The Apostasy

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It is one of the leading doctrines of Romanism that the pope is the visible head of the universal church of Christ, invested in supreme authority over bishops and pastors in all parts of the world. More than this, the pope has been given the very titles of Deity. He has been styled "Lord God the Pope" and this has been declared infallible. He demands the homage of all men. The same claim urged by Satan in the wilderness of temptation is still urged by him through the Church of Rome, and vast numbers are ready to yield him homage. But those who fear and reverence God meet this heaven-daring assumption as Christ met the solicitations of the wily foe: "Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and Him only shalt thou serve." Luke 4:8. God has never given a hint in His word that He has appointed any man to be the head of the church. The doctrine of papal supremacy is directly opposed to the teaching of the Scriptures. The pope can have no power over Christ's church except by usurpation.

Romanist have persisted in bringing against Protestants the charge of heresy and willful separation from the true church. But these accusations apply rather to themselves. They are the ones who laid down the banner of Christ and departed from "the faith which was once delivered unto the saints" Jude 3.

Satan well knew that the Holy Scriptures would enable men to discern his deceptions and withstand his power. It was by the word that even the Saviour of the world had resisted his attacks. At every assault, Christ presented the shield of eternal truth, saying, "It is written." To every suggestion of the adversary, He opposed the wisdom and power of the word. In order for Satan to maintain his sway over men, and establish the authority of the papal usurper, he must keep them in ignorance of the Scriptures. The Bible would exalt God and place finite men in their true position; therefore its sacred truths must be concealed and suppress. This logic was adopted by the Roman Church. For hundreds of years the circulation of the Bible was prohibited. The people were forbidden to read it or to have it in their houses, and unprincipled priest and prelates interpreted its teaching to sustain their pretensions. Thus the pope came to be almost universally acknowledged as the vicegerent of God on earth, endowed with authority over church ans state.

The detector of error having been removed, Satan worked according to his will. Prophecy had declared that the papacy was to "think to change times and laws." Daniel 7:25. This work it was not slow to attempt. To afford converts from heathenism a substitute for the worship of idols, and thus to promote their nominal acceptance of Christianity, the adoration of images and relics was gradually introduced into the Christian worship. The decree of a general council finally established this system of idolatry. The complete the sacrilegious work, Rome presumed to expunge-from the law of God the second commandment, forbidding image worship, and to divide the the tenth commandment, in order to preserve the number.

The spirit of concession to paganism opened the way for a still further disregard of Heaven's authority. Satan, working through unconsecrated leaders of the church, tampered with the fourth commandment also, and essayed to set aside the ancient Sabbath, the day which God had blessed and sanctified (Genesis 2:2, 3), and in its stead to exalt the festival observed by the heathen as "the venerable day of the sun." This change was not at first attempted openly. In the first centuries the true Sabbath had been kept by all Christians. They were jealous for the honor of God, and believing that His law is immutable, they zealously guarded the sacredness of its precepts. But with great subtlety Satan worked through his agents to bring about his object. That the attention of the people might be CALLED TO THE SUNDAY, IT WAS MADE A FESTIVAL OF HONOR OF THE RESURRECTION OF CHRIST. Religious services were held upon it; yet it was regarded as a day of recreation, the Sabbath being still sacredly observed.

To prepare the way for the work which he designed to accomplish, Satan had led the Jews, before the advent of Christ, to load down the Sabbath with the most rigorous exactions, making its observance a burden. Now, taking advantage of the false light in which he had thus caused it to be regarded, he cast contempt upon its as a Jewish institution. While Christians generally continued to observe the Sunday of a joyous festival, he led them in order to show their hatred of Judaism, to make the Sabbath a fast, a day of sadness and gloom.

In the early part of the fourth century the emperor Constantine issued a decree making Sunday a public festal throughout the Roman Empire. The day of the sun was reverenced by his pagan subjects and was honored by Christians; it was the emperor's policy to unite the conflicting interests of heathenism and Christianity. He was urged to do this by the bishops of the church, who, inspired by ambition and thirst for power, perceived that if the same day was observed by both Christians and heathen, it would promote the nominal acceptance of Christianity by pagans and thus advance the power and glory of the church. But while many God-fearing Christians were gradually led to regard Sunday as possessing a degree of sacredness, they still held the true Sabbath as the holy of the Lord and observed it in obedience to the forth commandment.

