The way some women tend to see evangelizing

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Calmador

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mACbV4xweHE

First of all, I haven't seen the show much at all. However, this video shows what I think.

There are women in the church... and men too (more so women from my experience) who want to avoid the idea of God's judgment on sin or hell. When you tell people about the gospel.... God's judgment is unavoidable. God's judgement is either implied or you may have to explain it when you tell people that Jesus loved you enough to die on the cross. Jesus dying on the cross for people... implies he died for a reason. That reason is because he had to take people's punish because of their sin.

Yet, often there's this sensitive, romantic, love only, no judgment gospel that some women and men seem to think is the way to go.

I believe it's because such people want to be on the good side and make everyone happy instead of telling them God's word in full.

I also think this is very dangerous as it doesn't give the full word of God and may make a false religion if God's judgment on sin is never talked about.

Thoughts?

Again... I haven't seen the show much at all. However, this video shows what I think.
 
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Seems pretty good, I would have to watch awhile and see.

The lady in video, bless her heart, she knows what she needs to do, and she just seems like she doesn't know how to have that difficult conversation with someone unsaved, I assume she doesn't know it takes all kinds of people with different tactics and personalities and styles to speak to someone about their soul



 
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video wouldn't load past a minute for me... I want to watch it tho.:(
 
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So in the Video, The Women wants people to accept the Gospel without actually telling/Teaching them what it truly is?
I honestly dont think it has much to do with gender, i think it has more to do with Whose teaching them, who are they fellowship with, and how much of the bible they actually Read. Women are supposed to be led spiritually by their fathers until they marry, then the husband is to lead them spiritually. So the Father, or Husband or Both are at blame here too for not leading her.
What they are trying to do with this God is ONLY Love, No Hate, No Judgement, No Justice is trying to lure in the non-believers into accepting a watered down version of Christianity, and they never truly understand what it really is, So they constantly reject it. You must give it to them Completely and if they leave, at least you know where they stand. They Must repent, and that requires people to do something many dont want to do.
 
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Myles... You are 17??? Go lil'brother!!!
 
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You have a very practiced, experienced and skillfully polished professional radio talking head here, speaking to an honest woman just trying to express her heart. I found it especially interesting that he specifically told her we are commanded to go and preach that people are going to Hell.

We actually weren't.

We are commanded to "make disciples" and "to teach, to them, what Jesus taught." 90% of what Jesus taught was The Kingdom and love for others.

I think there might be some truth in what the Bible said... "We love Him because He first loved us"... not because He threatened us, and scared us into hoping to purchase some fire insurance. As she said, that comes, but it should not be the main thrust of what they remember about Jesus from our efforts.
 
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Calmador said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mACbV4xweHE

First of all, I haven't seen the show much at all. However, this video shows what I think.

There are women in the church... and men too (more so women from my experience) who want to avoid the idea of God's judgment on sin or hell. When you tell people about the gospel.... God's judgment is unavoidable. God's judgement is either implied or you may have to explain it when you tell people that Jesus loved you enough to die on the cross. Jesus dying on the cross for people... implies he died for a reason. That reason is because he had to take people's punish because of their sin.

Yet, often there's this sensitive, romantic, love only, no judgment gospel that some women and men seem to think is the way to go.

I believe it's because such people want to be on the good side and make everyone happy instead of telling them God's word in full.

I also think this is very dangerous as it doesn't give the full word of God and may make a false religion if God's judgment on sin is never talked about.

Thoughts?

Again... I haven't seen the show much at all. However, this video shows what I think.
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Thoughts? You haven't seem many women witness, have you?
 
Angela53510

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The OP is completely misogynistic! I know of 2 women friends of mine who are gifted as evangelists! One witnesses to everyone she meets. They get the whole gospel, including sin and the resulting judgment. She led 6 people to the Lord a few weeks ago in one week. She is a housewife, and these are people she gets to know standing in line at the grocery store. Those 6 just got baptized, and are in a Bible study she teaches. And English is her second language! I've never seen a man do that!

The gospel knows no gender. God is the giver of the gift of evangelism, and it doesn't matter if the person is male or female. As for the video, it won't download to my phone. But I am sure just as many men do the soft sell as women! If they witness at all!
 
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He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. (Joh 3:18)

Man's destination is already hell, the urgency of the Gospel is to make clear the rescue through Jesus Christ.
My experience is that women and the feminization of the Church as a whole lends to going soft on the message.
 
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I've seen plenty of women here that seem to have no difficulty telling others that they are going to hell, lol.
 
