Are you a Prophet?

[Blain]

So in my three years in faith one thing I have run across often and also that is the most misused title within God's kingdom is a prophet. Many claim to be a prophet and claim to have had a divine revelation and almost always they are attacked or demanded to prove they are legit prophets because in this day and age false prophets and false teachers are abound everywhere. I also think many have the wrong idea of what a prophet does and what a prophet is, some think that a prophet is one who receives divine revelations via dreams visions or some other means and explains future events to come and warnings of mass destruction.

But I don't think this is what a prophet is, in my view a prophet is nothing more than a messenger, he or she hears God's message and they speak it to the people, they have an ear for God's voice. visions and divine revelations do not make one a prophet in my view, yes you may have the gift of prophecy but a prophet isn't just about prophecy they bear the the role of being God's voice to the ppl. in the Old testament when the jews were confused and needed direction they often times went to the prophet to hear what God would say to them. back then or at least as far as I have read not just anyone claimed to be a prophet but in this day and age many make this claim whether they are legit or not or whether they purposely misleading or not.

I don't know if this is true or if it is biblical or not but I have always seen a prophet very high ranked in God's kingdom which is why I get so upset when my friends call me the prophet to mess with me because firstly I am not a prophet secondly assuming I am correct a prophet is very high ranked in God's kingdom and so I do not enjoy being called that out of mockery. I have yet to meet one legit prophet but I do believe they exist still, after all I cannot say they don't exist anymore simply because I have not seen them yet however false prophets are very real and honestly I think a lot of them are simply confused, true there are some with dark intentions but I think many Think they are hearing God's voice when it is there own or even the enemies. our voice and the enemies voice is much easier to hear and can easily if we allow it be seen as God's voice.

I can't tell you how much I want to meet a real legit prophet but searching on the web for one does no good not to mention if I did find one I likely would not be able to speak with them.But being a prophet is not an easy job in fact it is one of the hardest because you will be attacked quite often and be called horrible things and ppl will speak lies of you and will try to do everything to bring you down and make sure you can't get back up. If anyone wants to be a prophet I think they might consider the cost

 

[Dan58]

If anyone wants to be a prophet I think they might consider the cost

Agreed... Also, I very much doubt that anyone just willy-nilly decides they want to be a prophet. That's God's domain, he calls certain people at certain times for a specific purpose. As God told Jeremiah; "Before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations" (Jeremiah 1:5). This would seem to pretty much eliminate the 'volunteer' approach to being a prophet, as it insinuates that God preordains whomever he chooses. . jmo

 

[jb]

So in my three years in faith one thing I have run across often and also that is the most misused title within God's kingdom is a prophet. Many claim to be a prophet and claim to have had a divine revelation and almost always they are attacked or demanded to prove they are legit prophets because in this day and age false prophets and false teachers are abound everywhere. I also think many have the wrong idea of what a prophet does and what a prophet is, some think that a prophet is one who receives divine revelations via dreams visions or some other means and explains future events to come and warnings of mass destruction.

But I don't think this is what a prophet is, in my view a prophet is nothing more than a messenger, he or she hears God's message and they speak it to the people, they have an ear for God's voice. visions and divine revelations do not make one a prophet in my view, yes you may have the gift of prophecy but a prophet isn't just about prophecy they bear the the role of being God's voice to the ppl. in the Old testament when the jews were confused and needed direction they often times went to the prophet to hear what God would say to them. back then or at least as far as I have read not just anyone claimed to be a prophet but in this day and age many make this claim whether they are legit or not or whether they purposely misleading or not.

I don't know if this is true or if it is biblical or not but I have always seen a prophet very high ranked in God's kingdom which is why I get so upset when my friends call me the prophet to mess with me because firstly I am not a prophet secondly assuming I am correct a prophet is very high ranked in God's kingdom and so I do not enjoy being called that out of mockery. I have yet to meet one legit prophet but I do believe they exist still, after all I cannot say they don't exist anymore simply because I have not seen them yet however false prophets are very real and honestly I think a lot of them are simply confused, true there are some with dark intentions but I think many Think they are hearing God's voice when it is there own or even the enemies. our voice and the enemies voice is much easier to hear and can easily if we allow it be seen as God's voice.