The arch deceiver had not completed his work. He was resolved to gather the Christian world under his banner and exercise his power through his vicegerent, the proud pontiff who claimed to be the representative of Christ. Through half-converted pagans, ambitious prelates, and world-loving churchmen he accomplished his purpose. Vast councils were held from time to time, in which the dignitaries of the church were convened from all the world. In nearly every council the Sabbath which God had instituted was pressed down a little lower, while the Bible Sabbath was pronounced a relic of Judaism, and its observers were declared to be accursed.

The great apostate had succeeded in exalting himself "above all that is called God, or that is worshiped." 2 Thessalonians 2:4. He has dared to change the only precept of the divine law that unmistakably points all mankind to the true and living God. In the fourth commandment, God is revealed as the Creator of the heavens and the earth, and is thereby distinguished from all false gods. It was a memorial of the work of creation that the seventh day was sanctified as a rest day for man. It was designed to keep the living God ever before the minds of men as the source of being and the object of reverence and worship. Satan tries to turn men from their allegiance to God, and from rendering obedience to His law; therefore he directs his efforts especially against the commandment which points to God as the Creator.

Protestants now urged that the resurrection of Christ on Sunday made it the Christian Sabbath. but Scripture evidence is lacking. No such honor was given to the day by Christ or His apostles. The observance of Sunday as a Christian institution had its origin in that "mystery of lawlessness" (Thessalonians 2:7, R.V.) which, even in Paul's day, had begun its work. Where and when did the Lord adopt this child of the papacy? What valid reason can be given for a change which the Scriptures do not sanction?

In the sixth century the papacy had become firmly established. Its seat of power was fixed in the imperial city. and the bishop of Rome was declared to be the head over the entire church. Paganism had given a place to the papacy. The dragon had given to the beast "his power, and seat, and great authority." Revelation 13:2 And now began the 1260 years of papal oppression foretold in the prophecies of Daniel and the Revelation. Daniel 7:25; Revelation 13:5-7. Christians were forced to choose either to yield their integrity and accept the papal ceremonies and worship, or to wear away their lives in dungeons, or suffer death by the rack, the fagot, or the headsmen ax. Now were fulfilled the words of Jesus: "Ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethern, and kinsfolk, and friend; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death. And ye shall be hated of all men for My name's sake." Luke 21:16, 17. Persecution opened upon the faithful with greater fury than ever before, and the world became a vast battlefield. For hundreds of years the church of Christ found refuge in seclusion and obscurity. Thus says the prophet: "The woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days." Revelation 12:6.


Here is evidence that the past is very much in the present with this Mark of the Beast;


Pope Francis: God has Instructed Me To Revise the Ten Commandments. RealNewsRightNow.com July 6, 2015

Pope's New Sunday Keeping Appeal: August 12, 2015. Radio address on Wednesday from the Vatican Radio Broadcast.."Sundays Are A Gift From God, "Don't ruin it."

Theme for 2016..Part of the Agenda for America when he comes in September of 2015. "World Day of Peace"

3. For when they shall say, Peace and safety: then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child: and they shall not escape.

4. But ye, brethern, are not in darkness, that that day should overcome you as a thief. Ye are all children of the day; we are not of the night, nor of darkness.

5. Therefore let us not sleep, as do others: but let us watch and be sober. For they that sleep, sleep in the nigh: and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.

6. But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love: and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.
1 Thessalonians 5:3



Ecumenical Move: Pope Francis establishes World Day of Prayer for Creation August 10, 2015

Pope Francis, "Let Jesus Satisfy Your Hunger for God" July 26, 2015.

(Remember the Pope calls himself "Lord God The Pope").


Vatican Ropes in Global Leaders to Fight Climate Change July 26, 2015.

What Pope Francis Might Be planning to Tell the UN in New York. July 23, 2015. Here he met with US mayors at the Vatican.

In the ForeRunner Chronicles 3 years ago on June 2, 2012 Pope Benedict XVI declared to be an enthusiastic audience of 15,000 pilgrims in St Peters Square in the Vatican City that, "Sunday must be a day of rest for every one."

