Pieces of God are dying Now. Please pray.

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Channa

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[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]He guys[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]I thought I'd share this with you. You all know about the refugees in the Mediterranean Sea? Thousands are trying to come to Europe every day. Every day boats sink and refugees die because they choke. Families are left behind and torn apart.[/FONT]



[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]This is nothing new to you I guess. This is the situation for months now, sadly.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Yesterday I read a blog about it. It learned me things and opened my eyes. I hope it inspires you all, too. [/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]When God created us, He put a piece of Himself in us. In all of us, banker, mom or refugee. When all those refugees die, pieces of God are dying. Pieces of God lay on the shores of Europe. Pieces of God are choking now in cars. [/FONT]



[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]At the same time you are reading this thread with a cup of tea in your warm house. Most of us have a family, we have a laptop with wifi (really important :p), people we love around us and many more. We are so blessed! And we may know that and we may thank God for that! He gave all this to us! :)[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Then. What are we doing with all those wonderful gifts? I ask you all to use your gifts wisely. To share them. To let the Love of Jesus shine. How can we shine in this situation? Simply through praying for our brothers and sisters. People who have dreams for a better future in the cold north, but are in need Now, in the endless Mediterranean sea. [/FONT]



[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Thanks for your time,[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]God bless you all, I hope you'll have a great day [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Love, Channa. [/FONT]



 
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Ugly

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Please reference the scriptural backup that a piece of God dies whenever a person dies. God is not in all people. He breathed life into Adam, which was created from dust. I know of no scripture speaking that God is within all of mankind. In fact sin separates us from God.

And people die all over the world, all the time. And people are being born at a rate faster than we are dying.

Other than sitting online questioning others, what are you doing with your gifts?

I don't know anything about this situation, but if these people are not Christians then they are not my brothers. The idea that we are all God's children is a secular concept, not scriptural.

Sorry, i get your point, but i simply disagree with so much of what you said to make it, or can't help but feel to question things in it. There is a lot of suffering going on in the world. And often not by people who chose to put themselves in harms way, or didn't recognize the danger. There are countless ways in which people need prayers. And we all have different areas that affect us the most.
It is good to see someone your age having an awareness and concern for the people around them and around the world. Hopefully this passion stays with you as you grow older.
 
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thebesttrees

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He guys

I thought I'd share this with you. You all know about the refugees in the Mediterranean Sea? Thousands are trying to come to Europe every day. Every day boats sink and refugees die because they choke. Families are left behind and torn apart.



This is nothing new to you I guess. This is the situation for months now, sadly.
Yesterday I read a blog about it. It learned me things and opened my eyes. I hope it inspires you all, too.


When God created us, He put a piece of Himself in us. In all of us, banker, mom or refugee. When all those refugees die, pieces of God are dying. Pieces of God lay on the shores of Europe. Pieces of God are choking now in cars.



At the same time you are reading this thread with a cup of tea in your warm house. Most of us have a family, we have a laptop with wifi (really important :p), people we love around us and many more. We are so blessed! And we may know that and we may thank God for that! He gave all this to us! :)


Then. What are we doing with all those wonderful gifts? I ask you all to use your gifts wisely. To share them. To let the Love of Jesus shine. How can we shine in this situation? Simply through praying for our brothers and sisters. People who have dreams for a better future in the cold north, but are in need Now, in the endless Mediterranean sea.



Thanks for your time,
God bless you all, I hope you'll have a great day

Love, Channa.



God bless you for your wonderful thoughts. We are all God's children whether some have come to recognize Him or not. Our failure to recognize Him does not limit Him in any way to care for His creation. I for my part pray for them every day.

There is no remover of difficulties except God. Praised be God! We are all His creation and we all abide by His blessed will.

May God bless you for your kind heart and attentive spirit.
 

Channa

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He Ugly :)

Job 33:4 “The Spirit of God has made me; the breath of the Almighty gives me life."
Ephesians 4:6 "..one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all."
God is in all and everything. Without the Spirit of God we'll be dead, right?

Of course you have a point with that there are people born faster than that people are dying. But does that mean that we shouldn't care about our neighbours? God asks us to care for our neighbours and to love our enemies, right? Doesn't that mean that we should care about all the people we can help. We have to shine!

Of course you can ask yourself, why would you questioning this online? Well, I do this because I want people to know how horrible this situation is. I want attention for the situation, so we can pray all for them. They are in desperate need of prayers!