I can't tell you how much I want to meet a real legit prophet but searching on the web for one does no good not to mention if I did find one I likely would not be able to speak with them.But being a prophet is not an easy job in fact it is one of the hardest because you will be attacked quite often and be called horrible things and ppl will speak lies of you and will try to do everything to bring you down and make sure you can't get back up. If anyone wants to be a prophet I think they might consider the cost

You can find a bit of a study Here (section 3b) on the ministry gift of a prophet, and another few thoughts Here...

Yahweh Shalom

 

[phil112]

Are you a Prophet?

Nope, caucasian.

 

[oldthennew]

Nope,
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phil,

you have short-circuited your-self................

 

[weakness]

​It seems tome that Pail in his dialog about tongues and prophesy has some Good thoughts. He says that you shouldn't speak in tongues unless there is some to interperate, or some to make clear what is being said. He said he would rather speak many words with his understanding than a few in the meeting that can't be understood. I don't think tongues are a bunch of mumbo jumbo, In Joel it says in the last days my sons and daughters shall prophesy, yet in acts they speak in unknown languages to those of different backgrounds and speech, as a fulfillment of prophecy, each heard them in their own language. Scripture also says that when we don't know what to pray the Spirit makes intercession for us. Paul says tongues are a sign to them that believe not, not to those that believe Follow after Spiritual gift , but rather that you would prophesy.For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaks not unto men but unto God: For no man understands him, but in theSpirit he speaks mysteries.He that prophesieth speaks unto men for edification ,exhortation and comfort. he that speaks in an unknown tongue edifies himself. Tongues without interpretation is self edifying, tongues with interpretation is similar to prophesy, in that it is understandable.But Paul wishes we all spoke in tongues. Then I also think there is a difference between prophesying and the, whats sometimes called the office of a prophet, spoken of with an evangelist ,apostle, pastor teacher etc.as many of the Old testement prophets. I think sometimes that as the lord says in the OT not to pray for some of the stiff necked or those who God is dealing with least we be found praying against the lord.The main thing is that it is the Holy Spirit speaking through us and not our christian piety and falsehood. For the natural man receives not the things of the Spirit of God, and never can. Only through baptism into his death and walking in the newness of the indwelling Spirit can we serve our lord.

 

[passing_through]

Nope, caucasian.

And a back-woodsman as well?

 

[RussellJBenigno]

It must be prophet time. We started another thread also.
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/121509-why-prophets-need-each-other.html

 

[RussellJBenigno]

.... in my view a prophet is nothing more than a messenger, ....
I don't know if this is true or if it is biblical or not but I have always seen a prophet very high ranked in God's kingdom....

I'd think a little more than just.....Their right below the Apostle. Its way easier to be a false prophet because no one puts them to death today. They have given me false prophesy and then just shrugged when it didn't come true. The penalty for a false prophecy back then was death. Before I give a prophecy I seek and seek till I know it is true before I speak it. We also have a lot of false doctrines denying the Apostles and Prophets, so we have a mixed bag. Paul even had a hard time when he said,"I may not be an Apostle to others, but to you I am". True Apostles and Prophets don't boast about themselves. They just seek to glorify God, but they are more that just a messenger.
(Eph 4:11-13 [AKJV])
And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ:

 

[posthuman]

are you a tender of sycamore trees?