And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond to receive a mark in their right hand or in their foreheads. That no man might buy or sell, saye he that had the mark or the name of the beast or the number of his name. Here is wisdom, Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man: and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. Revelation 13:15-18.

The Funeral of Pope John Paul II covered live by NBC News covered on You Tube. there you will find every world leader paying homage to the dead pope on April 2005.

And I saw, one of this heads as if were wounded to death: and his deadly wound was healed and all the would wondered after the beast. Revelation 13:3.


These are the comments that some of the nay sayers said to me concerning my post on the Antichrist of the pope and America:



Tanach says: Yes, some more of Ellen White propaganda for our consumption. It is getting rather tedious.

Megenta says
" Is this nonsense what we are going to find in your threads?

Angela 53510 says:

It's a basic rant tying America's collapse together with not celebrating the Sabbath...it was insinuated at every turn...as for their souls, Sabbath keeping is just an old law that Jesus did away with when he died on the cross and rose 3 days later...the gospel will be spread in spite of SDA's attempts to teach a false gospel of salvation keeping the law of Moses does not constitute salvation...not picking a bunch of American patriotic buzz words and try and manipulate the masses to follow your legalism.

AceMichael says:

What's my point? The problem I have with you piece is nothing but speculation and obviously plagiarized from some weird tract about Catholicism being the beast. This is OLD NEWS and not funny any more. This Antichrist will come from somewhere in Turkey not Rome. You also give the pope too much credit.

Nauitilus says: Well Heretics will be heretics.


After examining the evidence on the news of today in our history, they and you will see that the Bible, Ellen G. Whites and World News are all aligned..and no it was never funny..Examine for yourselves and don't just listen to them because they think its yesterday's news. God says, what was, is what is and what is yet to come. Ezekiel chapter 2 and 3.
 
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Oh snap! Why didnt you put your last paragraph first? I could have saved myself a few minutes to read something worthy of God.
The SDA demon has blinded you
 

G4JC

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TL;DR: Yes, the Pope is an anti-christ. Falsely representing God and the gospel, while saying he here's directly from him.

Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
- I John 2:18-19



No, Ellen G. White is a false prophet.
Ellen White versus the Bible
E.G. White prophesied the world would end in 1843, 1844, 1845 and 1851 : "Now time is almost finished, (1851) and what we have been 6 years in learning they will have to learn in months." (Early Writings, p.57).
 
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Where do you come up with this garbage?
 

jb

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It is one of the leading doctrines of Romanism that the pope is the visible head of the universal church of Christ, invested in supreme authority over bishops and pastors in all parts of the world. More than this, the pope has been given the very titles of Deity. He has been styled "Lord God the Pope" and this has been declared infallible. He demands the homage of all men. The same claim urged by Satan in the wilderness of temptation is still urged by him through the Church of Rome, and vast numbers are ready to yield him homage. But those who fear and reverence God meet this heaven-daring assumption as Christ met the solicitations of the wily foe: "Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and Him only shalt thou serve." Luke 4:8. God has never given a hint in His word that He has appointed any man to be the head of the church. The doctrine of papal supremacy is directly opposed to the teaching of the Scriptures. The pope can have no power over Christ's church except by usurpation.

Romanist have persisted in bringing against Protestants the charge of heresy and willful separation from the true church. But these accusations apply rather to themselves. They are the ones who laid down the banner of Christ and departed from "the faith which was once delivered unto the saints" Jude 3.

Satan well knew that the Holy Scriptures would enable men to discern his deceptions and withstand his power. It was by the word that even the Saviour of the world had resisted his attacks. At every assault, Christ presented the shield of eternal truth, saying, "It is written." To every suggestion of the adversary, He opposed the wisdom and power of the word. In order for Satan to maintain his sway over men, and establish the authority of the papal usurper, he must keep them in ignorance of the Scriptures. The Bible would exalt God and place finite men in their true position; therefore its sacred truths must be concealed and suppress. This logic was adopted by the Roman Church. For hundreds of years the circulation of the Bible was prohibited. The people were forbidden to read it or to have it in their houses, and unprincipled priest and prelates interpreted its teaching to sustain their pretensions. Thus the pope came to be almost universally acknowledged as the vicegerent of God on earth, endowed with authority over church ans state.

