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Beliver

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What is marrige in a Christians eyes what are the values
 

wattie

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What is marrige in a Christians eyes what are the values
Man is the leader of the family the 'head'. The woman follows his lead. Both under submission to Jesus. Man is to love the wife as Jesus loves His churches. Woman is to love the husband

This love is the spiritual gift of the Holy Spirit so is not conditional, altho there is also the romantic love that builds closeness

The parents are charged with teaching the kids in the right Biblical way. Teach them how to be saved and follow Jesus. Not sure about the role of aunties and uncles and grandparents except i guess theywill support the parents and help relieve the load
 

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What is marrige in a Christians eyes what are the values
Marriage is 100% voluntary servitude from both husband and wife towards each other.
 
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pottersclay

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The second best I do I Ever said...The first on was do you believe Jesus died for you sins.
 
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Kaycie

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I always had a high respect for marriage, even as a young child. But when I studied for myself, marriage took on a whole new meaning for me. It is so Godly. The seriousness of it, the involved details of how it relates to the relationship between God and His church, how both are faithful even to the point of death. I just got a much, much deeper understanding of it. These immature people who view marriage like a boyfriend and girlfriend relationship, where you can just break up for whatever reason, do not understand marriage and are unworthy of it.
 
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atwhatcost

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What is marriage in a Christians eyes what are the values
Husband and wife should have the same relationship that Jesus and his (invisible) church have.
 
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psychomom

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Marriage is 100% voluntary servitude from both husband and wife towards each other.
yep :)

and it ain't the army.... marriage is the toughest job you'll ever love. :p
 
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oldthennew

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for us individually, the stronger our relationship has become, we feel this is a result
of each of us growing into a stronger relationship with our Father in heaven.
our primary goals are rooted in the will of God - our unity and love is the reflection...

AMOS 3:3.
Can two walk together, except they be agreed?
 
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pottersclay

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32yrs we got so far. We are the first generation on both sides to last this long without divorce.
I keep telling anyone that ask it's the Lord in our marriage he has joined us.

But I also told the wife shes got another 50 yrs with me and then I'm going to kick her to the curb, she told me to make it 40 because she's getting tired of me too. Lol
It's not a contract it's a commitment, my best friend, my bride, my other half, sure am going to miss her in 40 yrs.
 
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What is marrige in a Christians eyes what are the values
Marriage, among other things, means that you will never have a sexual relationship with anyone, except the person you are married to, till death do you part.
 

wattie

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Husband and wife should have the same relationship that Jesus and his (invisible) church have.
Invisible?

Church at Corinth -- visible

Church at Phillipi-- visible

Church at Antioch--- visible

Church at Ephesus-- visible

Churches in Galatia-- visible

Churches in Revelation-- figurative for visible churches

etc..

NOT buildings

But--

Ecclessia- New Testament local assembly of called out saved, baptised believers covenanted together to carry out the great commission and commandment.

That is one of God's churches.. it IS 'the church'. ... in the sense of 'the church' of such and such a place.

There is a universal entity.. but it is not 'the invisible church'. Try and find a 'universal, invisible church' in scripture.. I challenge you!

The universal entities are the Kingdom and Family of God.

Family of God inside the Kingdom.. God's churches inside the Family.

The body of Christ is the church.. YES! And the 'church' is the local church of such and such a place! Not the building.. but the saved, baptised, covenanted together assembly of christians.

No one seems to understand this!

When you speak of the 'dog' -- it isn't a 'universal dog'
When you speak of the 'bar' -- it isn't a 'universal bar'
When you speak of the 'horse' -- it isn't a 'universal horse'

So .. neither is 'the church' like this. It is figurative for all of God's churches plural!

So Christ died for individual's AND also the local church assembly.

Man is to love his wife and Christ loved the church. Church as in local assembly of such and such a place.. or the institution of the church.. representing all churches.

'There is one body...' YES! One body at Ephesus.. one body at Corinth.. one body at Antioch.. etc..

(Not to mention the fact that 'there is' is an insertion and not in the original Greek)

Church-- local church.. no big C church.. big C church is a man made institution and no where to be seen in scripture.. unless you are talking about..

The Kingdom of God or the Family.. which neither of which are biblically.. the church.
 
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YuriBrown1234567

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1 Corinthians 7:1-16
 
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pottersclay

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Here are 4 secrets to a lasting marriage

1 agree to disagree
2 as soon as you can put your wife right in her place.........by your side
3 love her whether she's right or wrong
4 put the seat down...........not covered in Ephesians 5
 
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atwhatcost

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Invisible?

Church at Corinth -- visible

Church at Phillipi-- visible

Church at Antioch--- visible

Church at Ephesus-- visible

Churches in Galatia-- visible

Churches in Revelation-- figurative for visible churches

etc..