Then Amos answered and said to Amaziah, “I was no prophet, nor a prophet’s son, but I was a herdsman and a dresser of sycamore figs. But the LORD took me from following the flock, and the LORD said to me, ‘Go, prophesy to my people Israel.’ "
(Amos 7:14-15) ​

 

[RussellJBenigno]

Agreed... Also, I very much doubt that anyone just willy-nilly decides they want to be a prophet. That's God's domain, he calls certain people at certain times for a specific purpose. As God told Jeremiah; "Before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations" (Jeremiah 1:5). This would seem to pretty much eliminate the 'volunteer' approach to being a prophet, as it insinuates that God preordains whomever he chooses. . jmo

I can tell you the cost can be very high and it is not something you choose. You don't say,"When I grow up I want to be a prophet". Its the last thing on your mind. You just wake up one day and find out that what you are doing falls into a category you didn't plan on. It is a lonely life at some points and the lose of supposed friends, because you stick to the message unwavering. It has cost me, but I wouldn't change anything or do it different.

 

[convallaria]

So in my three years in faith one thing I have run across often and also that is the most misused title within God's kingdom is a prophet. Many claim to be a prophet and claim to have had a divine revelation and almost always they are attacked or demanded to prove they are legit prophets because in this day and age false prophets and false teachers are abound everywhere. I also think many have the wrong idea of what a prophet does and what a prophet is, some think that a prophet is one who receives divine revelations via dreams visions or some other means and explains future events to come and warnings of mass destruction.

But I don't think this is what a prophet is, in my view a prophet is nothing more than a messenger, he or she hears God's message and they speak it to the people, they have an ear for God's voice. visions and divine revelations do not make one a prophet in my view, yes you may have the gift of prophecy but a prophet isn't just about prophecy they bear the the role of being God's voice to the ppl. in the Old testament when the jews were confused and needed direction they often times went to the prophet to hear what God would say to them. back then or at least as far as I have read not just anyone claimed to be a prophet but in this day and age many make this claim whether they are legit or not or whether they purposely misleading or not.

I don't know if this is true or if it is biblical or not but I have always seen a prophet very high ranked in God's kingdom which is why I get so upset when my friends call me the prophet to mess with me because firstly I am not a prophet secondly assuming I am correct a prophet is very high ranked in God's kingdom and so I do not enjoy being called that out of mockery. I have yet to meet one legit prophet but I do believe they exist still, after all I cannot say they don't exist anymore simply because I have not seen them yet however false prophets are very real and honestly I think a lot of them are simply confused, true there are some with dark intentions but I think many Think they are hearing God's voice when it is there own or even the enemies. our voice and the enemies voice is much easier to hear and can easily if we allow it be seen as God's voice.

I can't tell you how much I want to meet a real legit prophet but searching on the web for one does no good not to mention if I did find one I likely would not be able to speak with them.But being a prophet is not an easy job in fact it is one of the hardest because you will be attacked quite often and be called horrible things and ppl will speak lies of you and will try to do everything to bring you down and make sure you can't get back up. If anyone wants to be a prophet I think they might consider the cost

Hi Blain,

I think your heart-searching is good regarding what a prophet is and what a prophet isn't. It shows that you know there are true prophets of God out there but that there also are false ones, we know. I think there is a wide area of discussion needed between the true and false prophet, because when God separates you for that role it is not something you choose yourself, and you may not recognize His voice when He first calls you. You may hear a few things on the wind as it were and something is alerting you inside that you need to heed it but then there are a lot of other voices telling you something else.

Then there is what we think a prophet must be, and what he is in reality. We may imagine a prophet lives in a separated and protected holy way with no human disasters or distractions. Truth is God has to take us through tribulations of all kinds before we can be trusted to trust Him for what He has planted in us.

Then there is all the seemingly incredible and unjustified hatred directed against us because we are different and because God has given us a way of speaking His truth, which will always offend those who do not want to hear it.

Then also when we finally realize the reason we are different is because God has His hand on us and has called us to this, there is a whole learning process of stepping out with it wisely. The potential to make mistakes is always there and keeps us grounded in the fact that this is not about us, but about the Lord, and about what is right, and about our obedience to speak what we hear from Him...and our fear of disobedience if we don't.