The detector of error having been removed, Satan worked according to his will. Prophecy had declared that the papacy was to "think to change times and laws." Daniel 7:25. This work it was not slow to attempt. To afford converts from heathenism a substitute for the worship of idols, and thus to promote their nominal acceptance of Christianity, the adoration of images and relics was gradually introduced into the Christian worship. The decree of a general council finally established this system of idolatry. The complete the sacrilegious work, Rome presumed to expunge-from the law of God the second commandment, forbidding image worship, and to divide the the tenth commandment, in order to preserve the number.

The spirit of concession to paganism opened the way for a still further disregard of Heaven's authority. Satan, working through unconsecrated leaders of the church, tampered with the fourth commandment also, and essayed to set aside the ancient Sabbath, the day which God had blessed and sanctified (Genesis 2:2, 3), and in its stead to exalt the festival observed by the heathen as "the venerable day of the sun." This change was not at first attempted openly. In the first centuries the true Sabbath had been kept by all Christians. They were jealous for the honor of God, and believing that His law is immutable, they zealously guarded the sacredness of its precepts. But with great subtlety Satan worked through his agents to bring about his object. That the attention of the people might be CALLED TO THE SUNDAY, IT WAS MADE A FESTIVAL OF HONOR OF THE RESURRECTION OF CHRIST. Religious services were held upon it; yet it was regarded as a day of recreation, the Sabbath being still sacredly observed.

To prepare the way for the work which he designed to accomplish, Satan had led the Jews, before the advent of Christ, to load down the Sabbath with the most rigorous exactions, making its observance a burden. Now, taking advantage of the false light in which he had thus caused it to be regarded, he cast contempt upon its as a Jewish institution. While Christians generally continued to observe the Sunday of a joyous festival, he led them in order to show their hatred of Judaism, to make the Sabbath a fast, a day of sadness and gloom.

In the early part of the fourth century the emperor Constantine issued a decree making Sunday a public festal throughout the Roman Empire. The day of the sun was reverenced by his pagan subjects and was honored by Christians; it was the emperor's policy to unite the conflicting interests of heathenism and Christianity. He was urged to do this by the bishops of the church, who, inspired by ambition and thirst for power, perceived that if the same day was observed by both Christians and heathen, it would promote the nominal acceptance of Christianity by pagans and thus advance the power and glory of the church. But while many God-fearing Christians were gradually led to regard Sunday as possessing a degree of sacredness, they still held the true Sabbath as the holy of the Lord and observed it in obedience to the forth commandment.

The arch deceiver had not completed his work. He was resolved to gather the Christian world under his banner and exercise his power through his vicegerent, the proud pontiff who claimed to be the representative of Christ. Through half-converted pagans, ambitious prelates, and world-loving churchmen he accomplished his purpose. Vast councils were held from time to time, in which the dignitaries of the church were convened from all the world. In nearly every council the Sabbath which God had instituted was pressed down a little lower, while the Bible Sabbath was pronounced a relic of Judaism, and its observers were declared to be accursed.

The great apostate had succeeded in exalting himself "above all that is called God, or that is worshiped." 2 Thessalonians 2:4. He has dared to change the only precept of the divine law that unmistakably points all mankind to the true and living God. In the fourth commandment, God is revealed as the Creator of the heavens and the earth, and is thereby distinguished from all false gods. It was a memorial of the work of creation that the seventh day was sanctified as a rest day for man. It was designed to keep the living God ever before the minds of men as the source of being and the object of reverence and worship. Satan tries to turn men from their allegiance to God, and from rendering obedience to His law; therefore he directs his efforts especially against the commandment which points to God as the Creator.

Protestants now urged that the resurrection of Christ on Sunday made it the Christian Sabbath. but Scripture evidence is lacking. No such honor was given to the day by Christ or His apostles. The observance of Sunday as a Christian institution had its origin in that "mystery of lawlessness" (Thessalonians 2:7, R.V.) which, even in Paul's day, had begun its work. Where and when did the Lord adopt this child of the papacy? What valid reason can be given for a change which the Scriptures do not sanction?

