Doctrinal doo doo?

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Paul crouch said he was tired of Christians bringing up doctrinal doo doo to counter the heresies of TBN.

Benny Hinn said he wish he had a Holy Ghost machine gun to mow down all the ones that bring up the bible to expose his strange doctrines.

Most of us know about these guys and their doctrines of Devils and their absurd lifestyles including adultery and homosexuality, and free masonry which is luciferianism.

Its far worse than that. The subtlety of lesser leaven, less brash, less extreme, errors exist in the body of Christ and have so for hundreds of years.
But what makes it dangerous is the acceptance of errors even when the light of clear scripture is provided to correct them.

'This is the way we've always done it and we like it as it is' is the common mantra. I get the fact that change is hard and revelation is shocking when His word exposes our deeply held false paradigms.

Like the pastor's wife that said to me 'I don't care if tithing is not in the NT, you better pay up or you are going to be in trouble with God.'

Thats the attitude of many a saint I'm afraid ' I don't care what His word says, I like the way we are doing things'.

Thats dangerous especially when 'we know what to do but fail to do it'. David was the hottest believer in Israel. But he decided he would hall the ark his way......disaster hit! He just couldn't force himself to do it the way God commanded.

I beg you to please pray and seek God. Look up all the end time scriptures. There's a truck load and they're all not so good concerning the 'church'.

Ever, ever, ever, ever learning but still not able to obey the truth. Having a form of godliness but with no power of the Holy Spirit.
Being merchandised by hirelings 'and my people love it so'.

If you believe we are in the last days before His return then you have got to believe that the body of Christ is in sick shape.

Another sign is this. And it speaks to the thread. 'They will not endure sound doctrine'. Even when it is presented to them in no uncertain terms.
We are there. Rebellion is what this is called. Adam and Hawwa shed Gods command to follow their own heart which the bible says is 'desperately wicked'.

Again please seek God on this. Elvis sang a song 'I did it my way'. Well....where is he now?

Where is the 'church' now? The Sardis church had a name saying they were alive......the rest you know!

Life comes by not quenching the Holy Spirit. The quenching comes when we are disobedient to His commands.

Is the 'church' calling His word doctrinal doo doo? Scary! Repent and I say repent!
 
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I take issue about Elvis. He did a cover version of my way but the song is really remembered as a Sinatra hit. It was written by
Paul Anka. In any case both Elvis and Frank died the same as we all will. I don't think it was retribution for recording the song.
Paul Anka is still going strong as far as I know. No karaoke session would be complete without it! As for the rest well no one is perfect. We all have our failings if we are honest enough to admit it. If we were perfect we wouldn't need a saviour.
 
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1Cor.4:6. Do not think above what that is written.

Col. 2:18. Don't worship messengers.
 
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"Yet", sometimes I think, perhaps, you secretly attend The Landover Baptist Church.
 
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Yet, you seem to have problems with most churches, wht not go on out and start one of your own...that way you'll have plenty of detractors of your own :p
 
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Why are some so against refusing that false teaching is at a all time high in the churches now days, which is why we are told to clearly test the spirits ???

Instead of admitting the truth I see my fellow brothers and sisters in the faith just trying to play it off by saying things like, nobody is perfect.

We may not see eye to eye but Yet does have a point as I have seen it my self the bad teachings now days of teaching a twist of scripture, half of what is said, and changing the order around of when things are done in the faith. The other thing I have seen is people taking grace, faith, and salvation as all being the same thing. They are not the same thing as one leads to or puts us under the other !!!

The bible does show in the end times true faith in people will be less and less, as it shows many people will not endure sound doctrine. But when you bring that up many claim keeping sound doctrine has nothing to do with salvation through the Lord, that right there is already a lie if you have been taught that !!!
 
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Yet, you seem to have problems with most churches, wht not go on out and start one of your own...that way you'll have plenty of detractors of your own :p
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Not sure anyone would be qualified to attend YET's church, he may have a church of one. :p
 
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KennethC said:
Why are some so against refusing that false teaching is at a all time high in the churches now days, which is why we are told to clearly test the spirits ???

Instead of admitting the truth I see my fellow brothers and sisters in the faith just trying to play it off by saying things like, nobody is perfect.

We may not see eye to eye but Yet does have a point as I have seen it my self the bad teachings now days of teaching a twist of scripture, half of what is said, and changing the order around of when things are done in the faith. The other thing I have seen is people taking grace, faith, and salvation as all being the same thing. They are not the same thing as one leads to or puts us under the other !!!

The bible does show in the end times true faith in people will be less and less, as it shows many people will not endure sound doctrine. But when you bring that up many claim keeping sound doctrine has nothing to do with salvation through the Lord, that right there is already a lie if you have been taught that !!!
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There's a difference between constructive criticism where you jump in to help out and armchair criticism which criticizes but does nothing.
 
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There's a difference between constructive criticism where you jump in to help out and armchair criticism which criticizes but does nothing.
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The point I was trying to make was just because a person starts a post we should not come in and just jump on the person as completely being wrong. Unless of course their thread is about demeaning of belittling a person, then we should squash that because the Word of God says that is inappropriate behavior for Christians.

