I thought I would start this thread to see if it will have as much popularity as the anti-legalists want their thread to have by dominating the Bible discussion forum. It is obvious that they want to drive their anti-legalistic agenda home to members and guests alike. Either it will be dominated by the same rhetoric as the anti-legalistic thread by the anti-legalists, or it will live a very short life.
How to spot an anti legalist
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Matthew 12:33
Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit.
Luke 6:44
For every tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes.
Fruit=words and actions=works>>>>>a faith without good works is a dead faith.
Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit.
Luke 6:44
For every tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes.
Fruit=words and actions=works>>>>>a faith without good works is a dead faith.
this one plants, that one waters --
God causes to grow, God gives the increase
the one that plants and the one that waters are His servants also:
the Lord provides the seed, the Lord provides the water, the Lord gives the light!
everything is His, and every honor His alone
the fruit that is found on the branches is fed by the Vine!
God causes to grow, God gives the increase
the one that plants and the one that waters are His servants also:
the Lord provides the seed, the Lord provides the water, the Lord gives the light!
everything is His, and every honor His alone
the fruit that is found on the branches is fed by the Vine!
K
Those last three words that you have said is the issue, because nobody is saying the law is salvation.
This is the long tired false accusation hyper-grace crowd uses on those who emphasize on the teachings of the bible that show how a believer can and can not walk in the faith.
Half of all of Apostle Paul's epistles are dedicated to discerning believers from unbelievers and false teachers by how they walk in the faith. He spends at least 2 or more chapters in each one on stating how one can and can not walk in the faith, and by how one walks shows if they abide in Christ for salvation.
We do not teach works to get/earn salvation nor to maintain it, but we do teach that it is the proof of a true saving faith in the Lord. If one does not continue in that faith and is moved away from that hope of salvation in the gospel as Colossians 1:22-23 says is only how we are reconciled to God.
It is not our own works we are boasting about when we speak on works, but this is what we are boasting on:
(Colossians 1:29) Where unto I also labor, striving according to His working, which worketh in me mightily.
this one plants, that one waters --
God causes to grow, God gives the increase
the one that plants and the one that waters are His servants also:
the Lord provides the seed, the Lord provides the water, the Lord gives the light!
everything is His, and every honor His alone
the fruit that is found on the branches is fed by the Vine!
God causes to grow, God gives the increase
the one that plants and the one that waters are His servants also:
the Lord provides the seed, the Lord provides the water, the Lord gives the light!
everything is His, and every honor His alone
the fruit that is found on the branches is fed by the Vine!
K
[h=1]2 John 9-11[/h][SUP]9 [/SUP]Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him; [SUP]11 [/SUP]for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him; [SUP]11 [/SUP]for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.
E
How to spot an anti-legalist? You mean a Christian? Oh, that's easy. Someone who believes we are saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ.
K
The bible clearly teaches that those who continue to willfully/deliberately sin will not receive eternal life.
If your bible does not say this I do not know what version you are reading, because every version I have seen says this.
There is a big difference in struggling and willfully/deliberately sinning, as struggling means you are attempting to stop and the other does not.
Here is what Apostle Paul said about those who continue to live sinful lives:
(Ephesians 4:20) But ye have not so learned Christ;
If your bible does not say this I do not know what version you are reading, because every version I have seen says this.
There is a big difference in struggling and willfully/deliberately sinning, as struggling means you are attempting to stop and the other does not.
Here is what Apostle Paul said about those who continue to live sinful lives:
(Ephesians 4:20) But ye have not so learned Christ;