Joseph is a great study in the Bible as someone God had separated for such a purpose in His plan. While he was still young he received dreams and visions which infuriated his family, and they were so mad with him they sold him into slavery, claiming he was dead. A long time later and a steep learning curve with Joseph in extremely adverse conditions how to be the man God called him to be, it ends up with his rescue of his whole family from the famine that had swept the land. Check out that story.

Seeing that spiritually, there is a whole family of God out there who are labouring under spiritual famine, and God has chosen His emissaries to speak life to them prophetically in Jesus Christ so that they no longer hunger and thirst or labour under a delusion that God has forgotten them, even though they have been disobedient and shown Him disregard, and His servants.

If we are called, it is not all about us, but about communicating the heart of God to THEM.

God bless you Blain.

 

[convallaria]

I can tell you the cost can be very high and it is not something you choose. You don't say,"When I grow up I want to be a prophet". Its the last thing on your mind. You just wake up one day and find out that what you are doing falls into a category you didn't plan on. It is a lonely life at some points and the lose of supposed friends, because you stick to the message unwavering. It has cost me, but I wouldn't change anything or do it different.

Amen, exactly. Through the years the people I have loved the most have betrayed, lied about and abandoned me. Through one time when church elders ganged up on me because of what God had shown me to be true, I realized I was carrying a bomb that could blast a congregation in all directions if I released it unwisely. I felt I was literally down a dark hole with none to help except the Lord.

One day I figured the Lord was down that hole with me, wow. He was the One Who had gone to the ultimate lengths in order to identify with my struggle. I found that down that hole I only needed to breathe "help me Lord" and the scripture would be right there in front of me that I needed to hear, how I must proceed. I followed His instruction and the truth came out finally.

No one apologized: they hated me more! haha

That opened up a whole world of the value of suffering for righteousness sake, and that it was called the fellowship of HIS sufferings. This was not at all what I had been taught with the smiley hand-shakers on the door who told everybody that all their troubles were over since they became a Christian LOL.

Even so, I wouldn't change anything either Praise God, I would rather be down a hole with Jesus than up the top of any old man-made mountain: no contest.

 

[Blain]

I can tell you the cost can be very high and it is not something you choose. You don't say,"When I grow up I want to be a prophet". Its the last thing on your mind. You just wake up one day and find out that what you are doing falls into a category you didn't plan on. It is a lonely life at some points and the lose of supposed friends, because you stick to the message unwavering. It has cost me, but I wouldn't change anything or do it different.

So are you a prophet? I am not asking in judgment I am asking out of curiosity. You know I have been mislead by so many false prophets early in my faith when I didn't have the discernment and wisdom to be cautious of such ppl that they made it where I no longer could trust any person who claimed to be a prophet or gave a prophecy I no longer could even believe any end times revelation dream or vision given by other or given to me in a dream and vision. They had no idea the harm they were doing to ppl like me and even today they continue to do all this. in a desperate attempt to believe that not all prophets were false i found a site specifically for prophets and I went on there and asked if they could somehow prove to me they were legit prophets then as soon as I did I got banned.

We are to test all spirits but they got extremely offended because I simply needed them to somehow prove their position, was I supposed to blindly believe they are who they say they are? That is how I lost all hope and faith in God showing things to begin with. Say I were to ask you to prove you are a prophet assuming you say you are, how would you take that and how would you be able to show me you truly are a legit one? As I stated in the op I would love nothing more than meet an actual prophet of God not to confirm they are real because I chose to believe they are even with no evidence they really exist these days

 

[chrislink]

God always sends a prophet to talk to His people but people don't recognise him and treat him as they want. Jesus said" God's work it is to believe in the one he sent" and Christ is the word and the word comes to a prophet.How can you say you believe in God if you don't trust the one he sent or His prophet? Any comment?