Have a great day,
Channa :)




Please reference the scriptural backup that a piece of God dies whenever a person dies. God is not in all people. He breathed life into Adam, which was created from dust. I know of no scripture speaking that God is within all of mankind. In fact sin separates us from God.

And people die all over the world, all the time. And people are being born at a rate faster than we are dying.

Other than sitting online questioning others, what are you doing with your gifts?

I don't know anything about this situation, but if these people are not Christians then they are not my brothers. The idea that we are all God's children is a secular concept, not scriptural.

Sorry, i get your point, but i simply disagree with so much of what you said to make it, or can't help but feel to question things in it. There is a lot of suffering going on in the world. And often not by people who chose to put themselves in harms way, or didn't recognize the danger. There are countless ways in which people need prayers. And we all have different areas that affect us the most.
It is good to see someone your age having an awareness and concern for the people around them and around the world. Hopefully this passion stays with you as you grow older.
 

crossnote

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If one ONLY wants to pray for Christians (also unsupported by Scripture), then at least pray for the Christian men, women and children being enslaved, butchered, crucified and burned by ISIS in the M.E. and that the gospel will have deep inroads into the people's hearts.
 
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We become God’s children when we are saved because we are adopted into God’s family through our relationship with Jesus Christ (Galatians 4:5-6; Ephesians 1:5).
 

valiant

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He guys

I thought I'd share this with you. You all know about the refugees in the Mediterranean Sea? Thousands are trying to come to Europe every day. Every day boats sink and refugees die because they choke. Families are left behind and torn apart.



This is nothing new to you I guess. This is the situation for months now, sadly.
Yesterday I read a blog about it. It learned me things and opened my eyes. I hope it inspires you all, too.


When God created us, He put a piece of Himself in us. In all of us, banker, mom or refugee. When all those refugees die, pieces of God are dying. Pieces of God lay on the shores of Europe. Pieces of God are choking now in cars.



At the same time you are reading this thread with a cup of tea in your warm house. Most of us have a family, we have a laptop with wifi (really important :p), people we love around us and many more. We are so blessed! And we may know that and we may thank God for that! He gave all this to us! :)


Then. What are we doing with all those wonderful gifts? I ask you all to use your gifts wisely. To share them. To let the Love of Jesus shine. How can we shine in this situation? Simply through praying for our brothers and sisters. People who have dreams for a better future in the cold north, but are in need Now, in the endless Mediterranean sea.



Thanks for your time,
God bless you all, I hope you'll have a great day

Love, Channa.



Whilst my heart goes out to all who suffer, pieces of God ARE not DYING. God's creation is separate from Himself, and pieces of God CANNOT die. Peoples have died throughout the centuries in their millions, but no part of God has died.

The situation in the world is sad, caused by Muslim extremism, but it is an unanswerable problem. People are choosing to risk their lives for what they see as freedom, but it will be a freedom which will bring great problems to others. Europe could not cope with the masses of migrants wanting to enter without destroying itself. Perhaps the US could step in?.
 
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atwhatcost

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He Ugly :)

Job 33:4 “The Spirit of God has made me; the breath of the Almighty gives me life."
Ephesians 4:6 "..one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all."
God is in all and everything. Without the Spirit of God we'll be dead, right?

Of course you have a point with that there are people born faster than that people are dying. But does that mean that we shouldn't care about our neighbours? God asks us to care for our neighbours and to love our enemies, right? Doesn't that mean that we should care about all the people we can help. We have to shine!

Of course you can ask yourself, why would you questioning this online? Well, I do this because I want people to know how horrible this situation is. I want attention for the situation, so we can pray all for them. They are in desperate need of prayers!

Have a great day,
Channa :)
No, Ugly is saying what you're talking about is called pantheism. It's a belief that god is everything, thus able to die and be reborn. Wrong god. God doesn't fall to pieces over anything, even people's death. He is complete. That's what Ugly was getting at.

Better yet, real God cares. Pantheistic god is a no show.

This stuff is important to get straight. I get you were trying to be compelling for your request, but don't over do on the compelling too much or the wrong god shows up, which makes prayer useless. (Kind of like asking your car mechanic to fix your high blood pressure, except there is no mechanic even, since there is no pantheistic entity either.)

And, honestly? I'm from the States, so didn't know refugees try to cross the Mediterranean. We do have people over here who try to get out of Cuba by boats, and that is much like your photos, except if there's a rescue by authorities those folks are going back to Cuba. Or if folks cross the Rio Grande River and get caught, they go back to Mexico. Then again, the people that cross aren't always crossing for freedom. Some are crossing to bring drugs or slaves into my country. I don't know who is crossing the Mediterranean or why.