We can tell Yet for instance his stance does not work for all churches, and I am sure he knows this, or at least I hope he does.

But he is not off the mark to say most churches because I know of one major bad doctrine that has influenced a number of churches now days, but I am not going to get into that in this thread as it would just derail the thread. This doctrine in the 90's was fought off in the great "Wake Up" call, but it has now come back in different versions !!!
 
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He who throws the "doo-doo" must be the first to touch it.

Repent and get your heart right with God.

Might as well join Westboro Baptist Church if your are going to act like this.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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KennethC said:
The point I was trying to make was just because a person starts a post we should not come in and just jump on the person as completely being wrong. Unless of course their thread is about demeaning of belittling a person, then we should squash that because the Word of God says that is inappropriate behavior for Christians.

We can tell Yet for instance his stance does not work for all churches, and I am sure he knows this, or at least I hope he does.

But he is not off the mark to say most churches because I know of one major bad doctrine that has influenced a number of churches now days, but I am not going to get into that in this thread as it would just derail the thread. This doctrine in the 90's was fought off in the great "Wake Up" call, but it has now come back in different versions !!!
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It's been going on much longer than that. Christianity has been fighting against legalism since day one.
 
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KennethC said:
The point I was trying to make was just because a person starts a post we should not come in and just jump on the person as completely being wrong. Unless of course their thread is about demeaning of belittling a person, then we should squash that because the Word of God says that is inappropriate behavior for Christians.

We can tell Yet for instance his stance does not work for all churches, and I am sure he knows this, or at least I hope he does.

But he is not off the mark to say most churches because I know of one major bad doctrine that has influenced a number of churches now days, but I am not going to get into that in this thread as it would just derail the thread. This doctrine in the 90's was fought off in the great "Wake Up" call, but it has now come back in different versions !!!
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and my point is Yet has started many many posts attacking the Churches...so it's predictable and yes all churches are imperfect made up of saved sinners.
 
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and my point is Yet has started many many posts attacking the Churches...so it's predictable and yes all churches are imperfect made up of saved sinners.
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You did it now. Ken does not believe in save sinners. He just makes a boo boo every now and then.
 
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and my point is Yet has started many many posts attacking the Churches...so it's predictable and yes all churches are imperfect made up of saved sinners.
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I would humbly request that when you use the word church in the plural state as churches, please use the small case "c".

Because there is only one true Church (body of believers), not many, and pointing out the truth of bad teachings in the churches should not be frowned upon but should be looked into by all believers to see if there church is actually teaching the truth.

Maybe he goes about it the wrong way but it should lead people to go and actually test what they have been taught by the Holy Spirit's guidance and the Word of God.

It is hard to wake up the blind though as the scriptures say !!!
 
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I adore Bereans!
 
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FreeNChrist said:
It's been going on much longer than that. Christianity has been fighting against legalism since day one.
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The problem though also is what people consider legalism, as that line has gotten smeared now days.

The true fighting against legalism was against those who were trying to lead others back to following the Mosaic written ordinances. That is the true legalism that needs to be kept out of the churches.

However with that being said teaching and preaching that believers are to keep the Lord Jesus teachings and commands stated in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John is not legalism. As even though there is no written ordinances we are to focus on there is still a set of standards believers in Christ are to uphold.

Apostle Paul called out a number of people in his epistles for improper behavior in the faith, and it was not all the time just to going to law observance, most of them was for sinful behavior.

Even Jesus final command to believers was to observe/obey all that He commanded !!!
 
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FreeNChrist said:
It's been going on much longer than that. Christianity has been fighting against legalism since day one.
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the problem is modern day legalists are just as blind as the pharisee wer. They can't see their own legalism. and excuse it away as only trying to add law is legalism, and their own works of righteousness are not the same.

They forget, Cain tried to make God happy and God rejected his sacrifice (legalism) and he was so angry he killed his brother, who understood the true way to God (shed blood of an innocent)

the pharisee killed Christ because he rejected their legalism

The roman church killed thw true church because God rejected their legalism and they did not like to be confronted

Sadly. Many in even the protestant church follow some form of roman legalism. Yet it is legalism all the same.
 
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KennethC said:
The problem though also is what people consider legalism, as that line has gotten smeared now days.

The true fighting against legalism was against those who were trying to lead others back to following the Mosaic written ordinances. That is the true legalism that needs to be kept out of the churches.

However with that being said teaching and preaching that believers are to keep the Lord Jesus teachings and commands stated in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John is not legalism. As even though there is no written ordinances we are to focus on there is still a set of standards believers in Christ are to uphold.

Apostle Paul called out a number of people in his epistles for improper behavior in the faith, and it was not all the time just to going to law observance, most of them was for sinful behavior.

Even Jesus final command to believers was to observe/obey all that He commanded !!!
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Oh, I know well what legalism is, and I can spot a legalist quicker than they can say, "NT law has now replaced OT law".
 
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