 

[RussellJBenigno]

So are you a prophet? I am not asking in judgment I am asking out of curiosity. You know I have been mislead by so many false prophets early in my faith when I didn't have the discernment and wisdom to be cautious of such ppl that they made it where I no longer could trust any person who claimed to be a prophet or gave a prophecy I no longer could even believe any end times revelation dream or vision given by other or given to me in a dream and vision. They had no idea the harm they were doing to ppl like me and even today they continue to do all this. in a desperate attempt to believe that not all prophets were false i found a site specifically for prophets and I went on there and asked if they could somehow prove to me they were legit prophets then as soon as I did I got banned.

We are to test all spirits but they got extremely offended because I simply needed them to somehow prove their position, was I supposed to blindly believe they are who they say they are? That is how I lost all hope and faith in God showing things to begin with. Say I were to ask you to prove you are a prophet assuming you say you are, how would you take that and how would you be able to show me you truly are a legit one? As I stated in the op I would love nothing more than meet an actual prophet of God not to confirm they are real because I chose to believe they are even with no evidence they really exist these days

Yes I am! Your concerns are well noted. You are not the only one hurt by false prophets. I can appreciate where you are coming from. True prophets are not interested in a following. I had a church I was pastoring and I walked away from it because the people were not seeking maturity. If I wanted a following, I already had one and I left it behind. I'm not interested in telling people what to believe as many here do. I don't seek attention. You wouldn't even know I was a Pastor at the church I now help pastor. So seeking recognition is not my desire. My desire is to teach people "How to hear from God and not what to hear". What you hear is between you and God as far as I'm concerned. I tell people at my church not to walk out the the church and say,"Pastor Russ said...". I don't want them to be my witness, but God's witness when they hear and see from Him. More to follow, got to get to work.

 

[Willie-T]

Am I? Not that I know of.

 

[RussellJBenigno]

God always sends a prophet to talk to His people but people don't recognise him and treat him as they want. Jesus said" God's work it is to believe in the one he sent" and Christ is the word and the word comes to a prophet.How can you say you believe in God if you don't trust the one he sent or His prophet? Any comment?

Not all who say Lord, Lord are His. The spirit must be tested and I really don't care if people sincerely test me. I have witnessed those who have misused the office of prophet to their own enrichment. I myself am weary of those who proclaim they are prophetic and I am a prophet.

 

[RussellJBenigno]

Am I? Not that I know of.

Not everyone is as we know from scripture. The body of Christ has many members and your a good member to have.

 

[chrislink]

Not all who say Lord, Lord are His. The spirit must be tested and I really don't care if people sincerely test me. I have witnessed those who have misused the office of prophet to their own enrichment. I myself am weary of those who proclaim they are prophetic and I am a prophet.

You're right lots of people claim to be God's prophets but are not .You've also said right the spirit must be tested so as to be accepted as God's And I believe that the office of prophet comes from God nd is always vindicated by himself through miracles,signs,testimonies,honesty,truth and the power of the Word acting into people by the holy spirit nd these are always authentic I mean they are not subject of any imitations.In the bible,God always used prophets He said to Jeremiah I had made you a prophet of nations before you were born I chose you to speak for me to the nations and Peter said no one alone can understand any of the prophecies in the Scriptures.The prophets did not think these things up on their own,but they were guided by the Spirit of God.Notice "did not think these things up on their own" but "were guided by the Spirit of God" see it's not for us to say " I am this and that" but let God himself lead things in accordance with His perfect will Just think of what Paul said again " God doesn't take back the gifts he has given or forget about the people he's chosen"However,people who should use their gifts to honor God misuse them for their enrichment,That's TRUE but if God gives you a real commission he would keep his promise because He's God.Prophets of God lead people to Christ and not to a creed or anything of that kind. Good prophets are ill-treated because of their sincerity on the Word but the Lord God testifies them Himself through His word and by fruits of their ministries.So there's no need to claim.Indeed, God himself chooses.