I'd like to know, and you have the passion to educate. So, would you mind teaching me? I really don't pray for people I don't know for problems I don't understand, so maybe if you give some more of what you know, we can pray together for reasons I don't know yet.

But I do hope you understand now why it's not good to say God dies piece by piece. We do want to serve the only God, instead of promote a false one. And, I get where you might not have caught the distinction. I didn't respond at first because I didn't want to seem like I was attacking you, and, honestly, I didn't know enough of the situation to respond well before, so Ugly (who isn't ugly), voiced my only concern at that time.
 
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When God created us, He put a piece of Himself in us. In all of us, banker, mom or refugee. When all those refugees die, pieces of God are dying. Pieces of God lay on the shores of Europe. Pieces of God are choking now in cars...
No offense, but that's gnostic heresy, not what christians believe to be true. Refugees aren't 'pieces of God,' God is God, and people are not. You could have quoted Matthew 25: 31-46 instead, where Jesus says: 'Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’ (Matthew 25:40/NIV). Question remains to what extent these refugees, mainly muslims, can be regarded as 'brothers and sisters in Christ.'
 
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shame on you all.... a simple prayer request....gone wrong....omg...have we become that righteousness.
Something is wrong with this picture....people are hurting....families torn apart,....and someone did not ask proper for prayer? Someone actually knocked on your door for bread and you gave them a stone. Not even be well be fed.

Yeah give them a bible study that will help.
 
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atwhatcost

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shame on you all.... a simple prayer request....gone wrong....omg...have we become that righteousness.
Something is wrong with this picture....people are hurting....families torn apart,....and someone did not ask proper for prayer? Someone actually knocked on your door for bread and you gave them a stone. Not even be well be fed.

Yeah give them a bible study that will help.
Actually, I just clarified the problem then asked who came to my door. I honestly didn't know who is crossing the Med dangerously, so asked for clarification. That's a really long trip to make in unsafe boats, isn't it? Kind of makes a trip between Cuba and Florida look easy. So I honestly don't know who is doing it or why. If I had any kind of inkling I could google it. I'm American-dumb. I often don't know what's happening elsewhere.
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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we are each a special individual creation...which in itself means that human life has a priceless value...but we are not 'pieces of God'
 

crossnote

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i took it poetically, after all all men are made in the image of God.
The message is, many are fleeing the onslaught of ISIS and other radical Islamists in Syria and Libya, nothing to get into doctrinal fighting over.
 
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Whilst my heart goes out to all who suffer, pieces of God ARE not DYING. God's creation is separate from Himself, and pieces of God CANNOT die. Peoples have died throughout the centuries in their millions, but no part of God has died.

The situation in the world is sad, caused by Muslim extremism, but it is an unanswerable problem. People are choosing to risk their lives for what they see as freedom, but it will be a freedom which will bring great problems to others. Europe could not cope with the masses of migrants wanting to enter without destroying itself. Perhaps the US could step in?.
I agree that these people need help but the UN should be involved. Europe cannot cope with this situation that does not seem to be getting any better. In the UK we have had thousands of immigrants from Europe and elsewhere besides
these refugees. We are a comparatively small country and I fear that there will be massive social unrest if nothing is done about the situation.
 

Channa

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Dear people,
Of course there had to be a misinterpret and a wrong composed sentence. I know that God can't die, but thanks for reminding. I hope you all get the point. Pieces of God. Ok that's not the way I should call it. Everyone agree with children of God?
And for all the people who don't know about the situation, please read this https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...mbol-yet-of-the-mediterranean-refugee-crisis/
Sorry for causing a fuss but after all, this was a prayer request.
 
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VioletReigns

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Father God, we come to You asking for mercy and deliverance for these desperate people trying to flee for safety. Be their Strong Tower, Lord God! Let them hear Your Voice in their wilderness and may they know it is You who is rescuing them from the enemy! We pray grace and peace and safety for them in Jesus' name!! Thank You Lord for hearing and answering us when we call to You!!
 
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atwhatcost

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Dear people,
Of course there had to be a misinterpret and a wrong composed sentence. I know that God can't die, but thanks for reminding. I hope you all get the point. Pieces of God. Ok that's not the way I should call it. Everyone agree with children of God?
And for all the people who don't know about the situation, please read this https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...mbol-yet-of-the-mediterranean-refugee-crisis/
Sorry for causing a fuss but after all, this was a prayer request.
First, and this is the minor part, nope. I don't agree everyone is a child of God either. BUT God's children are supposed to love and it seems to me, we ought to.

