What was the real sin in the Garden of Eden?

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RachelBibleStudent

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the sin was disobeying a direct command of God...though if you think about it that is what -all- sin really is...God says not to do something either through his word or through our conscience and we do it anyway...

in a way you could say that a lack of faith was also behind their sin...they trusted the serpent's lies and false promises more than they trusted God evidently...
 
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Well, if I remember correctly, they ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. I try to understand what this means. Does it mean that they became judgmental?
 
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resurrection33 said:
Well, if I remember correctly, they ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. I try to understand what this means. Does it mean that they became judgmental?
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being judgmental sure seems to go hand-in-hand with having a little knowledge.
sometimes it is abated when one has a lot though! or at least, knowledge doesn't increase so quickly when one is proud, as it does when one is humble, but the opposite is true for thinking to judge.
 
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i was going to say that before one sins by being disobedient with their hands, don't they sin in their hearts? something produces disobedience. but it looks like others made this point already, using some different words :)

the two greatest commands are to love the Lord, and to love others. idolatry breaks the first, and pride breaks the second. and isn't pride idolatry of the self?
in Eve & Adam, both of these were broken, and this all traces back to & mirrors Satan's sin - pride; his own idolatry.
 
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Adam willing took of the sin that plunged all men into death, and he had to die. Eve was fooled by the devil. Mans will is so deceptive and sinful. Trust only in the LORD.
 
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Josefnospam said:
Adam willing took of the sin that plunged all men into death, and he had to die. Eve was fooled by the devil. Mans will is so deceptive and sinful. Trust only in the LORD.
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Adam was the beginning creation, the Alpha. Eve is the ending created by Adam, the Omega. Adam is the person. Eve was the senses. Eve desired the natural and gave to Adam and because of that desire, Adam (Man) is cast from Paradise and confined to the natural.
 
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Josefnospam said:
Adam willing took of the sin that plunged all men into death, and he had to die. Eve was fooled by the devil. Mans will is so deceptive and sinful. Trust only in the LORD.
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This is true. Just the wording remind me and I feel it also important to remember that God still had mercy on Adam and on all mankind. God still sent Jesus, the man through which all may live. Praise the Lord.
 
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Originally Posted by Josefnospam


Adam willing took of the sin that plunged all men into death, and he had to die. Eve was fooled by the devil. Mans will is so deceptive and sinful. Trust only in the LORD.
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And yes, it was a willful acceptance. But, the trust and faith must be in the Sovereign LORD.
 
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Is that in the Bible though? Or just a speculation?
It is an educated guess.
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You can't know that God's "plan" was thwarted, or even "distracted", because that is not how the Bible words it.
For all we know, God's original Plan already incorporated the human response of disobedience.
This is why Christ was PREDESTINED to come "before the foundations of the world".
Christ was not an after-thought. He was not just a response to the sin of the Garden.
He was the Plan from before the Beginning.[/QUOTEdI think the sin that started it was that man did not rest in the Father love and promises. Labour to enter into rest. The same followed the Hebrews through the wilderness, they would not trust God as their provider. Even though their shoe didn't wear out , they had meat from above, manna, clothes didn't grow old,etc. They would not rest in God's Word to them. As is today. God did have a contiguity. And probably new all along the working out of the Gospel to the whole world. Beleive this is the work of God.
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gkroo said:
Adam was the beginning creation, the Alpha. Eve is the ending created by Adam, the Omega. Adam is the person. Eve was the senses. Eve desired the natural and gave to Adam and because of that desire, Adam (Man) is cast from Paradise and confined to the natural.
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You're still talking a lot of crap. Read the Bible plainly and read it figuratively where context decides it. But your interpretations are decidedly Gnostic. No wonder you're confused with the basics.

It's quite simple, really. Adam was the first man ever; Eve was the first woman ever. God created Adam from the earth; God created Eve from Adam's rib. Adam was a real person; Eve was a real person. Eve listened to the serpent and Adam didn't stop her. They were kicked from the garden and the whole of Creation was plunged into sin.
 
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Adam and eve where married by God, created for each other. Their father/God gave them specific order in which he elaborated, do not approach or eat of the fruit produced by the tree. She interacted with satan/serpent and he seduced her heart, this brought infidelity/idolatry. The result satan the ancient serpent humiliated them in the presence of God. Immorality.
 
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