English Please!

[Galahad]

Hello and God bless everyone. I decided to chime in on the topic The point of scripture isn't so much about how you pronounce a name, but more about the person of Jesus/Yeshua. However, there is much to be derived when studying the original languages of Paleo Hebrew and Greek. For instance, Yeshua is more an Aramaic pronunciation of the Paleo Hebrew name Yahushua. Yahushua translates to Joshua in the English. Understanding this, we can see some treasures in scripture not immediately evident in the English. For example, Moshe/Moses was an example of the Torah/Law and how it pointed to the promised land, but never actually took the Israelites into the promised land. It was Joshua/Yahushua who took the Israelites into the promised land; a similitude of Torah pointing to the need for salvation but only fulfilled in our Messiah Yahushua/Jesus.

Thank you Jonah. I mean Jonnah. (Red line under Jonnah! Spell check. But what does spell check know.)

 

[Galahad]

You mean, "Sozo" ?

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[JesusistheChrist]

Jesus is not named in hebrew. Jesus ushered in a new dispensation for us, one that includes everyone. Jesus was a man. Where in the old testament was there a man named Jesus?
You think that using a hebrew name somehow elevates your righteousness. That is not only asinine, it is stupid.

Actually, the Hebrew word "yeshua" appears 78 times in the underlying Hebrew of the Old Testament and it is most often translated as "salvation" in our English Bibles:

Hebrew Lexicon :: H3444 (KJV)

When the angel Gabriel told Mary to name her child "Jesus for He shall save His people from their sins" (Matthew 1:21), this was done in direct relation to Jesus' Hebrew name, Yeshua, which literally means "salvation". As such, I'd recommend that you calm down quite a bit and stop verbally assaulting those who are doing nothing wrong and who apparently know more than you do in this regard.

 

[Galahad]

English is not sure about my name... what a problem!!!

I'm sure I can find a picture that might illustrate your name, BS.

 

[Is]

Just cool it. This was not posted to you, nor for you, nor for you to try to start a debate. Both my introduction, and the first paragraph of the article clearly state we Christians don't believe this way.

So, we can only reply to things that are posted to us? Geeeeeez Go figure.

 

[Willie-T]

So, we can only reply to things that are posted to us? Geeeeeez Go figure.

Well, when you don't really read the post you are responding to, and are trying to turn into an argument, "Yeah", it's probably best not to reply so quickly.

 

[Galahad]

So, we can only reply to things that are posted to us? Geeeeeez Go figure.

No. You can respond to any post. But should you? That's the question you should ask yourself. In this case, Willie has determined you should've butted out. Now, should you respond to Willie's judgment? I would say, No. Just follow it. Trust me, you will save yourself a lot of trouble.

Oh, you will. You will.

 

[phil112]

Actually, the Hebrew word "yeshua" appears 78 times in the underlying Hebrew of the Old Testament and it is most often translated as "salvation" in our English Bibles:

Hebrew Lexicon :: H3444 (KJV)

When the angel Gabriel told Mary to name her child "Jesus for He shall save His people from their sins" (Matthew 1:21), this was done in direct relation to Jesus' Hebrew name, Yeshua, which literally means "salvation". As such, I'd recommend that you calm down quite a bit and stop verbally assaulting those who are doing nothing wrong and who apparently know more than you do in this regard.

I'd recommend you improve your reading comprehension and then read my post again.
I use the KJV and nowhere does it say Jesus Christ in it in the old testament.
In my bible Jesus Christ is a man born of Mary by the holy Spirit. Again, I don't find that event in the old testament.

Since recommendations seem to be a key word for you, I'd also recommend you study Hebrews and learn the difference between the old and the new covenants. You know the covenant Christ the man ushered in because the old one was faulted.
I'd also recommend you and others stop trying to pretend you are part of old testament Israel and stop clinging words and terminology that was never meant for you.

 

[KohenMatt]

Seems like people should focus less on the way the name is said, and understand WHO the name refers to. It shouldn't be an issue an either way.