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crossnote said:
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. (Joh 3:18)

Man's destination is already hell, the urgency of the Gospel is to make clear the rescue through Jesus Christ.
My experience is that women and the feminization of the Church as a whole lends to going soft on the message.
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Ok, ok 'ladies', I'll reword (retool) myself :) .
Whenever I get flack for being too 'hard', 'insensitive', 'unfeeling' etc., it more often than not comes from the female side of the aisle.
(Who knows, maybe many men feel the same but are too timid to say so :p )
 
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i'm not offended in the least.
(honestly, not :) )

but i do believe the Law must be involved in evangelism.
people need to know what they're being saved from to grasp the huge implications of being saved at all.
how can anyone repent if they don't hear 'all have sinned and fall short' ?

many people don't want to hear they're sinners, but those in whom the Holy Spirit is working will.
the Gospel is kinda 'bad news, Great News'. :)

 
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psalm6819 said:
I've seen plenty of women here that seem to have no difficulty telling others that they are going to hell, lol.
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Lol. Tigger's coffee is now all over the computer screen! ;)
 
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crossnote said:
Ok, ok 'ladies', I'll reword (retool) myself :) .
Whenever I get flack for being too 'hard', 'insensitive', 'unfeeling' etc., it more often than not comes from the female side of the aisle.
(Who knows, maybe many men feel the same but are too timid to say so :p )
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Maybe that's my problem. I'm too sensitive.

The gospel is an offense to those who are lost. Jesus said He did not come to bring peace but a sword. Mt 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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crossnote said:
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. (Joh 3:18)

Man's destination is already hell, the urgency of the Gospel is to make clear the rescue through Jesus Christ.
My experience is that women and the feminization of the Church as a whole lends to going soft on the message.
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You been hanging around the wrong women/churches............most likely the ones you are familiar with are the ones who were raised believing that they were subservient to men and had to keep silence in church. Couple of large church denominations/movements do this to women.

The ones I know will tell you in a New York minute what the wages of sin are, and don't give a hoot it if hurts your feelings or not............ :)
 
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Angela53510 said:
The OP is completely misogynistic! I know of 2 women friends of mine who are gifted as evangelists! One witnesses to everyone she meets. They get the whole gospel, including sin and the resulting judgment. She led 6 people to the Lord a few weeks ago in one week. She is a housewife, and these are people she gets to know standing in line at the grocery store. Those 6 just got baptized, and are in a Bible study she teaches. And English is her second language! I've never seen a man do that!

The gospel knows no gender. God is the giver of the gift of evangelism, and it doesn't matter if the person is male or female. As for the video, it won't download to my phone. But I am sure just as many men do the soft sell as women! If they witness at all!
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That's a false witness. Check out Calmador's recent posts. He's not completely nor even partially misogynistic. He's amazingly biblical for one so young actually.

Just because he doesn't get all that women are yet doesn't mean he hates them or thinks less of them. He hasn't seen many women witness yet because... well? Look at his age. Say he's been a believer for half his life. How often did you see anyone witness in all of 14 years? For that matter, how well did you understand men at the ripe old age of 28? lol

In truth, he's actually agreeing with you, so don't go all judgmental on a person simply because of one post.
 
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crossnote said:
Ok, ok 'ladies', I'll reword (retool) myself :) .
Whenever I get flack for being too 'hard', 'insensitive', 'unfeeling' etc., it more often than not comes from the female side of the aisle.
(Who knows, maybe many men feel the same but are too timid to say so :p )
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Just to give you some perspective, as a woman? 50/50 on who is telling me I'm too hard, insensitive, and unfeeling.

I think that is an American thing -- men rarely tell a brother how tough he's being. They have far less problems telling a woman how hard she's being. And women? Well, we just tell how everybody's being -- good or bad. lol
 
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psychomom said:
i'm not offended in the least.
(honestly, not :) )

but i do believe the Law must be involved in evangelism.
people need to know what they're being saved from to grasp the huge implications of being saved at all.
how can anyone repent if they don't hear 'all have sinned and fall short' ?

many people don't want to hear they're sinners, but those in whom the Holy Spirit is working will.
the Gospel is kinda 'bad news, Great News'. :)
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Mom never had trouble getting me to grasp implications. The implication was one of two things -- I hurt her. I hurt the family name.

Hell isn't the only implication and I am opposed to holding heaven as the carrot and hell as the stick. I think that leads to too many thinking life is a waiting game, and heaven is the eternal vacation paradise to do whatever we want.
 
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crossnote said:
Ok, ok 'ladies', I'll reword (retool) myself :) .
Whenever I get flack for being too 'hard', 'insensitive', 'unfeeling' etc., it more often than not comes from the female side of the aisle.
(Who knows, maybe many men feel the same but are too timid to say so :p )
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Men are taught not to say what they are feeling. They're just as sensitive,they just dont say anything about it.
 
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p_rehbein said:
You been hanging around the wrong women/churches............most likely the ones you are familiar with are the ones who were raised believing that they were subservient to men and had to keep silence in church. Couple of large church denominations/movements do this to women.

The ones I know will tell you in a New York minute what the wages of sin are, and don't give a hoot it if hurts your feelings or not............ :)
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I corrected myself 9 hours before you replied (post #11) , but at least you got your say so, using my boo boo :)
 
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