The Seven Holy Spirits of God

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Revelation 5:6
And I beheld, and, lo,
in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts,
and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain,
having seven horns and seven eyes,


which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

There are Seven Holy Spirits of God.
 

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A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse; from his roots a Branch will bear fruit. The Spirit of the LORD will rest on him-- the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding, the Spirit of counsel and of might, the Spirit of the knowledge and fear of the LORD -- and he will delight in the fear of the LORD. He will not judge by what he sees with his eyes, or decide by what he hears with his ears; but with righteousness he will judge the needy, with justice he will give decisions for the poor of the earth. He will strike the earth with the rod of his mouth; with the breath of his lips he will slay the wicked. From Isaiah chapter 11.

Revelation 1:4 John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;

Revelation 3:1 And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.

Revelation 4:5 And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.

Revelation 5:6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

The Biblical understanding of the number seven represents perfection.
A seven fold Spirit could simply represent the perfect Holy Spirit of God.


 
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Revelation 5:6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.
Explain this to me. Was this a real lamb? Was it dead?
 

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Revelation 5:6
And I beheld, and, lo,
in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts,
and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain,
having seven horns and seven eyes,


which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

There are Seven Holy Spirits of God.
First of all, the text does not say "seven HOLY spirits of God." It says "seven spirits of God."
Secondly, this is not how the book represents the seven spirits of God.

"And from the seven spirits who are before His throne."
There is no justification for the capitalization of "spirits". This is not a description of the nature of God.

a. This statement cannot be understood apart from 4:5 which reads "And there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God;" The seven spirits which are the seven lamps of fire that burn before to throne are the seven churches to whom this revelation is sent (verse 20), "As for the mystery of the seven stars which you saw in My right hand, and the seven golden lampstands: the seven stars are the angels of the seven churches, and the seven lampstands are the seven churches."

b. Their position is "before" the throne.


* The significance of "before the throne" could be for the purpose of judgment, particularly since we will see this judgment of the fidelity of these seven churches weighed in the balances in chapters two and three.
* Since this is found in the body of the salutation, "before the throne" could also simply represent the position that the church holds as those who belong to God hence the expression "which are the seven spirits of God;" ('Which are' - ἃ - nominative neuter plural).
 
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First of all, the text does not say "seven HOLY spirits of God." It says "seven spirits of God."
plural).
Are you trying to establish the fact that they were unholy Spirits of God?

Yes or no?
 

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Are you trying to establish the fact that they were unholy Spirits of God?

Yes or no?
Of course not. All I am pointing out is that the text tells us in quite definitive language what the seven spirits of God are. "And there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven spirits of God;" This renders all other speculations about what the seven spirits of God are rather moot.
 

Magenta

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Explain this to me. Was this a real lamb? Was it dead?
The Lamb of God is Jesus Christ, slain as a sin sacrifice for the world.

John 1:29
"Behold the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world."

Revelation 13:8
"And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him (the beast), whose names are
not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world."

The 'book of Life' signifies God's record of those who will be regenerated (raised up to new life) in Christ Jesus.


1st Peter 1:18-20
"Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; but with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,"

Ephesians 1:3-7
"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

2nd Timothy 1:9

"Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,"

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What does the text say?
Right there it is...read it. Why ask me what you can read yourself?


Revelation 5:6
And I beheld, and, lo,
in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts,
and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain,
having seven horns and seven eyes,


which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

There are Seven Holy Spirits of God.
I do not believe you believe it word for word.
 

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Right there it is...read it. Why ask me what you can read yourself?




I do not believe you believe it word for word.
Like I said earlier, the word holy does not appear in that verse nor in any Greek text of which I am aware. The text is not talking about the HOLY Spirit. It is talking about the seven Churches.
 
Jun 30, 2015
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​How come you can not believe it as it is written word for word?
Is it because you lack the faith in God?

To believe He has seven Spirits that are Holy?
 
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Like I said earlier, the word holy does not appear in that verse nor in any Greek text of which I am aware. The text is not talking about the HOLY Spirit. It is talking about the seven Churches.
You do not have to tell us what you said we can read every word of it. Or are you going to interpret for us what you posted?
 

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​How come you can not believe it as it is written word for word?
Is it because you lack the faith in God?
Here is what the verse says. "Then I saw a Lamb that looked as if it had been slaughtered, but it was now standing between the throne and the four living beings and among the twenty-four elders. He had seven horns and seven eyes, which represent the seven Spirit of God that is sent out into every part of the earth." Why do you insist on adding a word which is not supplied by the text?
 
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Here is what the verse says. "Then I saw a Lamb that looked as if it had been slaughtered, but it was now standing between the throne and the four living beings and among the twenty-four elders. He had seven horns and seven eyes, which represent the seven Spirit of God that is sent out into every part of the earth." Why do you insist on adding a word which is not supplied by the text?
There are the added words. I did not put them in there...you did.
 

oldhermit

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There are the added words. I did not put them in there...you did.
That was a quote from the NLT which I personally do not like. Perhaps this quote from the KJV will suite you better. "And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth."
 
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Here is what the verse says. "Then I saw a Lamb that looked as if it had been slaughtered, but it was now standing between the throne and the four living beings and among the twenty-four elders. He had seven horns and seven eyes, which represent the seven Spirit of God that is sent out into every part of the earth." Why do you insist on adding a word which is not supplied by the text?
Revelation 5:6
And I beheld, and, lo,
in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts,
and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain,
having seven horns and seven eyes,


which represents the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

Is this the way it is written?
 

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Revelation 5:6
And I beheld, and, lo,
in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts,
and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain,
having seven horns and seven eyes,


which represents the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

Is this the way it is written?
Here is the last segment of that verse from the Byzantine Majority text. ἔχον κέρατα ἑπτὰ καὶ ὀφθαλμοὺς ἑπτά, ἅ εἰσιν τὰ ἑπτὰ πνεύματα τοῦ θεοῦ ἀποστελλόμενα εἰς πᾶσαν τὴν γῆν. Would you like me to translate it for you?
 
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​How come you can not believe it as it is written word for word?
Is it because you lack the faith in God?

To believe He has seven Spirits that are Holy?
Where are you going with this ? What is your point? Trick questions?