 

[Willie-T]

Weren't all the OT references pertaining to showing the coming of a "Messiah?" And weren't references to Jesus, speaking of a particular man, born to Mary? Or, is this too limiting a view?

 

[valiant]

Weren't all the OT references pertaining to showing the coming of a "Messiah?" And weren't references to Jesus, speaking of a particular man, born to Mary? Or, is this too limiting a view?

well I presume that most of the references to Yeshua were to Joshua !!

The Messiah as such was not known in OT days. 'The anointed one' in the Old Testament referred to the coming king of the house of David, but NOT as a MESSIAH

 

[KohenMatt]

What is the Hebrew word for "salvation"?

 

[atwhatcost]

So it's 'Jesus' and not 'Yeshua... '
'the LORD' and not 'Yah, Yahweh, Jehovah' etc.

Thank you.

Ahhhh, man! You're hiding too much of your profile and I don't know flags. If memory serves me right, you're from Scandinavia somewhere. (And my memory rarely serves me, so I could be wrong. lol) I'm pretty sure English isn't your primary language wherever you come from, so what's the big deal? Are you going to bust on me if I call a deli-meat sandwich with lots of lettuce, tomatoes, raw onions, olive oil, and just the right blend of herbs on a huge Italian roll a hoagie too? It's a local word -- hoagie. I spent three years of my life outside my region of the States wanting one, but no one knew what it was, so I couldn't eat one. The day we were coming home -- back to our region of the country -- Dad stopped off at a sandwich shop to pack for the drive. Up on the menu board was pictures of all their sandwiches. THREE years without a hoagie, yet the hoagie was right there. That area of the country called them Po' Boys. Yeesh! So you're going to bust on me for calling it a hoagie too?

Honestly? Once I figured out Greeks don't call their country "Greece," Russians don't call their country "Russia," and I could never learn where Torres was from an Italian that doesn't speak American, I gave up worrying what other people call people, places or things. Besides, I don't speak English. I speak American. (Ask the English and the Canadians. They know the difference. lol) So I'll keep calling God what I want to call him. He knows who I'm talking to. You know who I'm talking about (maybe.)

And he's the one who gave us the word Jehovah to describe him. All of him. Jesus included.

Don't be so persnickety as to assume it has to be your way.

 

[Viligant_Warrior]

What is the Hebrew word for "salvation"?

h[wXy (yeshuw'ah). Why?

 

[posthuman]

I'm sure I can find a picture that might illustrate your name, BS.

here's one!

I would have you wise unto that which is good, and simple concerning evil.
(Romans 16:19) ​

 

[Viligant_Warrior]

here's one!



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I would have you wise unto that which is good, and simple concerning evil.
(Romans 16:19) ​

Whew! That was a close one!

 

[atwhatcost]

I agree with you. I wonder if people go up to the window at McDonalds, and order a cheeseburger in Hebrew. I feel the same way about the use of "Christianese" all the time.... when the words really are nothing more than semi-old Elizabethan English, not God's secret language.

Although I am guilty of using "Ha Satan" to specifically indicate the evil power present in our lives.

Good luck asking an Israeli who doesn't speak English for a McDonald's hamburger. Of course people ask for their hamburger in their own language.

 

[posthuman]

Ahhhh, man! You're hiding too much of your profile and I don't know flags. If memory serves me right, you're from Scandinavia somewhere.

Didy's from the Netherlands.

if you're using chrome, you can right-click on the flag and search google for the image. may need to add "flag" to the search string

 

[atwhatcost]

It would be interesting to know why you feel comfortable with the Greek name of Jesus but not His Hebrew name?

Same reason I have trouble placing an order for Italian or Greek food -- I feel stupid not being able to pronounce the words. I can spell them. I can eat them. I can't say them. lol

Now that I gave you an honest answer, I'm equally as nosy. Why do you call him Yeshua? Not saying you can't, just curious why you do.

 

[BarlyGurl]

... well I pray to GEE-ZAHS but some "dialects" pronounce "HAY-SOOS"... I happen to like the Hebrew words... they are specific.