NOT buildings

But--

Ecclessia- New Testament local assembly of called out saved, baptised believers covenanted together to carry out the great commission and commandment.

That is one of God's churches.. it IS 'the church'. ... in the sense of 'the church' of such and such a place.

There is a universal entity.. but it is not 'the invisible church'. Try and find a 'universal, invisible church' in scripture.. I challenge you!

The universal entities are the Kingdom and Family of God.

Family of God inside the Kingdom.. God's churches inside the Family.

The body of Christ is the church.. YES! And the 'church' is the local church of such and such a place! Not the building.. but the saved, baptised, covenanted together assembly of christians.

No one seems to understand this!

When you speak of the 'dog' -- it isn't a 'universal dog'
When you speak of the 'bar' -- it isn't a 'universal bar'
When you speak of the 'horse' -- it isn't a 'universal horse'

So .. neither is 'the church' like this. It is figurative for all of God's churches plural!

So Christ died for individual's AND also the local church assembly.

Man is to love his wife and Christ loved the church. Church as in local assembly of such and such a place.. or the institution of the church.. representing all churches.

'There is one body...' YES! One body at Ephesus.. one body at Corinth.. one body at Antioch.. etc..

(Not to mention the fact that 'there is' is an insertion and not in the original Greek)

Church-- local church.. no big C church.. big C church is a man made institution and no where to be seen in scripture.. unless you are talking about..

The Kingdom of God or the Family.. which neither of which are biblically.. the church.
Visible church, buildings with people flocking in on Saturday nights or Sunday mornings that don't serve alcohol. (Not bars. lol)

Invisible church -- those who are being sanctified in Christ.

The visible churches you listed weren't all filled with those kinds of people. Some of those people were. Some weren't. That hasn't changed.
 
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VioletReigns

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[video=youtube;XF3SKZRNTuw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XF3SKZRNTuw[/video]
 
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psychomom

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[video=youtube;XF3SKZRNTuw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XF3SKZRNTuw[/video]
lol Violet, that's what i've been thinking about since i saw the title of the thread :D

'mawwiage'... tee hee :cool:
 

wattie

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Visible church, buildings with people flocking in on Saturday nights or Sunday mornings that don't serve alcohol. (Not bars. lol)

Invisible church -- those who are being sanctified in Christ.

The visible churches you listed weren't all filled with those kinds of people. Some of those people were. Some weren't. That hasn't changed.
So.. I will ask again.. where in scripture is an invisible church of who are being sanctified in Christ?

I don't see it anywhere.

Thayer wrote along the lines that if you look at all the Greek Lexicons and all the references of church in the New Testament.. not one time is referring to an 'invisible, universal... or visible, universal church'.
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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In the Bible, we find what human marriage is to creator God. The general framework into which the Bible places marriage is its institution by God. In the creation story it is God himself who decides that “it is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a helper fit for him” (Gen 2:18 RSV). It is God who brings Eve to Adam after creating her (Gen 2:22), in effect pronouncing the first marriage union in history. In the NT, too, husband and wife are said to be “joined together” by God (Mt 19:6; Mk 10:9) (note that Jesus sanctioned marriage by his attendance at the marriage of Cana in Galilee).

The motif of marriage is as a life-long bond between a man and a woman. Ideals such as companionship, romance and sex, domestic issues, etc... are addressed. The bible presents the moral nuclear family headed by one man and one woman as a God ordained covenantal primal human bond of a healthy society and the foundation of a moral society.

However, in the increasingly immoral and apostate U.S., marriage sharply declined among lower income tax brackets first (noting that the decline of the moral nuclear family went into free-fall among African-Americans) with new data demonstrating that marriage is now in free-fall among the middle classes too.

According to new data analysis by the Marriage Foundation, which draws on data from the Family Resources Survey and the General Household Survey, middle class marriages in 1994 comprised 84% of middle-income families with young children but by 2012 had fallen to only 59% and continues to decline. This represents a drop of 25% in the space of 18 years.

Lower Income Class Report: http://www.marriagefoundation.org.u...) The Marriage Gap report - v1 - 01.08.15.pdf

Middle Class Report: http://www.marriagefoundation.org.u...away from marriage report - v1 - 01.08.15.pdf
 
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MissyTwoShoes

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Marriage is a commitment of your whole heart..all of you..until death do you part. Because you respect that person and "agape" love them..along with the physical attraction as well. It means giving all of you to that one person. Much like when we give our life to Christ when we accept His gift of salvation.. We wouldn't just back out of that when we're not happy with what's going on with us, right? You don't marry someone for them to make you happy..you marry them to spend your life loving them and making them happy. And it should be mutual..they need to love you back the same. Love is a verb, an action..not just a feeling. Then marriage is what it was meant to be, two people giving to each other and taking care of the other first before themselves.