In the sixth century the papacy had become firmly established. Its seat of power was fixed in the imperial city. and the bishop of Rome was declared to be the head over the entire church. Paganism had given a place to the papacy. The dragon had given to the beast "his power, and seat, and great authority." Revelation 13:2 And now began the 1260 years of papal oppression foretold in the prophecies of Daniel and the Revelation. Daniel 7:25; Revelation 13:5-7. Christians were forced to choose either to yield their integrity and accept the papal ceremonies and worship, or to wear away their lives in dungeons, or suffer death by the rack, the fagot, or the headsmen ax. Now were fulfilled the words of Jesus: "Ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethern, and kinsfolk, and friend; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death. And ye shall be hated of all men for My name's sake." Luke 21:16, 17. Persecution opened upon the faithful with greater fury than ever before, and the world became a vast battlefield. For hundreds of years the church of Christ found refuge in seclusion and obscurity. Thus says the prophet: "The woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days." Revelation 12:6.


Here is evidence that the past is very much in the present with this Mark of the Beast;


Pope Francis: God has Instructed Me To Revise the Ten Commandments. RealNewsRightNow.com July 6, 2015

Pope's New Sunday Keeping Appeal: August 12, 2015. Radio address on Wednesday from the Vatican Radio Broadcast.."Sundays Are A Gift From God, "Don't ruin it."

Theme for 2016..Part of the Agenda for America when he comes in September of 2015. "World Day of Peace"

3. For when they shall say, Peace and safety: then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child: and they shall not escape.

4. But ye, brethern, are not in darkness, that that day should overcome you as a thief. Ye are all children of the day; we are not of the night, nor of darkness.

5. Therefore let us not sleep, as do others: but let us watch and be sober. For they that sleep, sleep in the nigh: and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.

6. But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love: and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.
1 Thessalonians 5:3



Ecumenical Move: Pope Francis establishes World Day of Prayer for Creation August 10, 2015

Pope Francis, "Let Jesus Satisfy Your Hunger for God" July 26, 2015.

(Remember the Pope calls himself "Lord God The Pope").


Vatican Ropes in Global Leaders to Fight Climate Change July 26, 2015.

What Pope Francis Might Be planning to Tell the UN in New York. July 23, 2015. Here he met with US mayors at the Vatican.

In the ForeRunner Chronicles 3 years ago on June 2, 2012 Pope Benedict XVI declared to be an enthusiastic audience of 15,000 pilgrims in St Peters Square in the Vatican City that, "Sunday must be a day of rest for every one."

And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond to receive a mark in their right hand or in their foreheads. That no man might buy or sell, saye he that had the mark or the name of the beast or the number of his name. Here is wisdom, Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man: and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. Revelation 13:15-18.

The Funeral of Pope John Paul II covered live by NBC News covered on You Tube. there you will find every world leader paying homage to the dead pope on April 2005.

And I saw, one of this heads as if were wounded to death: and his deadly wound was healed and all the would wondered after the beast. Revelation 13:3.


These are the comments that some of the nay sayers said to me concerning my post on the Antichrist of the pope and America:



Tanach says: Yes, some more of Ellen White propaganda for our consumption. It is getting rather tedious.

Megenta says
" Is this nonsense what we are going to find in your threads?

Angela 53510 says:

It's a basic rant tying America's collapse together with not celebrating the Sabbath...it was insinuated at every turn...as for their souls, Sabbath keeping is just an old law that Jesus did away with when he died on the cross and rose 3 days later...the gospel will be spread in spite of SDA's attempts to teach a false gospel of salvation keeping the law of Moses does not constitute salvation...not picking a bunch of American patriotic buzz words and try and manipulate the masses to follow your legalism.

AceMichael says:

What's my point? The problem I have with you piece is nothing but speculation and obviously plagiarized from some weird tract about Catholicism being the beast. This is OLD NEWS and not funny any more. This Antichrist will come from somewhere in Turkey not Rome. You also give the pope too much credit.

Nauitilus says: Well Heretics will be heretics.


After examining the evidence on the news of today in our history, they and you will see that the Bible, Ellen G. Whites and World News are all aligned..and no it was never funny..Examine for yourselves and don't just listen to them because they think its yesterday's news. God says, what was, is what is and what is yet to come. Ezekiel chapter 2 and 3.
Dribble! :p

The Pope ain't the Antichrist...

