of these virtues. Christian God showed us example of every virtue that abides in Him.
Philippians 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
Just food for thought.
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But Jesus asked His disciples, 'who do you say that I am?' And Peter replied, 'you are the Messiah, the Son of the living God' (Matthew 16.15-16; Mark 9.29; Luke 9.20 ).
Jesus said then. 'My Father has revealed this to you'. This was a clear indication that He was the Messiah' Matt 16.17).
So how can you say that they did not believe that Jesus was the Messiah? Those who knew Him did believe it. And indeed Peter proclaimed it to everyone in Acts 2.36 right at the beginning. You have misunderstood.