The UN is dealing with it? It's the UN. Their form of dealing with stuff is to take a vote to tsk-tsk someone. Nothing becomes of them. And, it's not their fault anyway, because they aren't getting the money to help. (Probably because everyone knows they just tsk-tsk people.)

BUT I AM American. I do know what we do as a nation when the chips are down. Katrina! 90% of one of our cities got flooded out one night after the levies broke. (New Orleans.) We, as a nation, absorbed all those people. New Orleans is in the middle of our southern border, and yet those people moved everywhere from an hour out of town to our east and west coasts, and right up the Mississippi. We absorbed them, until someone fixed the levies and rebuilt the homes. It's ten years later and those absorbed people mostly went home. But they were taken care of.

I get this makes Katrina look like a summer shower, but surely the entire world can absorb the refugees. It's only half the number of people that live in the sate of New Jersey. This is doable.

There was this Jewish guy in Philadelphia when Hitler rose to power who heard what the creep was doing to the Jews. While the London removed their children from the city during the Blitzkrieg, this gentleman worked with other people to organize bringing 50 Jewish kids to the States to live so they wouldn't be killed. He saved 50 kids. Why can't others offer the same thing for these refugees? Anyone who can afford that big, do so. Anyone who can't contributes to a fund to help others.

America has done this with Rwandans. We've done it for children soldiers out of Sudan. We've helped Haiti more than once. We are capable of helping some. Surely, the UK, Canada, the European union, Australia, New Zealand, and all the other first-world nations can help, as people, not as nations. Surely Christians can help. If we don't help, then why complain no one else is either?

Seems to me to break the tie on what's going on in the Middle East it really is up to us to help people to become strong enough to figure out what life is like outside of tyranny, so they can go back home to break the tyranny. Give them a reason to figure out what real love is and who the real God is.
 
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Luke 10:25-37 - The Parable of the Good Samaritan

25 On one occasion an expert in the law stood up to test Jesus. “Teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?”

26 “What is written in the Law?” he replied. “How do you read it?”

27 He answered, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’ and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’”

28 “You have answered correctly,” Jesus replied. “Do this and you will live.”

29 But he wanted to justify himself, so he asked Jesus, “And who is my neighbor?”

30 In reply Jesus said: “A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, when he was attacked by robbers. They stripped him of his clothes, beat him and went away, leaving him half dead.

31 A priest happened to be going down the same road, and when he saw the man, he passed by on the other side.

32 So too, a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side.

33 But a Samaritan, as he traveled, came where the man was; and when he saw him, he took pity on him. 34 He went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine. Then he put the man on his own donkey, brought him to an inn and took care of him.

35 The next day he took out two denarii and gave them to the innkeeper.
‘Look after him,’ he said, ‘and when I return, I will reimburse you for any extra expense you may have.’

36 “Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?”

37 The expert in the law replied, “The one who had mercy on him.”

Jesus told him, “Go and do likewise.”


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i understand the misunderstanding,
but that seems to be all it is.

i wish i could have ignorance of the evils of the world, but the knowledge of evil is preached throughout all places i go: in all earthly media.

with knowledge comes burden.

to the unbeliever, this burden requires a call to responsive physical action.
to the believer, this burden is to be cast upon the Father: requiring intercessory prayer.

the UN is a worldly affair I will not be involved in.
if God uses it to answer prayer, in His Sovereign Provision, then so be it:
but praise God, not UN. God is mighty to save, not UN.
 
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atwhatcost

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i understand the misunderstanding,
but that seems to be all it is.

i wish i could have ignorance of the evils of the world, but the knowledge of evil is preached throughout all places i go: in all earthly media.

with knowledge comes burden.

to the unbeliever, this burden requires a call to responsive physical action.
to the believer, this burden is to be cast upon the Father: requiring intercessory prayer.

the UN is a worldly affair I will not be involved in.
if God uses it to answer prayer, in His Sovereign Provision, then so be it:
but praise God, not UN. God is mighty to save, not UN.
I will not give money to organizations (or people) I do not trust, so I'd never give money to the UN. But I know another organization that is helping and I do trust -- The Salvation Army. (There's a map at the bottom of the page that shows who they're helping. It does include Syria.)