The Antichrist is called the King of the North, Rome ain't North of Israel! Dan 11v40

The Pope has no army, on the otherhand Antichrist has a vast army. Dan 8v24, Rev 13v4

And so forth.
 
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robinriley

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Oh snap! Why didnt you put your last paragraph first? I could have saved myself a few minutes to read something worthy of God.
The SDA demon has blinded you

(Robin)
..."Oh snap!" ...

I love it! Haven't heard anyone use that saying in years
.........Great critique, snappy and to the point .............
 

posthuman

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These are the comments that some of the nay sayers said to me concerning my post on the Antichrist of the pope and America:



Tanach says: Yes, some more of Ellen White propaganda for our consumption. It is getting rather tedious.

Megenta says
" Is this nonsense what we are going to find in your threads?

Angela 53510 says:

It's a basic rant tying America's collapse together with not celebrating the Sabbath...it was insinuated at every turn...as for their souls, Sabbath keeping is just an old law that Jesus did away with when he died on the cross and rose 3 days later...the gospel will be spread in spite of SDA's attempts to teach a false gospel of salvation keeping the law of Moses does not constitute salvation...not picking a bunch of American patriotic buzz words and try and manipulate the masses to follow your legalism.

AceMichael says:

What's my point? The problem I have with you piece is nothing but speculation and obviously plagiarized from some weird tract about Catholicism being the beast. This is OLD NEWS and not funny any more. This Antichrist will come from somewhere in Turkey not Rome. You also give the pope too much credit.

Nauitilus says: Well Heretics will be heretics.


After examining the evidence on the news of today in our history, they and you will see that the Bible, Ellen G. Whites and World News are all aligned..and no it was never funny..Examine for yourselves and don't just listen to them because they think its yesterday's news. God says, what was, is what is and what is yet to come. Ezekiel chapter 2 and 3.

i want to thank you for posting some original material.

in the future, would it be trouble for you to cite your sources when you make threads, so we know we are not reading your writing but someone else's?

plagiarism offends more than a few people here; if we can avoid putting stumbling blocks in other's paths, we should, & especially not doing it purposefully.
 
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Why can't there be more positive, upbeat threads in the Bible Discussion Forum?
 
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robinriley

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Is that a tattoo ... Tiger ... on your arm?
 

posthuman

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Why can't there be more positive, upbeat threads in the Bible Discussion Forum?
Because the Bible is a two edged sword and it will CUT YOU.



(too playful?)
 
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Dribble! :p

The Pope ain't the Antichrist...

The Antichrist is called the King of the North, Rome ain't North of Israel! Dan 11v40

The Pope has no army, on the otherhand Antichrist has a vast army. Dan 8v24, Rev 13v4

And so forth.
I do not believe the Pope is the antichrist,for I do not believe the antichrist will be in the public until the time is right,but be sheltered learning all he can about the occult,for he believes he can obtain power through nature,and will try to perfect himself in the occult.

I do not believe he will be in the public trying to start a business,or having A job,or be going up the ranks in politics,or anything else in the public,which the Bible says he will have no desire of women,which means he is not going to be interested in marrying a woman,and starting a family,because he wants to spend his time learning all he can about the occult,and to harness the power of nature,bend nature to his will,and will come out at a certain time.

Also I believe that because of his high arrogance and what he is being taught and what he will do when the day comes,which he believes he will be able to achieve godlike power through nature one day,he probably believes he is above all the pettiness of what the world does on a day to day basis,and what they try to accomplish,for he above them in all that they do.

He will not care about what the public does to try to get ahead,and get prestige from others,in sports,education,business,or anything else they do,for he is above all their little petty accomplishments,and all he wants to do is learn the occult,because what he believes he will attain by only being interested in the occult will transcend any accomplishments or achievements that the public will ever accomplish.

I believe the antichrist will not be in the public,but be sheltered learning the occult until the times come for him to be in public,which he solves peace in the Middle East,between Israel and Palestine,and his popularity will grow until the day comes that he steps in to the Jewish rebuilt temple and claim to be their Messiah,and addresses the world that he has obtained power from nature,which the false prophet will do wonders to convince the world that the beast obtained power through nature,and shared that power with the false prophet,but the Bible says they are lying wonders.
 
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Because the Bible is a two edged sword and it will CUT YOU.



(too playful?)
Never too playful. And you're right. The Sword is in constant motion.
 
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Galahad

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Laughing. Laughing. Laughing. Laughing. Oh that is funny. It is. Can't quit laughing. Hilarious. You got to read the posts. Then look at that endless roll.

Is there anyone else who finds it funny? Sometimes I think I'm the only one laughing when I see or read some of the more lighthearted responses.

Laugh. Look at it. IT'S FUNNY.

Bunch of stiffs.
:eek:
 
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Galahad

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Laughing. Laughing. Laughing. Laughing. Oh that is funny. It is. Can't quit laughing. Hilarious. You got to read the posts. Then look at that endless roll.

Is there anyone else who finds it funny? Sometimes I think I'm the only one laughing when I see or read some of the more lighthearted responses.

Laugh. Look at it. IT'S FUNNY.

Bunch of stiffs.
:eek:
Just too funny to watch.
 
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robinriley

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#18
Tigger is on my back. On my left arm I have:

Jesus
King of Kings
Lord of Lords
(Robin)
I like your Tigger tattoo and Paul our apostle, too!
 
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robinriley

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#19
Because the Bible is a two edged sword and it will CUT YOU.

(too playful?)
(Robin)
I like to play with my food ... the all caps are to show the reader that these are OT quotes (Isaiah 11:5; 59:17; 52:7; 59:17; 49:2; Hos 6:5; there is, of course, also reference to 1Thes 5:8]...The asterisks indicate that there are text variations between the Alexandrian (Minor) and Byzantine (Major) source texts.

The curious verse of the lot is 6:17, because my translation of this is so very different from all the others; that is I find the Greek to read that it is the spirit, not the sword, which is an expression of God ... the sword we receive, comes from the spirt, which is an expression of God.


[SUP]6:17*[/SUP] and, TO THE ABOUT-HEAD [HELMET] OF THE SAVING [SPIRIT],also the sword of the spirit to receive, which a [spirit] it be, an expression of God.



[SUP]6:14[/SUP] Therefore be you standing, TO THE LOIN OF YOU HAVING ABOUT-GIRDED IN TRUTH; and, TO THE CUIRASS OF THE RIGHTEOUSNESS HAVING SLIPPED-IN; [SUP]6:15[/SUP] and, TO THE FEET HAVING UNDER-BOUND IN A READINESS OF THE EVANGEL OF THE PEACE; [SUP]6:16*[/SUP] for’ the large-shield of the trust having up-taken unto all [things], in which all the arrows of the wicked [one], the [arrows] having had been en-fired, you will empower to quench; [SUP]6:17*[/SUP] and, TO THE ABOUT-HEAD [HELMET] OF THE SAVING [SPIRIT], also the sword of the spirit to receive, which a [spirit] it be, an expression of God.


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6:17* Καὶ τὴν περικεφαλαίαν τοῦ σωτηρίου δέξασθαι, καὶ τὴν μάχαιραν τοῦ πνεύματος, ὅ ἐστιν ῥῆμα θεοῦ·

kai tEn perikephalaian tou sOtEriou dexasthai kai tEn machairan tou pneumatos ho estin rhEma theou

and, TO THE ABOUT-HEAD [HELMET] OF THE SAVING [SPIRIT], also the sword of the spirit to receive, which a [spirit] it be, an expression of God.
and {2532 CONJ} to the [one] {3588 T-ASF} to an about-head [helmet] {4030 N-ASF} of the [thing] {3588 T-GSN} of a saving [thing] {4992 A-GSN} to receive {1209 V-ADN} and/ also {2532 CONJ} to the [one] {3588 T-ASF} to a sword {3162 N-ASF} of the [thing] {3588 T-GSN} of a spirit {4151 N-GSN} which a [thing] {3739 R-NSN} it be {1510 V-PAI-3S} an expression {4487 N-NSN} of God {2316 N-GSM}
 
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#20
Yes, the pope is probably not the AntiChrist / Son of Perdition, but the very values being spouted by the new pope line up with a worldwide governance that will be present when the AntiChrist comes on the scene.

However, the RCC does fit very nicely in with the Harlot on the Beast (from the Sea), signifying a church proclaiming God but having the practices of Babylon.